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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 11, 2008 14:18:07 GMT -5
Sorry, couldn't resist. You have got to love people who waste so much of their time commenting on things they hate so much. If you think TNA is that bad why are you commenting on it? Do you watch it? If you do, then please explain why. I for one don't watch things I hate. I consider it a waste of my time. You've also got to love people who attack someone's opinion then ask them to explain their opinion. I've often felt that TNA fans are so quick to dismiss any negative view on the product because deep inside they know it's garbage and thus when presented with the truth of the abysmal nature of TNA's program react only due to their subconscious awareness that they're completely wasting their own time. This type of internal conflict often leads to such blatant contradictions and hate mongering. Just look at religion. In another example, note how he automatically defends the excessive use of weapons without the person he quoted saying anything relating to it. Is his quickness to defend something that wasn't brought up simply showing that he realizes the product is guilty of it? Also note the obligatory comparison to an angle that worked using similar circumstances as a means to support his flimsy argument. And sure, hitting someone with a trademark, foreign object has been done for ages in the wrestling business. However if your argument is that because it worked before it works now, why was the near shot-for-shot remake of "Psycho" in 1997 far inferior to the original? Hrm? I'm just sick of seeing uneducated bashing of TNA. I don't care if they get bashed for the idiotic things they do. That is something i've done from time to time myself. However it looks like TNA is trying really hard to turn the corner. They have cut way back on the comedy garbage and the general tone is starting to get more serious. Sorry for rambling but this is just wearing me out. If you don't like TNA there is a very simple solution. Stop watching and paying attention to it. If you do like it. Come in here with educated criticism. Not rehashed crap that doesn't even make sense anymore. Note how anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint is uneducated. It's also funny how TNA's attempt to "turn the corner" looks an awful lot like pushing older wrestlers over the younger crop which, isn't that exactly what TNA's been criticized for doing for years now? And so my conclusion is that TNA sucks and anyone who watches it is either a crazy, blood oath swearing diehard, or someone simply amused with a company that managed to take a great TV deal, one of the best rosters ever put together for a nationally televised wrestling company, and some of the biggest stars from the past and puts on one of the worst wrestling programs that has ever existed. Or maybe we just enjoythe product. "You've also got to love people who attack someone's opinion then ask them to explain their opinion." - trust me. I've got to do that more times than I can count just because my opinions diffrent and I like the product. You don't like it, Asia don't like it - fine. Let me like it and move on. Not that hard to do tbh.
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Post by CBT on Dec 11, 2008 14:44:24 GMT -5
I'd say a 6 or 7 too and a 6 is really pushing it. WWE is do better no matter which brand you take. ECW is in a bad situation with a short roster, and without crossovers TNA has a hold on being better, but I'd still rather watch WWE.
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Post by warmachine76 on Dec 11, 2008 15:48:42 GMT -5
Sorry, couldn't resist. You've also got to love people who attack someone's opinion then ask them to explain their opinion. I've often felt that TNA fans are so quick to dismiss any negative view on the product because deep inside they know it's garbage and thus when presented with the truth of the abysmal nature of TNA's program react only due to their subconscious awareness that they're completely wasting their own time. This type of internal conflict often leads to such blatant contradictions and hate mongering. Just look at religion. In another example, note how he automatically defends the excessive use of weapons without the person he quoted saying anything relating to it. Is his quickness to defend something that wasn't brought up simply showing that he realizes the product is guilty of it? Also note the obligatory comparison to an angle that worked using similar circumstances as a means to support his flimsy argument. And sure, hitting someone with a trademark, foreign object has been done for ages in the wrestling business. However if your argument is that because it worked before it works now, why was the near shot-for-shot remake of "Psycho" in 1997 far inferior to the original? Hrm? Note how anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint is uneducated. It's also funny how TNA's attempt to "turn the corner" looks an awful lot like pushing older wrestlers over the younger crop which, isn't that exactly what TNA's been criticized for doing for years now? And so my conclusion is that TNA sucks and anyone who watches it is either a crazy, blood oath swearing diehard, or someone simply amused with a company that managed to take a great TV deal, one of the best rosters ever put together for a nationally televised wrestling company, and some of the biggest stars from the past and puts on one of the worst wrestling programs that has ever existed. Or maybe we just enjoythe product. "You've also got to love people who attack someone's opinion then ask them to explain their opinion." - trust me. I've got to do that more times than I can count just because my opinions diffrent and I like the product. You don't like it, Asia don't like it - fine. Let me like it and move on. Not that hard to do tbh. Thanks for the assist SG. TNA fans need to stick together. Especially on this pro WWE board. Now, my turn. Alex- Once again all you did was rehash things others have said over and over again. Which happens to be a pile of uneducated tripe and just gives credence to what I said. Firstly, That wasn't an attack and why wouldn't I expect someone to defend their opinion? If it is their opinion they shouldn't be scared to defend it with an educated response. Asia had the big comeback of: "ok than, -1, TNA and there fanboys suck it" I may have not typed that exactly as it was written but then again I do have better than a third grade education. (Now that was an attack.) Was that an educated response by Asia? Did it further the topic discussion? I really can't see how it did. It seemed like the typical WWE troll vomit to me. Secondly, The weapon issue. Point out to me the matches that have involved excessive weapon use over the last six months. Other than Beer Money using the bottle and the Beautiful People using the hair spray. You can point to those if you want but they are gimmick specific and in my opinion they don't count. You would think the way people act that there is a weapon used in every single match. Thirdly, The MEM over the Frontline and turning the corner. Do you really think that the end result of this feud will be the MEM standing tall over the Frontline? If you do then you have no clue. The point of the MEM winning is to build drama. So when the Frontline finally break through it will be explosive. TNA is going for an epic angle not a throw away. If you don't like a long build then you probably wouldn't like this angle. Hell this thing hasn't even really got going yet. I could see this angle running all the way to Bound for Glory V. All i'm saying is bring educated responses to the party. I like a spirited debate. If you can't though, don't bother posting. This is the TNA board not the TNA bashing board. You can call me a fanboy or whatever you like. I don't really care. I'm a big boy and my feelings don't get hurt easy. I like TNA and I will defend it.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Dec 11, 2008 20:37:57 GMT -5
I answered the Question, I don't need to leave a 5 page reply that you won't accept because your fanboy. Regardless of what facts I bring to back myself up you will ALWAYS have the same opinion so its useless.
So I just answered the question, you got mad I gave TNA a 0 and smited me (which in itself is sad).
Also I'm not a "WWE Troll" I dislike that product aswell. I gave then a 5 on the other poll. I don't watch EVERY impact but I follow through, recaps, reports and youtube videos to know I'm still being insulted mentally.
I saw the last ppv because it was a "feed". Otherwise I wouldn't have....
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 11, 2008 20:59:26 GMT -5
Or maybe we just enjoythe product. "You've also got to love people who attack someone's opinion then ask them to explain their opinion." - trust me. I've got to do that more times than I can count just because my opinions diffrent and I like the product. You don't like it, Asia don't like it - fine. Let me like it and move on. Not that hard to do tbh. Thanks for the assist SG. TNA fans need to stick together. Especially on this pro WWE board. Now, my turn. Alex- Once again all you did was rehash things others have said over and over again. Which happens to be a pile of uneducated tripe and just gives credence to what I said. Firstly, That wasn't an attack and why wouldn't I expect someone to defend their opinion? If it is their opinion they shouldn't be scared to defend it with an educated response. Asia had the big comeback of: "ok than, -1, TNA and there fanboys suck it" I may have not typed that exactly as it was written but then again I do have better than a third grade education. (Now that was an attack.) Was that an educated response by Asia? Did it further the topic discussion? I really can't see how it did. It seemed like the typical WWE troll vomit to me. Secondly, The weapon issue. Point out to me the matches that have involved excessive weapon use over the last six months. Other than Beer Money using the bottle and the Beautiful People using the hair spray. You can point to those if you want but they are gimmick specific and in my opinion they don't count. You would think the way people act that there is a weapon used in every single match. Thirdly, The MEM over the Frontline and turning the corner. Do you really think that the end result of this feud will be the MEM standing tall over the Frontline? If you do then you have no clue. The point of the MEM winning is to build drama. So when the Frontline finally break through it will be explosive. TNA is going for an epic angle not a throw away. If you don't like a long build then you probably wouldn't like this angle. Hell this thing hasn't even really got going yet. I could see this angle running all the way to Bound for Glory V. All i'm saying is bring educated responses to the party. I like a spirited debate. If you can't though, don't bother posting. This is the TNA board not the TNA bashing board. You can call me a fanboy or whatever you like. I don't really care. I'm a big boy and my feelings don't get hurt easy. I like TNA and I will defend it. And they don't like TNA.. and they'll defend that they don't. They're opinions - no one but you can change them. No use in fighting so let's just agree to disagree.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 11, 2008 21:54:19 GMT -5
I give it an 8. They have some of the greatest wrestlers like Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Sting, Samoa Joe and others. I love that the knockouts are being used like women wrestlers other than just eye-candy. My favorite part of TNA is the Main Event Mafia. Along with Jeff Jarrett, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe, being on there, they're the only reason I watch TNA Impact every week. The things they could improve on is the use of gimmick matches. It's ok to have gimmick matches, but not every week. Some people say that they are a copy of WCW, but in TNA, atleast they know how to use the big marketing superstars. In WCW, they barely knew how to use Bret Hart when he jumped ship. Also, they need to use the X-Division the way it used to be, well, I think they're starting now.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Dec 11, 2008 23:50:42 GMT -5
A solid 7, but still better than WWE.
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Post by RBW on Dec 12, 2008 7:32:04 GMT -5
lucky number se7en
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Post by takerfandan on Dec 12, 2008 15:40:55 GMT -5
I went with 7.
reason being;
Curry Man got fired. =]
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