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Post by man on Nov 6, 2008 14:08:47 GMT -5
You are wrong and I will explain to you why. In 1984 Hogan was already a big star. He was a headline star in the AWA and he was well known in the media after the Rocky III movie. The 1984 Hulk Hogan was already more mainstream than Cena is today. Rocky III was HUGE and Hogan became the face of Pro-Wrestling because of it.
The second thing to remember is that headlining a Wrestlemania in the 80's meant something. Today, it really doesn't. Hogan's matches, even though the technical quality was iffy at best, are remembered even today. Cena's are not.
To compare the two on pure age is just stupid. Cena walked into an established market that was pumped into the media seveal times a week. Hogan walked into... well... we all know the past. Finally, there were no "mixed reactions" to Hogan in the 80's. Cena ALWAYS has them. Hogan was not only the face of wrestling in the 80's he WAS wrestling. People went to see shows to see HIM. People don't line up to see Cena.
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Post by The-Rock on Nov 6, 2008 14:24:31 GMT -5
The only person that could be the kind of 'superstar' Hulk Hogan was, is John Cena. IMO, the only person that could be the kind of 'superstar' The Rock was, is Randy Orton. Yes, although Batista is at the level too I think.
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Post by bobvandam on Nov 6, 2008 14:25:35 GMT -5
The only person that could be the kind of 'superstar' Hulk Hogan was, is John Cena. IMO, the only person that could be the kind of 'superstar' The Rock was, is Randy Orton. LOL? The rock was entertaining. Randy orton is boring and is being shoved down our throat. Please not even close.
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Post by bobvandam on Nov 6, 2008 14:27:06 GMT -5
We don't need another Hulk Hogan, the first one was bad enough. Also Hulk Hogan never got booed out of the building when he was a face unlike John Cena, at least Hogan was liked by everybody (except me). I hate both of them, but I gotta say Hulk Hogan > garbage > Cena. I would also like to add that wrestlers need to make a name for themselves. I hate it when people say who's going to be the next so-and-so, or so-and-so is going to be the next so-and-so. I really hate that with a passion. You never seen WCW? hogan was getting booed as a baby face. people were sick of him. Than they turned him into a heel. nWo.
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Post by HardyHeft on Nov 6, 2008 14:27:41 GMT -5
Cena
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Post by Get A Rhythm™ on Nov 6, 2008 14:29:24 GMT -5
John Cena is greater than Hulk Hogan.
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Post by HardyHeft on Nov 6, 2008 14:31:45 GMT -5
You are wrong and I will explain to you why. In 1984 Hogan was already a big star. He was a headline star in the AWA and he was well known in the media after the Rocky III movie. The 1984 Hulk Hogan was already more mainstream than Cena is today. Rocky III was HUGE and Hogan became the face of Pro-Wrestling because of it. The second thing to remember is that headlining a Wrestlemania in the 80's meant something. Today, it really doesn't. Hogan's matches, even though the technical quality was iffy at best, are remembered even today. Cena's are not. To compare the two on pure age is just stupid. Cena walked into an established market that was pumped into the media seveal times a week. Hogan walked into... well... we all know the past. Finally, there were no "mixed reactions" to Hogan in the 80's. Cena ALWAYS has them. Hogan was not only the face of wrestling in the 80's he WAS wrestling. People went to see shows to see HIM. People don't line up to see Cena. Your kidding right? Please tell me your kidding. So what if he gets a mixed reaction at least people are paying to either Boo him or cheer him. He gets seats filled. I say in some 20 years he will be as big if not bigger than Hogan.
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Post by Chip on Nov 6, 2008 14:32:35 GMT -5
Hands down John Cena is THE biggest star in the WWE today. If the internet was around when Hogan was killing everyone with legdrops the IWC would hate him too
However no one, will or reach the status that The Undertaker & Shawn Michaels have in the present day WWE. Both of them are two of the most recognizable faces in wrestling HISTORY, and considering HBK has been with the company for 20 years and Undertaker for 18...no one can touch that as far as active superstars
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Post by bobvandam on Nov 6, 2008 14:37:29 GMT -5
Hands down John Cena is THE biggest star in the WWE today. If the internet was around when Hogan was killing everyone with legdrops the IWC would hate him too However no one, will or reach the status that The Undertaker & Shawn Michaels have in the present day WWE. Both of them are two of the most recognizable faces in wrestling HISTORY, and considering HBK has been with the company for 20 years and Undertaker for 18...no one can touch that as far as active superstars No one can even reach Triple H's status. And he was being pushed down our throat worse than randy orton. However triple h is actually entertaining.
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Post by Dyamez on Nov 6, 2008 14:37:57 GMT -5
I'm a fan of John Cena and he is most defintely the biggest wrestler in the world today, but on the same level as Hulk Hogan? I really don't think so. Honestly, Cena is on a higher level than Hogan...if you take into consideration where Hogan was when he was Cena's age. John Cena is 31 years old. Hogan was 31 in 1984. Hogan won his FIRST world title in 1984 (Cena has already held it three times). Hulkimania did not really take off until a little after that. Wrestlemania did not even come around until Hogan was 32 years old. John Cena has already headlined two Wrestlemanias before the age Hogan got to his first. Hogan walked away when he was 54 years old. That gives Cena 23 more years to accomplish everything Hogan did (and he does not need all 23). John Cena > Hulk Hogan I think this is a bad analogy. did it take hogan longer (since he started in the E') than Cena to be the champ?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 6, 2008 16:13:34 GMT -5
We don't need another Hulk Hogan, the first one was bad enough. Also Hulk Hogan never got booed out of the building when he was a face unlike John Cena, at least Hogan was liked by everybody (except me). I hate both of them, but I gotta say Hulk Hogan > garbage > Cena. I would also like to add that wrestlers need to make a name for themselves. I hate it when people say who's going to be the next so-and-so, or so-and-so is going to be the next so-and-so. I really hate that with a passion. You never seen WCW? hogan was getting booed as a baby face. people were sick of him. Than they turned him into a heel. nWo. Actually I never did watch WCW, so Hogan got booed even as a face? That's actually pretty funny, but still he never got booed as a face while he was in his prime anyway and Hulkamania was Runnin Wild, whereas John Cena is getting booed in his prime.
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Post by Fury on Nov 6, 2008 16:17:47 GMT -5
People have got to stop hanging onto the past and let people build their own legacy's.
John Cena is as close to a mainstream star that the WWE can get today, he is undoubtedly the biggest superstar of this day and age and will definitely reach a legendary status one day, I doubt it'd ever be as big as Hogan's but we don't know right now. Both will attain legendary status as Wrestlers.
And for those saying Hogan never got booed, that is a lie, there were multiple times that the crowd turned on Hogan (Summerslam 89 for one) it's just everyones now and smark and trying to be cool by hating, they didn't have that in the 80's.
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Post by hbk007 on Nov 6, 2008 16:46:02 GMT -5
Saying Cena headlined more 'Mania's at a younger age isn't saying anything since Wrestlemania was not even around when Hogan started. Wrestlemania was built around Hogan and Piper, and everyone wanted to see them go at it. In Cena's main events, his match was not even the most anticipated. Some people didn't even care about his matches even though he was main event.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Nov 6, 2008 17:06:04 GMT -5
Cena will be the next cena not hogan or rock. Cena has a different kind of swagger to him. 20 years down the road cena prob is done and when we all look back and talk about wwe its gonna be about hey remember when cena was on raw and hogan and rock and what not. Honestly cena is the top dog like him or not. But i wouldnt call him the next hogan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2008 17:14:40 GMT -5
There will never be another Hogan. His name and probably Andre The Giant's is know worldwide more than any other wrestler. You can ask a person who has never watched wrestling who Hulk Hogan is and they'll know who he is. John Cena is WWE biggest star today but he'll have his own legacy.
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Post by stevereno159 on Nov 6, 2008 21:37:11 GMT -5
lmao - cena should have homie-maniacs
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 6, 2008 22:51:02 GMT -5
If anyone in WWE is gonna be the next Hogan, its gonna be Cena. Pack an arena full of kids and let Cena come out and listen the the place erupt Plus, Cena appeals to a demo that the Hulkster never did...the ladies.
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Nov 6, 2008 23:03:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately.
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Post by layton on Nov 7, 2008 8:22:23 GMT -5
Honestly, Cena is on a higher level than Hogan...if you take into consideration where Hogan was when he was Cena's age. John Cena is 31 years old. Hogan was 31 in 1984. Hogan won his FIRST world title in 1984 (Cena has already held it three times). Hulkimania did not really take off until a little after that. Wrestlemania did not even come around until Hogan was 32 years old. John Cena has already headlined two Wrestlemanias before the age Hogan got to his first. Hogan walked away when he was 54 years old. That gives Cena 23 more years to accomplish everything Hogan did (and he does not need all 23). John Cena > Hulk Hogan I think this is a bad analogy. did it take hogan longer (since he started in the E') than Cena to be the champ?Yes, it still took Hogan longer. He originally debuted in WWF in 1979, then won the title 5 years later. Cena debuted in 2002, then won the title in 2005. Any way you look at it, Cena is coming out superior. Whether you people like it or not, Cena already is the modern day Hogan.
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Post by BulletV1 on Nov 7, 2008 11:09:20 GMT -5
Are right lets quit arguing time frames, and got to Cena's ultimate test....
Well can Cena put 93,000* asses in seats? I don't think he can.
*Don't argue other wise about the attendance count. For proof look at a picture of that crowd compared a crowd of 50,000 or so. You can tell that there was a legit 93,000(if not close to it)at WMIII
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