|
Post by slappy on Dec 6, 2008 14:38:55 GMT -5
In the last year.... Cena has probably held it more times than HHH... Since WM 21, Cena has had a reign of 280 and 380 days. So, yeah, he's had it more.
|
|
|
Post by VK on Dec 6, 2008 15:13:42 GMT -5
HHH has barely held the title since he lost it to Batista at WrestleMania. I'm calling it now, he'll make it 25 reigns. After all, who gives a poop about the number of days you hold it? I'm sure that HHH just wants his number of reigns to go up. On a side note: I'm referring to world title reigns. I thought you were talking about Luther Reigns, silly me
|
|
|
Post by instant classic on Dec 6, 2008 16:13:50 GMT -5
Triple H as heel champion with Evolution > Hogan
|
|
|
Post by Mr.GT on Dec 6, 2008 16:16:57 GMT -5
I didn't know bitching about WWE/Triple H makes Hogan cool.
If so, Then everyone on here must be the coolest!
|
|
|
Post by BoJack Hogan on Dec 6, 2008 16:24:43 GMT -5
Triple H has taken numerous unwarranted shots at Hogan, it's about time for a receipt. I think that Triple H's weekly promos from Judgment day up until a few weeks ago expose the business more than anything. Lines such as "I come out and talk about you and you stay in the back. That is called a pro-mo". Now this is paraphrased, but he said something to that degree to MVP and Shelton one week causing me to roll my eyes. Idiots who say Hogan's show exposes the business are just looking for something else to blame Hogan for considering the business has been wide open since at least tough enough. Vince's death and injury angles also don't help either when the media reports on it, but takes the story down hours later irritated over being played. I see where Hogan is coming from even if he wasn't 100% correct.
|
|
Matthew Stovell
Main Eventer
Custom Muscle Mercenaries
Joined on: Jul 29, 2008 17:41:55 GMT -5
Posts: 2,099
|
Post by Matthew Stovell on Dec 6, 2008 16:25:48 GMT -5
In the last year.... Cena has probably held it more times than HHH... Since WM 21, Cena has had a reign of 280 and 380 days. So, yeah, he's had it more. but that's not what he said. since December last year, Cena' held the world title what, two weeks so far? whereas Tripper had his boring run with the belt for a good seven months
|
|
|
Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 6, 2008 17:21:42 GMT -5
Triple H does draw and he makes a good champion. People will always wonder if he'd have the same success he's had if he wasn't married to the head booker though.
|
|
|
Post by slappy on Dec 6, 2008 17:33:09 GMT -5
Since WM 21, Cena has had a reign of 280 and 380 days. So, yeah, he's had it more. but that's not what he said. since December last year, Cena' held the world title what, two weeks so far? whereas Tripper had his boring run with the belt for a good seven months He said held it more times, meaning more reigns than Hunter, not length like you are saying.
|
|
|
Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 6, 2008 19:12:41 GMT -5
but that's not what he said. since December last year, Cena' held the world title what, two weeks so far? whereas Tripper had his boring run with the belt for a good seven months He said held it more times, meaning more reigns than Hunter, not length like you are saying. But length matters. At least that's what all my girlfriends tell me.
|
|
|
Post by The Dude on Dec 6, 2008 19:33:19 GMT -5
HHH > Hogan IMO. Yeah HHH is Vince's son-in-law and yeah him having the title is a little stale, but he is still very good in the ring.
|
|
|
Post by ihavethepower on Dec 6, 2008 19:50:59 GMT -5
God you people are dumb!
HOGAN SAYS IT EXPOSES THE BUSINESS BY HAVING HUNTER BE CHAMP WHEN HE DOESN'T DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
HHH has tanked the ratings ever since he won his first title. The business has slid. When HHH is not champion, the ratings go up (see the Cena and Edge title reigns for proof). When they strap HHH, the ratings go back down! That makes HHH an underserving champ. Put it this way. Punk was given a run with the belt and ratings went down. How long before they give it back to Punk? A couple years, if ever? HHH tanks ratings with the belt and he's given the belt a few times a year (12 titles in 9-10 years).
Besides, let's be realistic here people. Does it really matter how long HHH holds the belt at a time? Even when he's not Champion, he hogs the main event spot, often putting the champion into higher mid-card status. He doesn't need the belt to hold people back from main event position. And let's not forget how HHH has single handedly killed off Randy Orton. Cracks me up that people blame Hogan for killing Orton in one match, but say absolutely nothing about HHH winning the belt off Orton 2 or 3 times and convincingly beating him whenever they meet.
HHH does not draw. Ratings go down when he's champion. The business has returned to pre-Monday Night War Ratings. This is all under HHH's reign as #1 main eventer.
Hogan is 1 Million Percent accurate in saying HHH as #1 guy exposes the business because if it was any other guy on the roster killing business this way, and NOT the boss' son-in-law, there is no way this person would have 12 title reigns. He would've been gone a long time ago. But we're not talking about another person are we? We're talking about the 5th McMahon.
|
|
|
Post by slappy on Dec 6, 2008 19:54:08 GMT -5
It's not like Cena brought ratings back up to the times of WWF vs WCW.
|
|
|
Post by ihavethepower on Dec 6, 2008 19:56:52 GMT -5
It's not like Cena brought ratings back up to the times of WWF vs WCW. This is true, but he brought in about half a million more viewers when he returns. That's a draw, and a spike in ratings. What has HHH done for ratings on Smackdown? They are actually lower than they were and don't give me that crap about the switch to Mynetwork TV. Because all that changed was the name of the stations. It's not like fans had to find the show on a different channel or different night.
|
|
|
Post by slappy on Dec 6, 2008 20:13:49 GMT -5
Actually, yes, it did move to a different channel.
|
|
|
Post by Batista on Dec 6, 2008 20:17:54 GMT -5
It would be true, if Triple H couldnt wrestle. But , the man ing lives his life for wrestling, Im so sick of all the Trip bashers just cause he married Steph. Hogans just jealous that hes not the champ.
|
|
Sims
Main Eventer
It's kinda cool to be back on here after years away.
Joined on: Aug 21, 2006 17:58:49 GMT -5
Posts: 2,713
|
Post by Sims on Dec 6, 2008 21:31:46 GMT -5
It's not like Cena brought ratings back up to the times of WWF vs WCW. This is true, but he brought in about half a million more viewers when he returns. That's a draw, and a spike in ratings. What has HHH done for ratings on Smackdown? They are actually lower than they were and don't give me that crap about the switch to Mynetwork TV. Because all that changed was the name of the stations. It's not like fans had to find the show on a different channel or different night. - January 4: 2.9 - January 11: 2.8 - January 18: 2.8 - January 25: 2.7 - February 1: 2.8 - February 8: 2.6 - February 15: 2.8 - February 22: 2.7 - February 29: 2.6 - March 7: 2.6 - March 14: 2.6 - March 21: 2.5 - March 28: 2.4 - April 4: 2.7 - April 11: 2.5 - April 18: 2.2 - April 25: 2.4 - May 2: 2.4 - May 9: 2.4 - May 16: 2.4 - May 23: 2.4 - May 30: 2.3 - June 6: 2.4 - June 13: 2.3 - June 20: 2.2 No triple H - June 27: 2.5Triple H it increased.(highest in 2 months) - July 4: 1.6 - July 11: 2.3 - July 18: 2.4 - July 25: 2.4 - August 1: 2.4 - August 8: 2.0 - August 15: 2.4 - August 22: 2.1 - August 29: 2.3 - September 5: 2.4 - September 12: 2.5 - September 19: 2.3 - September 26: 2.4 - October 3: 1.9 - October 10: 2.1 - October 17: 2.0 - October 24: 2.1 - October 31: 1.7 - November 7: 2.1 - November 14: 2.2 - November 21: 2.2 - November 28: 2.1 They kinda fluctuate tho its not like they went from 4 to 2's. So I don't mean when you say they were a lot lower they've been that way since January of this year long before he came. Excluding the occasional 1.(what ever) they stay mainly in the 2.2,2.3,2.4 etc so yeah,not like they plummeted.
|
|
|
Post by ihavethepower on Dec 6, 2008 22:18:25 GMT -5
- January 4: 2.9 - January 11: 2.8 - January 18: 2.8 - January 25: 2.7 - February 1: 2.8 - February 8: 2.6 - February 15: 2.8 - February 22: 2.7 - February 29: 2.6 - March 7: 2.6 - March 14: 2.6 - March 21: 2.5 - March 28: 2.4 - April 4: 2.7 - April 11: 2.5 - April 18: 2.2 - April 25: 2.4 - May 2: 2.4 - May 9: 2.4 - May 16: 2.4 - May 23: 2.4 - May 30: 2.3 - June 6: 2.4 - June 13: 2.3 - June 20: 2.2 No triple H - June 27: 2.5Triple H it increased.(highest in 2 months) - July 4: 1.6 - July 11: 2.3 - July 18: 2.4 - July 25: 2.4 - August 1: 2.4 - August 8: 2.0 - August 15: 2.4 - August 22: 2.1 - August 29: 2.3 - September 5: 2.4 - September 12: 2.5 - September 19: 2.3 - September 26: 2.4 - October 3: 1.9 - October 10: 2.1 - October 17: 2.0 - October 24: 2.1 - October 31: 1.7 - November 7: 2.1 - November 14: 2.2 - November 21: 2.2 - November 28: 2.1 They kinda fluctuate tho its not like they went from 4 to 2's. So I don't mean when you say they were a lot lower they've been that way since January of this year long before he came. Excluding the occasional 1.(what ever) they stay mainly in the 2.2,2.3,2.4 etc so yeah,not like they plummeted. Are you ing kidding me bro? In January, the show was getting a 2.9. When did the draft happen? After Mania? In April? The only reason HHH was sent to Smackdown was so that the show would have "star power" when it switched to the new station. He did NOTHING to get the ratings higher. He couldn't even raise them to the level they were at just 3 months before he got there. Cementing my point that HHH IS NOT A DRAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made my point for me. As for Slappy's comment about the show switching stations. I can tell you that it stayed on the same Station and time in Chicago. UPN changed it's name to Mynetwork TV. Aside from that, nothing changed. Smackdown is still on the same channel at the same time on the same day. How about we look at it this way? Turner Broadcasting cancelled WCW's shows when they were still drawing between 2's and 3's. Smackdown gets the same ratings as cancelled WCW shows. In other words, the same amount of people tune in to see HHH as they did to see Ernest The Cat Miller as Commissioner in the dying days of Thunder. Put that fact in your pipe and smoke it! HHH is as big a draw as Ernest The Cat Miller!
|
|
|
Post by slappy on Dec 6, 2008 22:23:47 GMT -5
They switched to the CW and then back to UPN/MyNetworkTV.
Why is it Hunter's fault? Why can't it be that he has had to face Koslov and Hardy? I'm sure that didn't help things.
|
|
|
Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 6, 2008 23:52:34 GMT -5
No Hogan is still a douche... triple H deserves the title. I can't stand watching a Hogan match.. but a Triple H match.. I can watch.
|
|
|
Post by TeamExtreme718x on Dec 7, 2008 2:10:37 GMT -5
For once i dont disagree with the guy..
|
|