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Post by ICW on Dec 28, 2008 12:48:13 GMT -5
I was not refering to you but the person who created the threat. Hell, if anyone you would understand the storyline because you have a huge hardon for anything TNA.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 28, 2008 12:50:29 GMT -5
I was not refering to you but the person who created the threat. Hell, if anyone you would understand the storyline because you have a huge hardon for anything TNA. Ah. My mistake - but it has nothing to do with having a "huge hardon" for TNA. It's the fact I pay attention to storylines, matches, commentary, etc. Yeah.. if you actually pay attention and watch every week, you wouldn't have a problemm understanding this storyline. |
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Post by ICW on Dec 28, 2008 13:16:40 GMT -5
I was not refering to you but the person who created the threat. Hell, if anyone you would understand the storyline because you have a huge hardon for anything TNA. Ah. My mistake - but it has nothing to do with having a "huge hardon" for TNA. It's the fact I pay attention to storylines, matches, commentary, etc. Yeah.. if you actually pay attention and watch every week, you wouldn't have a problemm understanding this storyline. It's not about understanding the storyline. It's about the little things TNA does with the storyline that make you want to scream. As the creator of this thread said, it seems very  ing stupid for the Main Event Mafia (which is intellectually- disabled name to begin with) to beat down the Front Line yet Mick Foley, who takes him an hour to get down the ramp, to take them all down one by one. How does that make ANY sense to you? |
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Post by Heresy on Dec 28, 2008 13:23:19 GMT -5
Understanding the storyline and understanding the mentality behind the storyline's direction are two different things... the former isn't difficult at all to understand. It started out with "younger generation rising up against the main eventers" and transformed into a more typical NWO-esque "MEM must be stopped." Why they took emphasis off the un-established wrestlers, disregarding the future stability/freshness of their main event scene, is what I'm sure many including myself fail to understand...
Also, Lethal being booked to take Kurt Angle "to the limit" doesn't make him a main eventer, or even close to it. You need more than in-ring equality to become established... persistent relevance and acknowledgement, buildup, and mic time are just as important... none of which Jay Lethal recieves. Alex Shelley and Sabin are getting some of this, but I'd be fooling myself to believe it'll go anywhere.
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Post by abyss on Dec 28, 2008 13:40:04 GMT -5
Yeah it honestly should have been MEM vs. Jarrett, Joe, AJ, and Daniels. But it's turning into a debacle of a storyline. I think at this point that TNA is best ending all of it at Lockdown in a Lethal Lockdown match. On the front, this idea seemed good. But I think it'll end up in a mess, and one of those "where do we go from here?" situations. I think adding Team 3D is fine along with Foley because it adds something to the "Frontline" that the Mafia doesn't have (storyline wise). If you've got 5 world champions in one group - egos are going to clash, if you've got Joe, Styles, Jarrett, Foley, 3D & Rhino - they're not going to clash due to the fact they're fighting for the "future of TNA" which is the same fight as everyone else in the FL. They can pull this storyline somewhat to Slammiversary and pull a Slammiversary '06 - Sting/Cage's "egos" clash while they both have the chance to hang it. They could do Sting/Angle really - Styles pushes them off the ladder, grabs the belt - world champion. It'll end good no mater what because being "put over" to me doesn't mean you have to win every match. If you have a guy in Jay Lethal who takes Angle/Sting to their limit, you just "made" Lethal into a guy who can be a main eventer. It's kinda like when he wrested Jeff Jarrett to his limit back in '06 for the World Title. He took Jeff to his limit and made you go "Wow!". Losing isn't always a bad thing. If at the end of the storyline (if it's at Lockdown) and they do "Lethal Lockdown" and do Sting/Angle/Steiner/Nash vs. Styles/Jarrett/Petey/Samoa Joe then it's fine and which ever team wins gets world title shots. Yeah, you have washed up mid-carders, which is something the MEM doesn't have. And honestly, I completely forgot about Lethal taking Jarrett to the limit. And, Lethal BEAT Angle a year ago for the x division title. But again, TNA never capitalizes on it, so nobody remembers it. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Dec 28, 2008 13:46:26 GMT -5
Ah. My mistake - but it has nothing to do with having a "huge hardon" for TNA. It's the fact I pay attention to storylines, matches, commentary, etc. Yeah.. if you actually pay attention and watch every week, you wouldn't have a problemm understanding this storyline. It's not about understanding the storyline. It's about the little things TNA does with the storyline that make you want to scream. As the creator of this thread said, it seems very ing stupid for the Main Event Mafia (which is intellectually- disabled name to begin with) to beat down the Front Line yet Mick Foley, who takes him an hour to get down the ramp, to take them all down one by one. How does that make ANY sense to you? It makes sense because he watches every show and listens to the commentary. Which makes sense because Mike Tenay will explain EVERYTHING. Tenay is worst announcer right now because of this, take his production sheet away and just let him see the show. I'll agree this started well but I think having Rhino and 3D join was a bit silly and took away from the point of the whole angle. I honestly thought 3D would've stayed heel and stuck with MEM, while Rhino was off to the side doing semi-racist promos against Bashir. I'll be happy when this storyline ends so they can start another that will go well for a few weeks so they can it up shortly thereafter. |
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Post by Deep Shadows on Dec 29, 2008 2:52:24 GMT -5
I agree with you...the whole storyline has just went downhill. It had so much promise at the beginning but it seems as if they lost their train of thought halfway through. But I will say that MEM vs. Frontline has really made TNA more exciting to watch the last month or so.
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Post by pricelessted on Dec 30, 2008 3:17:20 GMT -5
I think its gonna end just like the ECW Originals vs the New Breed storyline. Wait how did that one end anyway? lol.
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Post by samsson on Dec 30, 2008 14:55:10 GMT -5
Lets start by getting rid of Russo. Next having team 3D and others do the talking shows that although they are great wrestlers...Joe , AJ, Daniels etc are not great on the mic and in this age of "entertainment" over substance they don't have the mic power to handle MEM.Just by talking and beat downs MEM really would never have to do a match because most are entertaining to just listen to.On the other hand most on the frontline you want to shut up and just wrestle.The frontline just being babies and crying that they where here first is also killing this whole thing.Joe should go back to the Joe that demolished the X-division(more Taz like) and become a force.The frontline needs to start jumping people themselves.Imagine a promo to open the show with Joe backstage standing over a MEM member wiping blood on his towel and staring into the camera saying ," hey guys I finally get it(LAUGHS).....and now so will YOU"  |
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Post by K5 on Dec 31, 2008 18:18:20 GMT -5
I'll agree this started well but I think having Rhino and 3D join was a bit silly and took away from the point of the whole angle. I honestly thought 3D would've stayed heel and stuck with MEM, while Rhino was off to the side doing semi-racist promos against Bashir. this is exactly how i feel as well. 3D was a heel for how long, and even now they're only neutral, yet they put them on a team meant to build young stars? the whole point of the angle, i thought, was clearly to build the younger stars by building the MEM only to job themselves shitless at the end of it to all the new stars...why would they put ryno in a match against the champion, why not a younger guy to build the whole storyline? ryno is a terrible leader. he's been mr.job since his championship loss. |
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Post by ppk101 on Jan 3, 2009 0:09:21 GMT -5
I agree with those who said that Rhino and 3D shouldn't have been added to the mix. It just puts the younger guys in the background yet again, when it started off as a good chance of establishing them as possible main eventers.
I am still shocked at how they would pick Russo to book TNA over Heyman. They take someone who helped create insanity in WCW (not in a good way) over someone who brought a low budget Indy company to be as well known as it was. Genius move, TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 2:31:40 GMT -5
Although I LIKE the MEM storyline I also think its casting a shadow on TNA's former integrity and 'high-flying/different style'. Its hard to say how it will end but hopefully the stable doesnt grwo, it has enough members already. But who knows..maybe they'll pull an 'Eric Bishoff' and have Jeff Jarrett join.
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Post by tnafan4life on Jan 3, 2009 2:44:35 GMT -5
Why would Jeff join? Kurt's took shots at his wife who's passed away, Jill and his kids..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 3:46:00 GMT -5
Why would Jeff join? Kurt's took shots at his wife who's passed away, Jill and his kids.. Yea, and Eric Bishoff was power bombed off a stage by the OutSiders before joining the nWo. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Jan 3, 2009 3:47:22 GMT -5
Why would Jeff join? Kurt's took shots at his wife who's passed away, Jill and his kids.. Yea, and Eric Bishoff was power bombed off a stage by the OutSiders before joining the nWo. Being powerbombed off a stage is a big diffrence compared to things Kurt's said/done - storyline wise.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 3:52:17 GMT -5
Being powerbombed off a stage is a big diffrence compared to things Kurt's said/done - storyline wise.. Would you care to explain how verbally attacking somebody is worse then almost paralyzing them? |
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Post by tnafan4life on Jan 3, 2009 3:55:05 GMT -5
I never said it was worse.. but it's no way better. You've got to be one sick bastard to take shots at someone's wife/husband who's passed a way as far as a storyline goes. It would make ZERO sense for Jeff to join them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 4:00:02 GMT -5
I never said it was worse.. but it's no way better. You've got to be one sick bastard to take shots at someone's wife/husband who's passed a way as far as a storyline goes. It would make ZERO sense for Jeff to join them. Do you even remember all the shots the nWo took at Bishoff before he became thier leader? If TNA is really trying to push MEM (as they obviously are doing) It would make alot of sense for Jeff to join...he's in thier league of "legends" and head of the company. It would really make the MEM get major heat. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Jan 3, 2009 5:00:54 GMT -5
I didn't watch WCW - also it would make no sense for Jeff to join after this whole storyline with Angle. It makes ZERO sense what so ever for Jeff to go "Hey, forget the fact you threatened my kids, took shots at my wife who's passed away, and buried a company I built. I'm going to join you". That makes no sense - no matter how much heat it would get - it would be pointless. If they did that they should just end the storyline now instead of making that toatlly unrealistic call.
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Post by T1 on Jan 3, 2009 11:53:58 GMT -5
I didn't watch WCW - also it would make no sense for Jeff to join after this whole storyline with Angle. It makes ZERO sense what so ever for Jeff to go "Hey, forget the fact you threatened my kids, took shots at my wife who's passed away, and buried a company I built. I'm going to join you". That makes no sense - no matter how much heat it would get - it would be pointless. If they did that they should just end the storyline now instead of making that toatlly unrealistic call. Who cares, anything is possible in wrestling world. Just look at Rhino & Team 3D right now...didn't they have a bitter violent feud over the summer yet now they're allies? Or as the guy above me said, the nWo example. Jarrett has a lust for gold and him joining the Mafia would only cement that. |
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