Frank Mir: "Lesnar will never beat me."

The only way I could see Lesnar beating Nogueira is if Nogueira's chin starts to go downhill. Everyone knows the guy has a cast-iron chin, but as the years go by, most veteran fighters become less and less tolerant of strikes, especially strikes with the force that Brock provides.

Otherwise, yeah... I don't see Lesnar beating Nog. He could take him down and control him, but that would put Lesnar in prime danger of being submitted. And while I think Lesnar can take down Nogueira at will, he's severely overmatched by Nog once they get to the canvas.

He could possibly outstrike Nog, but again... it depends where Nog's chin is at this stage of his career.

Regarding Lesnar-Mir II, I feel pretty much the same way I felt about their first fight: *If* Lesnar doesn't do anything stupid and keeps the pressure on with strikes, he will win a rematch. Otherwise, Mir is still light years ahead of Lesnar in BJJ and always will be, so if he avoids getting his clock cleaned, he could win a rematch just like he won the first fight.

woah woah woah..lets NOT get on that topic. Yeah..he beat Lesnar in his debut...the same guy who after beating 2 guys got a title shot...so dont play that card cause Lesnar did nothing to deserve his title shot other than having a marketable name.
So dont crapon Mir for not doing anything significant to get his title shot, cause neither did Lesnar.

with that said, I see Nogueira knocking out Mir, and then I have him winning in late rounds to Lesnar.

Am I the only one who actually dislikes a majority of his commentary? I hate when he jumps the gun and exclaims in such a confident tone "Ya, it's over" whenever someone is applying a submission. It gets annoying when it happens so often, and the guy quickly manages to break out of the submission each time.

I do agree on all the complaints towards him as a person though. He appears to be very arrogant and comes off as a bit of a prick. He's a damn good submission guy, but I've always felt he's incredibly lacking as a "complete" fighter.

I think Nog could beat Mir simply by keeping the fight a stand-up battle. Nog should test the hell out of Mir's endurance and will by applying (in my opinion) his superior striking skills.

How did Brock do nothing? In his second MMA fighter ever he almost stopped a former champ..that isn't impressive?

That same guy is now saying Lesnar will never beat him when it seems Lesnar keeps getting better with each fight, which is also impressive as each fight he has the level of competition gets closer and closer to the top HW's of the world. It just seems silly for Mir to say.

Yet...still NO ONE can name 1 HW in the UFC that deserved the shot more, which I find to be hilarious. You want to announce you've brought back Randy Couture and then not have him fight until April? Sounds like a genius plan.

Brock may not have "deserved" it...but he was the obvious choice, and there was NO ONE else.

I've done that argument to death.

Mir beat no one to get the title shot (he beat Hardonk, who's a can, and Lesnar, who was in his first fight in the UFC and you complain about doing nothing to deserve anything) Lesnar beat Herring (who's at least a legit HW).

I've never once said Lesnar deserved a title shot based on who he's beat...but I STILL challenge anyone (you especially, since you always dodge it) to name someone that Couture should have fought instead.

You bring back Randy Couture (who you never stripped of his title), who hadn't fought in 14 months, he needs an opponent immediately. WHO ELSE fights there? You've complained for months about Lesnar (who by the way, BEAT Couture. You know won. You know...defeated? You know....was victorious?) getting a title shot...but you avoid putting someone else in his place that was more deserving.

Brock Lesnar got a title shot to make UFC money... Bottom line, that's what it's all about.

... Ugh....

That's my only response. Just "Ugh..."

Heath Herring is one of the better heavyweights in the world. Sure, he's not ELITE, but he's not bad enough that he's just going to get manhandled like a child in every fight.

I wasn't bitching.

Just think it is funny that Mir is being talked about as if he is an elite fighter. He is being talked about with fighters like Randy Couture and Nog...and yes as much as you hate it the UFC champion Brock Lesnar. Once this little tournament is over you will never see Frank Mir ever come close to a title shot.