Billy the Kid
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Post by Billy the Kid on Nov 14, 2008 1:30:53 GMT -5
Being part of the UFC Fight Club, I received an email today about BJ Penn vs Georges St. Pierre for January 2009. It's for the Welterweight Championship...
How will that affect BJ Penn as the Lightweight Champion? Will he vacate the championship or simply defend both and fight in both weight classes?
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Sandy
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Post by Sandy on Nov 14, 2008 2:05:53 GMT -5
I think he should give one title up if he were to win both titles..Because that is not fair to either division considering how unbelievably stacked they are...especially the LW division. There are like 5 guys at the top of my head who could fight for the title.
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Post by PdW2kX on Nov 14, 2008 2:15:30 GMT -5
Penn's dream (and being perfectly honest, that's all it'll ever amount to) is to hold the championship belt of every weight class.
No joke.
If he does win, I see him being just crazy enough to defend both belts with regularity, regardless of the fact that a process as strenuous as that will more than likely break even someone of his phenomenal talent physically.
I don't like the man, on a bad day I've even wanted to see somebody shut him up, but I wholeheartedly attest to two facts: BJ has more than enough talent to back up his motormouth, and all the talent in the world won't prevent your body from breaking down if you're constantly cutting and gaining weight.
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Post by Sandy on Nov 14, 2008 2:26:41 GMT -5
I know that if he does win he will want Anderson Silva. I know it won't happen but my god what a match that would be.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 14, 2008 5:50:45 GMT -5
My money will be on GSP all the way. I'd be an idiot to bet against him seeing the roll he's been on. He's like Anderson Silva in his weight class. He's can't be stopped. And he's already beat Penn in the past and that's why I think he'll do it again. Put it this way, St. Pierre now is 100X better than he was when he beat Penn the first time around. He'll destroy B.J. and I can't  ing wait. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 14, 2008 6:08:11 GMT -5
Put it this way, St. Pierre now is 100X better than he was when he beat Penn the first time around. He'll destroy B.J. and I can't ing wait. BJ Penn is the Anderson Silva of his weight class. He has all the skill and aswell is a ton better then the two mens last meeting. Counting out BJ Penn is a bad idea also. I dont see either man destroying eachother but I guess we will have to wait and see. |
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Post by saveus1 on Nov 14, 2008 9:58:10 GMT -5
this match should be really good cant wait.
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 14, 2008 11:54:22 GMT -5
If the referees actually do their job and force St. Pierre to engage with Penn; rather than use his weight and strength advantage to just hold him against the cage for 20 minutes, it should be a great fight.
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Post by Codesters on Nov 14, 2008 16:00:55 GMT -5
My money will be on GSP all the way. I'd be an idiot to bet against him seeing the roll he's been on. He's like Anderson Silva in his weight class. He's can't be stopped. And he's already beat Penn in the past and that's why I think he'll do it again. Put it this way, St. Pierre now is 100X better than he was when he beat Penn the first time around. He'll destroy B.J. and I can't ing wait. Well Penn is 100 times better since he lost also. Itll be a helluva fight. Thats for sure. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 14, 2008 17:18:04 GMT -5
I don't believe Penn is 100x better. I mean, compare the guys he's beat to the guys GSP beat and there's literally no comparison.
B.J. beat Jens Pulver, Joe "Daddy" Stevenson to reclaim the belt and Sean Sherk. That's not a very impressive list compared to GSP.
GSP beat Matt Hughes twice, beat Josh Koscheck, destroyed Matt Serra to reclaim the belt, and most recently, beat Jon Fitch in a 25 minute all-out WAR. No doubt, GSP has defeated the better talented fighters.
I think GSP is the better fighter, hands down. And he will defeat B.J. once again. I have no doubt in my mind there.
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Post by bobvandam on Nov 14, 2008 19:22:29 GMT -5
My money will be on GSP all the way. I'd be an idiot to bet against him seeing the roll he's been on. He's like Anderson Silva in his weight class. He's can't be stopped. And he's already beat Penn in the past and that's why I think he'll do it again. Put it this way, St. Pierre now is 100X better than he was when he beat Penn the first time around. He'll destroy B.J. and I can't ing wait. Bj Penn should have won the match. Take downs shouldn't even count as points. GSP lost to matt serria that midget. That just shows when he has doubts he will lose. BJ penn with so much better cardio will destroy GSP even at his prime.  |
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Post by Mr. Orange on Nov 14, 2008 20:40:43 GMT -5
Awesome news. There's a chance that I'll be able to see this show live in Vegas! For those who haven't seen the poster,here it is:  |
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 15, 2008 1:48:49 GMT -5
B.J. beat Jens Pulver, Joe "Daddy" Stevenson to reclaim the belt and Sean Sherk. That's not a very impressive list compared to GSP. GSP beat Matt Hughes twice, beat Josh Koscheck, destroyed Matt Serra to reclaim the belt, and most recently, beat Jon Fitch in a 25 minute all-out WAR. No doubt, GSP has defeated the better talented fighters. I think GSP is the better fighter, hands down. And he will defeat B.J. once again. I have no doubt in my mind there. Jens Pulver, Joe Stevenson, and Sean Sherk are all more than capable opponents... Josh Koscheck is decent, but he's nothing special -- Matt Serra really isn't that good at all. |
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Post by DWright on Nov 15, 2008 2:39:11 GMT -5
I don't believe Penn is 100x better. I mean, compare the guys he's beat to the guys GSP beat and there's literally no comparison. B.J. beat Jens Pulver, Joe "Daddy" Stevenson to reclaim the belt and Sean Sherk. That's not a very impressive list compared to GSP. GSP beat Matt Hughes twice, beat Josh Koscheck, destroyed Matt Serra to reclaim the belt, and most recently, beat Jon Fitch in a 25 minute all-out WAR. No doubt, GSP has defeated the better talented fighters. I think GSP is the better fighter, hands down. And he will defeat B.J. once again. I have no doubt in my mind there. What? Hughes is aging and isn't the same fighter he was. Koscheck is a decent fighter, but not among the elite, and Matt Serra had his 15 minutes of fame. The only person that GSP has beat recently is Jon Fitch. Sherk/Stevenson are both bigger wins for Penn than anyone GSP has beat, not-named Fitch. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 15, 2008 3:01:17 GMT -5
I don't believe Penn is 100x better. I mean, compare the guys he's beat to the guys GSP beat and there's literally no comparison. B.J. beat Jens Pulver, Joe "Daddy" Stevenson to reclaim the belt and Sean Sherk. That's not a very impressive list compared to GSP. GSP beat Matt Hughes twice, beat Josh Koscheck, destroyed Matt Serra to reclaim the belt, and most recently, beat Jon Fitch in a 25 minute all-out WAR. No doubt, GSP has defeated the better talented fighters. I think GSP is the better fighter, hands down. And he will defeat B.J. once again. I have no doubt in my mind there. you really have some seriously wacked out opinions.... |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 15, 2008 3:32:54 GMT -5
I don't believe Penn is 100x better. I mean, compare the guys he's beat to the guys GSP beat and there's literally no comparison. B.J. beat Jens Pulver, Joe "Daddy" Stevenson to reclaim the belt and Sean Sherk. That's not a very impressive list compared to GSP. GSP beat Matt Hughes twice, beat Josh Koscheck, destroyed Matt Serra to reclaim the belt, and most recently, beat Jon Fitch in a 25 minute all-out WAR. No doubt, GSP has defeated the better talented fighters. I think GSP is the better fighter, hands down. And he will defeat B.J. once again. I have no doubt in my mind there. What? Hughes is aging and isn't the same fighter he was. Koscheck is a decent fighter, but not among the elite, and Matt Serra had his 15 minutes of fame. The only person that GSP has beat recently is Jon Fitch. Sherk/Stevenson are both bigger wins for Penn than anyone GSP has beat, not-named Fitch. I don't want to get into an argument here, but you've got your take it on it and so do I. To me, there's no question GSP has beat the better fighters. Come on man, Matt Hughes twice. Matt Hughes is the most dominant Welterweight of all-time and you've got to be pretty damn good to beat him once, let alone twice. I don't recall B.J. Penn ever beating Hughes, but I do recall VERY vividly seeing Penn getting trapped in a crucifix by Matt Hughes and getting his ing face punched in and eventually losing. I can't tell you how awesome it was to see that. I loved every second of it. ;D This will unquestionably, be B.J.'s toughest fight and I have the upmost faith & confidence that GSP will beat him again. Just like when GSP beat Matt Hughes. If he did it once, he can do it again. |
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 15, 2008 3:43:52 GMT -5
I don't recall B.J. Penn ever beating Hughes, Self ownage. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 15, 2008 6:48:12 GMT -5
I don't recall B.J. Penn ever beating Hughes, Self ownage. You know what, you are right and I am dead wrong. I had completely forgotten all about it. It happened WAY back at UFC #46 "Supernatural" when B.J. defeated him with a rear-naked choke. Then, he lost to Hughes a few years later at UFC #63. Oh well, I was wrong. Sue me. To me, the beating Hughes laid on Penn that night was more memorable anyway.  I guess after watching MMA for so long, you eventually forget who's beaten who and I did. It happens.. |
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 15, 2008 14:27:44 GMT -5
"The beating Hughes laid on Penn" happened because, while Penn was mounting Hughes' back, he separated two ribs.
Hughes was getting DESTROYED before that point.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 16, 2008 16:54:16 GMT -5
"The beating Hughes laid on Penn" happened because, while Penn was mounting Hughes' back, he separated two ribs. Hughes was getting DESTROYED before that point. Yeah, you may be right, but who finished the fight?? Yeah, exactly what I thought. |
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