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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2008 13:31:50 GMT -5
ok so...it seems to me that TNA is bringing in the $ just not exactly the huge fan base, now i realize that at TNA Live shows that they're good draws...so why is it when they go do PPVs outside of Orlando that they have only half or so of the arena full? doesn't make sense to me. from what i heard they had to use some "plants" at the Vegas HD show a couple months ago. looked like that venue held about 1,000 people maybe 1,200 max. so imo something's not clicking here because if they're drawing well at house shows, why aren't they doing as well at PPVs? doesn't make sense to me. i do have to praise TNA with the fact of they're STARTING to push some of the new talent, like AJ, Samoa Joe, Jay Lethal, etc. which is REALLY good imo, obviously they need to if they wanna keep the company fresh and new. here's something that i think TNA did really crappy, why make that stupid legends title, the only "legends" in that company imo are in the MEM, maybe Team 3D and a couple others, but why make that title, it's the most pointless title ever. i mean quite frankly i think they should have made a TNA Hardcore Title, i mean they have, Monsters Ball, Barbed Wire Massacre, Full Metal Mayhem, KOTM which isn't really a true hardcore match obviously but it could be, uhhh....Barbed Wire 6 Sides of Steel, etc, the list goes on. i mean to be honest if they put some thought into TNA, not that they don't but maybe some extra thought, they'd put in a Hardcore Division. me being a fan of TRUE hardcore wrestling, i.e. ECW style, I'd love to see TNA go a little bit hardcore with a TNA Hardcore Championship. I'd be a good rating grabber and if they do it right, they'd have A LOT of hardcore wrestling fans tune in if they had one or two variant hardcore matches a week. i think I'd be good for their product, AND plus they have Mick Foley, Team 3D, Rhino, BG James, Abyss, Samoa Joe, and others that have seen that hardcore style before whether it be in WWE, ECW, CZW, or the indys, either way you look at it, it would do them good. one more thing i have to say about TNA's product has to do with Bound for Glory. now i know, it's NOT Wrestlemania, BUT why not promote it like Wrestlemania, i know that ticket sales aren't gonna be the same for BFG as they are to WM obviously but why not promote it like WM? Have them advertise in....June or so about BFG saying that it's TNA's biggest show etc etc etc. they need that kind of promotion for that event, if it's TNA's biggest event of the year, why aren't they promoting it like it is? and at BFG they need to have it BE the biggest show of the year, maybe in a bigger venue, a bigger stage, more pyro, every belt on the line, new matches in the card, etc. BFG NEEDS to be TNA's biggest PPV of the year because that's what's going to draw into the following year. and TNA needs to make BFG it's biggest event by promoting it as such and giving it the presentation of being TNA's biggest show of the year.
sorry for such the long rambling blah blah.
but thanks for reading it.
Chip
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Post by Heresy on Dec 29, 2008 14:16:02 GMT -5
Paragraphs are your friend.
People aren't interested in the TNA product, I guess. People want something new... not the same old presented as something new.
AJ, Joe, and Lethal aren't new talent... neither are MCMG, Beer Money, and LAX... just guys that TNA presents as new because they've been in the midcard forever.
You're right about the Legends title I've said the same thing... however if they can't use the X-division title right they wouldn't use a hardcore title right either.
TNA is horrible at advertising.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 14:39:09 GMT -5
I fail to see how TNA is "horrible" at advertising. They had two huge billboards in Florence for a HOUSE SHOW, they had flyers in couple of diffrent stores, they had a big thing in the newspaper for it..
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Post by James Hetfield on Dec 29, 2008 14:41:00 GMT -5
If TNA was great at advertising, they would get better ratings.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 14:44:41 GMT -5
If TNA was great at advertising, they would get better ratings. iMPACT? Sure, they don't advertise iMPACT like they should but over-all as far as other things (house shows, ppvs, etc) they do a pretty good job. They've got the perfect chance to make a great commerical that'll make people go "Wow! Sting!" or "Wow Kurt Angle!" and thats putting the M.E.M on a commerical, Foley on one, Jarrett on one and mix that with guys like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Beer Money, MCMG, etc and air it during WWE shows.  |
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Post by K5 on Dec 29, 2008 17:18:31 GMT -5
okay, you should really learn to use paragraphs. you said a lot of good points but a lot of people wouldn't read that for it's format; i won't lie, it was easy to get lost trying to read it.
anyways, as for what you said i mostly agree. the legends title is a pretty bland idea, unless they were to be planning to be bringing in random 'legends' that are still active. ofcourse, they probably won't do this.
the idea of a hardcore title is by no means a bad one, it is a concept that a lot of nonserious wrestling fans enjoy and would tune into, and possibly become fans of.
and yes, i completely agree, they need more significance towards the PPVs and how they differ.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 17:22:58 GMT -5
I still say they're going to have Booker T drop it to a "younger guy" and then that young guy will turn it into a diffrent title OR they'll have Foley says it's never been a real TNA title and strip him of it and deactive it.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Dec 29, 2008 18:23:04 GMT -5
I still say they're going to have Booker T drop it to a "younger guy" and then that young guy will turn it into a diffrent title OR they'll have Foley says it's never been a real TNA title and strip him of it and deactive it. Know why that's a bad idea? Because then it shows how TNA feels they can just throw away money on a useless title, when they can't. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2008 18:26:17 GMT -5
TNA is terrible at advertising. They do advertise like crazy, but not in a good way.
If TNA was advertising the way a wrestling company should be, they'd be drawing ratings to iMPACT! And learning that most wrestling fans don't wanna see washed up talent shoved down their throats.
EDIT: Just so theres no confusion, I didn't even read the original post. My head hurt from reading his reply to my ECW post, so I didn't even bother.
- Triple S
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 19:54:24 GMT -5
I don't see washed up talents being shoved down my throat..
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Dec 29, 2008 20:12:29 GMT -5
SG, you're the reason I come into these TNA threads/discussions and leave with a smile.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2008 20:53:20 GMT -5
I don't see washed up talents being shoved down my throat.. Are you kidding me man? No offense, but this is the reason people call you a "TNA mark" and bash you for it. You can't deny that TNA isn't full of washed up WCW talent. Hell, almost an entire stable consists of them ( Main Event Mafia ). While it's an awesome idea, once the storyline is over... their all gonna go back to main eventing still. Each and every week, i'm expected to believe that a washed up Kevin Nash can physically keep up with and contend with AJ Styles? I mean, c'mon now. BG James, Booker T, Brother Ray, Brother Devon, Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Kip James, Mick Foley Scott Steiner, Sting... all of these guys can barely go in the ring, minus the AJ/Sting match. Which is why we're seeing so many 6-Man Tag and Tag Team matches. It takes a lot of work away from guys like Nash. The do little work, but just enough for it to not be pointless. Even Kurt Angle, at one point, wasn't all that entertaining in the ring. He showed a lot during the Angle/Styles fued. ... and the newest example: Rhino. Who honestly cares about Rhino? Anyone, anyone? Exactly. Rhino was RELEASED by the WWE because he doesn't draw. And now TNA is giving him a title shot and i'm expected to pay money for that? Everyone knows that Sting is going to retain at Genesis. So, why bother poking out the $30, to see the predictable. - Triple S |
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 21:08:13 GMT -5
I've yet to get that feeling of someone being "shoved" down my throat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2008 22:26:32 GMT -5
So , pretty much what your saying is ( and i'm not quoting, or putting words in your mouth ): That you'd rather watch guys like Rhino, Kevin Nash, Sting, Scott Steiner and Booker T main event pay-per-view after pay-per-view with the same crap we saw in WCW... than seeing guys like AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe.
Correct?
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 22:55:03 GMT -5
What the... I never said that nor did I even hint at that. I'm just simply saying I don't get the feeling of them being "shoved down my throat". I don't know where you pulled that from..
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Post by James Hetfield on Dec 29, 2008 23:00:33 GMT -5
Not having washed up guys shoved down your throat, but you constantly see the MEM acting as if they are the nWo.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 23:01:32 GMT -5
But, they're not being shoved down my throat..
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Post by James Hetfield on Dec 29, 2008 23:03:27 GMT -5
hahaha, alright buddy. TNA is great. We know.
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Post by ICW on Dec 29, 2008 23:04:57 GMT -5
Because your a TNA mark, SG. It's funny how people are saying the MEM is being shoved down our throats yet of course you dont feel that way...
TNA! TNA! TNA!
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 29, 2008 23:06:41 GMT -5
Where did I say that? Stop putting words in my mouth - seriously. I'm just saying they're not being shoved down MY throat. I don't know about yours.. and honestly I don't really care. Because your a TNA mark, SG. It's funny how people are saying the MEM is being shoved down our throats yet of course you dont feel that way... TNA! TNA! TNA! Last time I checked I don't have a saddle on so get off my back. |
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