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Post by Kliquid on Oct 22, 2008 23:52:38 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva
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Post by johnnymalloy on Oct 23, 2008 0:56:22 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva
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Post by Sandy on Oct 23, 2008 1:02:00 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 23, 2008 13:26:00 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva
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Post by BIGticket5 on Oct 25, 2008 2:54:30 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva - Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck - Alves Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture - Lesnar Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson - Florian Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans - Evans Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog - Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva - Jackson Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson - Franklin Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua - Shogun George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn - St.Pierre Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones - Bonnar Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva - Machida
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Post by CBT on Oct 25, 2008 11:39:45 GMT -5
Patrick Cote vs Anderson Silva ---- Silva Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck ---- Koscheck Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture ---- Lesnar Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson ---- Stevenson Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans ---- Forrest Frank Mir vs Antonio Nog ---- Nog Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva ---- Rampage, unless by split decision. Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson ---- Henderson Mark Coleman vs Mauricio Shogun Rua ---- Shogun George St.Pierre vs BJ Penn ---- Penn, just to piss off Dana. Stephan Bonnar vs Jon Jones ---- Jones, only because I hate Bonnar. Lyota Machida vs Thiago Silva ---- Machida
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Post by PdW2kX on Oct 25, 2008 16:11:33 GMT -5
Anderson Silva Thiago Alves Brock Lesnar Joe Stevenson Forrest Griffin Frank Mir Wanderlei Silva Rich Franklin Mauricio Shogun Rua George St.Pierre Jon Jones Lyota Machida
Are my picks.
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Oct 30, 2008 3:21:04 GMT -5
I want Lesnar to win, so badly, and I believe he has basically every advantage besides experience, but I have this nagging feeling that says Couture is taking it, whether he gets lucky, Brock screws up, or Randy just shocks the ell out of everyone.
Randy Couture
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 3, 2008 11:09:53 GMT -5
I want Lesnar to win, so badly, and I believe he has basically every advantage besides experience, but I have this nagging feeling that says Couture is taking it, whether he gets lucky, Brock screws up, or Randy just shocks the ell out of everyone. Randy Couture I don't think Randy Couture beating a guy in his 4th MMA fight would be "shocking."
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 3, 2008 20:53:40 GMT -5
I want Lesnar to win, so badly, and I believe he has basically every advantage besides experience, but I have this nagging feeling that says Couture is taking it, whether he gets lucky, Brock screws up, or Randy just shocks the ell out of everyone. Randy Couture Randy also has the advantage that Greco is better suited to adapting to MMA than freestyle, he has the advantage that he has actually adapted his style over the years to MMA wheras Lesnar who looked great against Heath basically wrestled him for 15 minutes. He'll need a lot more than that. Randy might not be a submissions wizard ala Mir, however he knows a damn sight more that Brock does from his years training. Randy actually has some boxing experience, Lesnar has no stand up experience apart from the big punch on Heath which was a push rather than a hard punch & the "flying" knee that actually missed. Randy's going to outstrike him from the outside, tie him up & pound him using Greco wrestling & then finish him off. I'm shocked at some peoples reactions to this fight, for me if Brock does win I'd call that a huge shock. In MMA having big muscles doesn't make you a winner. Randy is taking brock out in the deep waters of a 5 round fights & is going to drown him.
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Post by Sandy on Nov 3, 2008 22:11:35 GMT -5
I'm a big Randy Couture fan. But I just can't see him taking this one. Captain America will not overcome another giant.
Don't get me wrong, Couture is amazing and it will still be a HUGE upset if Lesnar wins. But I just see a lot of people being shocked and the talks of a fight with Fedor being completely derailed.
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 3, 2008 22:27:33 GMT -5
I want Lesnar to win, so badly, and I believe he has basically every advantage besides experience, but I have this nagging feeling that says Couture is taking it, whether he gets lucky, Brock screws up, or Randy just shocks the ell out of everyone. Randy Couture Randy also has the advantage that Greco is better suited to adapting to MMA than freestyle, he has the advantage that he has actually adapted his style over the years to MMA wheras Lesnar who looked great against Heath basically wrestled him for 15 minutes. He'll need a lot more than that. Randy might not be a submissions wizard ala Mir, however he knows a damn sight more that Brock does from his years training. Randy actually has some boxing experience, Lesnar has no stand up experience apart from the big punch on Heath which was a push rather than a hard punch & the "flying" knee that actually missed. Randy's going to outstrike him from the outside, tie him up & pound him using Greco wrestling & then finish him off. I'm shocked at some peoples reactions to this fight, for me if Brock does win I'd call that a huge shock. In MMA having big muscles doesn't make you a winner. Randy is taking brock out in the deep waters of a 5 round fights & is going to drown him. I highly doubt Brock will get completly dominated. I know that Couture is a great wrestler but so is Brock and he has massive size over him so if he does not up on the ground then there aint no way he is keeping Brock down. But Brock has age, size, speed, and wrestling in his bag and even has KO power. He would have got TKO on Mir if he was not so stupid but thats a rookie mistake. Couture is getting old and I know he has a history of upsetting people but I dont know how much longer he can do it. Certantly not forever. Im not saying Brock is going to win. Im just saying you saying that Brock will get completly dominated is wrong. He may get outsmarted but no way does couture dominate him keeping himm down the whole fight. No way. It will be a great fight to see and has potential to go all 5 rounds..
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 4, 2008 6:32:12 GMT -5
But Brock has age, size, speed, and wrestling in his bag and even has KO power. He would have got TKO on Mir if he was not so stupid but thats a rookie mistake. .. What KO power exactly??? He certainly didn't KO Mir, he landed a few shots so let's not get carried away cause Mir was so rocked that he locked on a submission seconds later. He landed a lot of shots on Herring from the top position & didn't come close to stopping him. Ys I'll admit he dominated Heath but didn't see him coming close to stopping him with shots from the top. Apart from that he landed the pushing punch at the start & missed a high knee. Now I'm not saying he's not a quality wrestler, or that he has great size, strength & speed for a fighter that size. I just feel the UFC is rushing him too quickly due to his name value & the amount they are paying him. If he'd have been built up slower & got the experience he needs I think he'll be a feaking animal. I just think in a complex sport like this he's going to be seriously disadvanted not having the experience & a few years extra training when going against the upper echelon of the division. People have ben writing off Randy for years. He wasn't going to beat Belfort, Randleman, Rizzo, Chuck, Tito, Sylvia or Gonzaga and yet he got the wins.
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 4, 2008 7:26:33 GMT -5
You cant be telling me that how hard Brock can hit you dont think he can KO someone. He straight up told everyone after his match with Herring his gameplan was to fight a 3 rd fight. I understand that Randy has gotten all of those upsets and what not. But its got to stop at some point. I agree. Brock has gotten a push too fast and gotten his shot given too him too fast. But thats just the way things go when they can make money off someone. Im not saying Brock is going to win. I am just saying that I know he will not get "Dominated"
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 4, 2008 8:07:08 GMT -5
You cant be telling me that how hard Brock can hit you dont think he can KO someone. He straight up told everyone after his match with Herring his gameplan was to fight a 3 rd fight. I understand that Randy has gotten all of those upsets and what not. But its got to stop at some point. I agree. Brock has gotten a push too fast and gotten his shot given too him too fast. But thats just the way things go when they can make money off someone. Im not saying Brock is going to win. I am just saying that I know he will not get "Dominated" He COULD have KO power, but my point is that hasn't been proven yet. Big muscles does not equal KO power, otherwise Bob Sapp would be the king of MMA. I'll accept that Brock COULD win, but most people here seem to think it's a certainity, wheras for me if Brock wins I'd call it a shock up there with Serrs koing GSP or Gonzaga Crocoping Crocop. As for the push too quickly whilst I don't agree with it if I was Dana I'd do the exact same thing, I just feel in the long run it's going to hurt Brock's MMA career
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Post by DWright on Nov 4, 2008 13:49:06 GMT -5
You cant be telling me that how hard Brock can hit you dont think he can KO someone. He straight up told everyone after his match with Herring his gameplan was to fight a 3 rd fight. I understand that Randy has gotten all of those upsets and what not. But its got to stop at some point. I agree. Brock has gotten a push too fast and gotten his shot given too him too fast. But thats just the way things go when they can make money off someone. Im not saying Brock is going to win. I am just saying that I know he will not get "Dominated" He COULD have KO power, but my point is that hasn't been proven yet. Big muscles does not equal KO power, otherwise Bob Sapp would be the king of MMA. I'll accept that Brock COULD win, but most people here seem to think it's a certainity, wheras for me if Brock wins I'd call it a shock up there with Serrs koing GSP or Gonzaga Crocoping Crocop. As for the push too quickly whilst I don't agree with it if I was Dana I'd do the exact same thing, I just feel in the long run it's going to hurt Brock's MMA career ...the guy broke Heath Hearrings orbital bone with one punch, sending him backwards in a complete somersault. I'm pretty he hits hard.
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 4, 2008 16:15:04 GMT -5
this moogie guy does not make much sense to me. Brock obviously has KO power.
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 4, 2008 17:06:37 GMT -5
this moogie guy does not make much sense to me. Brock obviously has KO power. No he has Power that does not equal KO power at all. My point is you are saying he has KO power & yet he hasn't actually knocked anyone out, well apart from himself after that botched shooting star at WM!
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 4, 2008 17:31:16 GMT -5
But you cant tell me that just because it has not happened he can not KO someone accounting on how hard he hits. He Broke a guys face for christ sakes. WITH ONE PUNCH!
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 4, 2008 18:04:22 GMT -5
But you cant tell me that just because it has not happened he can not KO someone accounting on how hard he hits. He Broke a guys face for christ sakes. WITH ONE PUNCH! Yeah he caused damage to Herring which takes power but KOing someone is a different thing No matter what you say the fact is he hit Herring repeatedly & wasn't able to stop him. Obviously he COULD KO someone but that applies to any MMA fighter but that doesn't make them all KO specialist. Just cause Brock is strong & muscular does not apply to KO power
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