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Post by jjkotm on Sept 30, 2008 10:58:01 GMT -5
You're The Coolest on the JAPW board don't even try to deny it. You make posts there and then make almost exactly the same post here with the exact same opinions, **** on the same JAPW guys and praise the TNA talent. If I remember correctly you didn't like Low Ki as champion either because he was "too boring". What kind of wrestling fan are you? You have already admitted that the only JAPW guy you like that isn't or wasn't on TV was Kingston in plenty of arguments you got in. Omega/Reefer was done because of the lack of depth in the roster at the time with Hart going to Mexico and Ki being injured. Since then the main event scene has picked up. You aren't even a real indy wrestling fan. You go to shows because of TV names and bitch when there isn't a TV guy vs TV guy main event. If TNA pulled their talent you would probably never attend again. For the last time, I do not post on a JAPW message board, but if you want to believe I do, then go for it. I liked Low Ki as champion, just I felt like JAPW made him too invinceable. Kingston is the only non-TNA guy I like? Yeah right. I like Kingston, Hart, B-Boy, Maff, Demanto, and plenty others. Just because someone else out there likes the TNA guys as well doesn't mean I'm him  You seem to just get upset whenever someone bashes something in JAPW that you like. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 30, 2008 16:22:38 GMT -5
Sorry to see some people don't understand the hype that is Kenny Omega but you're in the minority here as the JAPW fans love him and the ROH are begging for him to come back. Sure there are a select few people that don't like him but they will in due time.
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 30, 2008 17:28:11 GMT -5
Sorry to see some people don't understand the hype that is Kenny Omega but you're in the minority here as the JAPW fans love him and the ROH are begging for him to come back. Sure there are a select few people that don't like him but they will in due time. Not trying to stir anything up, just clarifying. I do like Kenny Omega, just do not believe that he should be the JAPW Champion at this point in time. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 30, 2008 18:08:11 GMT -5
Sorry to see some people don't understand the hype that is Kenny Omega but you're in the minority here as the JAPW fans love him and the ROH are begging for him to come back. Sure there are a select few people that don't like him but they will in due time. Not trying to stir anything up, just clarifying. I do like Kenny Omega, just do not believe that he should be the JAPW Champion at this point in time. Well that is certainly your opinion but as someone who has followed JAPW, indy wrestling and all wrestling in general I say yes he should because JAPW has always been about giving a guy the title that needs it and then they blow up and either enter TNA, ROH or just become big on the indy scene in general. The only guy that don't fit this is Rhino but JAPW needed a TV name as champ at the time and Rhino fit the bill because he came fresh of his WWE run and showed he still had it. Rhino has since though become very boring to watch but with that said Dan Maff, Jay Lethal, Teddy Hart, Low Ki & Kenny Omega all needed the title when they got it. I know you haven't been following JAPW before 2006 but the title has always been given to the guy that needs it most at the time. Maff got the title because guys like Homicide & Low Ki were busy in ROH and Japan. JAPW put the ball on Maff and for awhile no one believed in him as champion once his title reign picked up, unfortunately he was black balled from wrestling. Homicide got the title but that was only so Lethal would have a heel to chase after the title. Lethal won the title and once again people said he wasn't a main eventer but then he started working guys like Steve Corino, Charlie Haas, & Rhino and within a few months he was in TNA. Rhino got the title next as I mentioned because he was a TV name who wanted to show he still had it after leaving the WWE. I don't think many doubted him as champion because he was a TV name but some didn't like his work. Next Teddy Hart got the title and right after being fired he was on his way to the WWE. Despite him being fired he was still set to go on to better things. After that Ki got the title because JAPW needed a guy to bring prestige back to the title and Ki needed it to show he was still a top guy on the indy scene. Omega beat Ki for the title and right after that happened he went from someone no one talked about to everyone hearing about him. He's recently got back from DDT where he had an excellent match with Kota Ibushi that if it happened in ROH everyone would be creaming themselves over. He also got a shot in ROH during the summer and Gabe has mentioned Omega would be back. As I said it's been proven that JAPW has given more guys that people said couldn't carry the ball a shot and once they do everyone else picks them up and they start blowing up. You could say Omega can't carry the company but he can carry the company better than I think guys like Joey Ryan, Human Tornado & Adam Pearce can carry PWG and better than Chuck Taylor could carry IWA-MS and also better than Drake Younger, Ruckus or Nick Gage could carry CZW. |
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 30, 2008 19:49:12 GMT -5
Joey Ryan and Human Tornado aren't even compareable to Kenny Omega.. They are both LIGHT YEARS ahead of what he could ever even hope to be.. National TV deal mean anything to you?
It's an even stupider comparison, considering Joey owns part of PWG..
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 30, 2008 20:01:42 GMT -5
Joey Ryan and Human Tornado aren't even compareable to Kenny Omega.. They are both LIGHT YEARS ahead of what he could ever even hope to be.. National TV deal mean anything to you? It's an even stupider comparison, considering Joey owns part of PWG.. They were on WSX that doesn't mean shit. Most people don't even remember them. Tornado and Joey Ryan aren't main event material and Joey Ryan hasn't got a shot in ROH nor has he been to Japan like Omega has. Joey Ryan sucks dick. Human Tornado, great wrestler but not a main eventer. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 30, 2008 20:15:01 GMT -5
If you can't see the awesomeness that is Kenny Omega I feel sorry for you. Maybe if he did death match wrestling he would be so cool!
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 30, 2008 20:35:20 GMT -5
I'm done with this.. It's obvious that you are the blindest JAPW fan ever. If anyone says anything even remotely negative about JAPW, you take it as a personal insult towards you, in which you must return it with an equal personal jab. I'll watch Kaiju Big Battel before I watch JAPW
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Post by Blade on Sept 30, 2008 20:37:01 GMT -5
I'm done with this.. It's obvious that you are the blindest JAPW fan ever. If anyone says anything even remotely negative about JAPW, you take it as a personal insult towards you, in which you must return it with an equal personal jab. I'll watch Kaiju Big Battel before I watch JAPW Just to be fair, your the same way with IWA-MS.  JAPW Ruff Cut EP A-1 |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 30, 2008 21:19:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah, because you don't throw a huge piss fit and start cursing people off when they say anything negative about IWA-MS. Go watch your death matches and Ian Rotten who was cool back in 1994.
I should seriously just stop posting here. It is seriously the worst board to discuss indy wrestling. It's no wonder that before a week ago I hadn't posted about anything on this board in awhile.
You could call me bias toward JAPW but you're obviously biased toward anything IWA-MS and JSWO is bias toward anything ROH.
Say what you want about JAPW but more of their guys have done stuff in their career then 95% of the IWA-MS guys will ever do.
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Post by jjkotm on Oct 1, 2008 0:48:39 GMT -5
Joey Ryan and Human Tornado aren't even compareable to Kenny Omega.. They are both LIGHT YEARS ahead of what he could ever even hope to be.. National TV deal mean anything to you? It's an even stupider comparison, considering Joey owns part of PWG.. I don't know much about Joey Ryan, but Human Tornado is not light years anything ahead of Kenny Omega. The only thing Tornado has above Omega is the comedy. Other than that, I'd take Omega over Tornado for anything else any day of the week. |
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Post by Blade on Oct 1, 2008 1:23:22 GMT -5
Joey Ryan and Human Tornado aren't even compareable to Kenny Omega.. They are both LIGHT YEARS ahead of what he could ever even hope to be.. National TV deal mean anything to you? It's an even stupider comparison, considering Joey owns part of PWG.. National TV doesn't mean shit. I mean Mark Henry is on National TV. Teddy Hart was on WSX but he probably sucks right? You really lost your own argument here. |
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Post by chriswf on Oct 1, 2008 7:33:14 GMT -5
Human Tornado is easily a main eventer. His PWG feud with Chris Hero the last year has been phenomenal. Also, saying Joey Ryan blows is ridiculous too. But whatever. Omega still has a way to come, but I haven't seen anything from him outside of spot fests yet.
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Post by chriswf on Oct 1, 2008 7:50:03 GMT -5
As much as JAPWbotting is annoying, theres absoloutely no way anything IWA-MS can really be defended anymore. It's the epitome of garbage.
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Post by bigeazy on Oct 1, 2008 8:49:18 GMT -5
If some of you could put away your personal alligiences toward wrestling companies and take a step back once in a while it might do you some good outside of silly message boards.
Kenny Omega's got a lot of potential, but to say he's ready to be a main event guy in the indies is a bit ridiculous. He's still very young, and has a lot to learn. No offense to Jersey All Pro, but main eventing there is like being a big fish in a small pond. It's great and all but really who else could they put out there that's different and can actually wrestle a match while being taken seriously?
I'm not a total Omega mark yet, but he's got room to grow and that's all you can ask for in a young pro wrestler.
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Post by chriswf on Oct 1, 2008 9:10:39 GMT -5
Well said.
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Post by WCWA Online on Oct 1, 2008 11:53:51 GMT -5
Say what you want about JAPW but more of their guys have done stuff in their career then 95% of the IWA-MS guys will ever do. Chris Hero, CM Punk, Colt Cabana, BJ Whitmer, Jimmy Jacobs, & Alex Shelley say hi. I don't even know why you're randomly bashing IWA Mid South. It's you taking something said about a company (that you have no part of) and trying to turn it into something personal. Why didn't you bash CHIKARA instead? I've bought just as many CHIKARA DVDs this year as I have IWA. Probably more, since I'm buying old CHIKARA and just the new IWA. Your arguments are more tired and old than any "omgz save iwa, buy dvds" shill could ever be.. I told a friend of mine when I first posted here, that this thread would be three pages and locked by Friday. Typical JAPW threads.. Same shit, different show.. Maybe you should stop posting here, because you take this crapWAY too seriously.. It's independant wrestling.. on a wrestling figure toy board.. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 1, 2008 12:42:39 GMT -5
And yet other than Punk & Shelley they haven't been as successful as Homicide, Low Ki, Charlie Haas & Jay Lethal.
I'm proving a point, you say I love anything JAPW which is laughable because if you took 5 minutes out of your life and went to their board and read my posts you would see that isn't true but whatever. Every time someone mentions something bad about IWA-MS you defend it and even have cursed people off a few times. Look at the talent they currently have there if you can even call them that. IWA-MS was once a good promotion but it's garbage now. Most of their "dream matches" they pulled off in 2006 & 2007 didn't even have a storyline it was just "this would be a good match lets book it".
Why am I not bashing Chikara? Because I like Chikara. They always have fun shows and Quack is an excellent booker. There wrestling isn't amazing by any means and a lot of their guys are young, some still green but there shows are fun and for $15 you can't beat it. I plan to attend some Chikara shows in the future because I like their product so I have no reason to bash it. I don't see you throw a piss fit when people bash Chikara either but that might be because no one on here really knocks Chikara because there isn't much to knock.
You're right, once this post thread is finished I'm not gonna post about indy wrestling here.
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Post by WCWA Online on Oct 1, 2008 13:45:17 GMT -5
"Other than the guy that just lost the WWE World Heavyweight title and one of TNA's biggest stars, that this board is currently throwing a fit about just one post down about being replaced by Homicide, all these lower mid carder TV guys are more successful"
Do you even realize how ridicious that is? WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION. For most of the summer. Money in the Bank winner before that.
Ignoring those two.. How do you explain Matt Sydal? Brad Bradley? Mickie Knuckles, who worked almost EXCLUSIVELY for IWA Mid South and got a TNA deal..
You're a knuckle head.. You're still missing the point.. someone said something bad about JAPW, and you try to turn it into a fight, because everything JAPW is perfect and golden.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 1, 2008 14:15:11 GMT -5
LOL, everything in JAPW is perfect or golden, OK. Take 5 minutes out of your time go to JAPW.net click on their message board and read my posts. You will see that is not the case but whatever. I defend JAPW here because the hate is ridiculous and clearly bias.
Also Alex Shelley being one of TNA's biggest stars is pretty laughable. He hasn't even held TNA gold like Homicide, Lethal & Low Ki has. Haas might be a lower card guy now but he's held tag team gold. Punk is great but it was because of ROH he got his deal not IWA-MS.
Whatever, I'm done with this ****. Showstopper lock this crap up it's going nowhere. I'm done posting on this part of the board.
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