PdW2kX
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Post by PdW2kX on Jan 1, 2009 16:41:28 GMT -5
We couldn't even last a freakin' day? Credit goes to Sherdog---------- UFC lightweight Josh Neer spent the first hours of the new year in a jail cell, after he was arrested for a hit-and-run incident and high-speed chase early Thursday in Des Moines, Iowa. Neer, 25, faces charges of Operating a Vehicle while Intoxicated, hit-and-run, eluding police and other traffic violations, according to Sgt. Jeff Phillips with the Des Moines Police Department. This was Neer’s second OWI offense. Eluding police is a felony charge. Neer allegedly struck two vehicles –- the second of which was a police car -- and then led authorities on a chase that reached speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour. After attempting a PIT maneuver, police reportedly deployed spike strips in an attempt to bring the pursuit to an end. Neer was arrested after blowing a tire and later posted bail. Neer was released at 8:26 a.m. CST from Polk County Jail on $2,000 bond for the OWI and $5,000 for the felony eluding. Neer (24-7-1) is currently scheduled to face Mac Danzig in a lightweight bout at UFC Fight Night 17 on Feb. 7 at the USF Sun Dome in Tampa, Fla. The Miletich Martial Arts fighter’s last appearance was a split decision loss to Nate Diaz at UFC Fight Night 15 in September 2008. Initial attempts to reach a representative for Neer were unsuccessful. Loretta Hunt contributed to this report. Update notice: This article was updated with Neer's bail information at 3:55 p.m. EST. ---------- I can see this costing Neer his job. Clipping a police car, leading them on a 100+ mph car chase, then getting his second OWI? I can definitely see Dana dropping the hammer on him. I was never really a fan or detractor of Neer, but I just can't understand why someone would pull this stupid shit. He just got done main-eventing a freakin' Fight Night. Talk about shooting yourself in the freakin' foot.
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BASTARDKING
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 1, 2009 16:44:12 GMT -5
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, Neer
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jan 1, 2009 18:15:13 GMT -5
Bye bye Josh Neer.
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Post by NYdream™ on Jan 1, 2009 21:20:19 GMT -5
Dont bother me. Never liked Neer
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 2, 2009 0:39:05 GMT -5
This hit & run and high-speed chase stuff sounds awfully familiar...
If it ends up costing Neer his job, then that's a bunch of bullsh*t because Rampage did basically the exact same thing and he's sitting pretty, still employed and still collecting a very nice paycheck.
If Dana White punishes Josh Neer for his actions, then he should do the same for Rampage. Either he does that or he's showing favoritism towards Rampage and that is wrong.
Dana White must be fair to both sides here, since they are both in the same boat.
Since nothing really happened with Rampage, then nothing should happen to Neer. It's only fair, right??
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Post by DWright on Jan 2, 2009 0:43:20 GMT -5
This hit & run and high-speed chase stuff sounds awfully familiar... If it ends up costing Neer his job, then that's a bunch of bullsh*t because Rampage did basically the exact same thing and he's sitting pretty, still employed and still collecting a very nice paycheck. If Dana White punishes Josh Neer for his actions, then he should do the same for Rampage. Either he does that or he's showing favoritism towards Rampage and that is wrong. Dana White must be fair to both sides here, since they are both in the same boat. Since nothing really happened with Rampage, then nothing should happen to Neer. It's only fair, right?? But Josh Neer has a tramp stamp... That alone, should get him fired.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 2, 2009 0:52:06 GMT -5
^ So, it's ok for Rampage do it, but Neer does pretty much the same thing and he should get canned?? If they are going to fire Neer, then fire Rampage too. Only fair. I am not defending Neer at all. It sounds like he was as big of a ing idiot as Rampage, by getting behind the wheel of a vehicle and literally going on a Rampage, causing damage and involved in a high-speed chase with police. I mean, if I did something like that, I know for a fact I'd get immediately fired from my job and would be going to jail. So, my question is why does Rampage do it and he's off the hook and everything is fine?? What a bunch of crap. If UFC let Rampage off the hook, then they should do the same for Neer.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jan 2, 2009 1:00:52 GMT -5
^ So, it's ok for Rampage do it, but Neer does pretty much the same thing and he should get canned?? If they are going to fire Neer, then fire Rampage too. Only fair. Yes, they should be fair and fire both or keep both. But don't forget that Rampage is a much bigger star than Neer. Dana doesn't want to get rid of a star like Page to the competition, but a lower card guy like Neer is probably viewed by Dana as not a loss. In the end, Dana cares about the $$$. Rampage= $$$, Neer doesn't. As sad as that is, that's most likely why Rampage was kept and Neer probably won't be.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 2, 2009 1:12:19 GMT -5
^ So, it's ok for Rampage do it, but Neer does pretty much the same thing and he should get canned?? If they are going to fire Neer, then fire Rampage too. Only fair. Yes, they should be fair and fire both or keep both. But don't forget that Rampage is a much bigger star than Neer. Dana doesn't want to get rid of a star like Page to the competition, but a lower card guy like Neer is probably viewed by Dana as not a loss. In the end, Dana cares about the $$$. Rampage= $$$, Neer doesn't. As sad as that is, that's most likely why Rampage was kept and Neer probably won't be. I know Rampage is a huge star and he = big time $$$, but that shouldn't matter if you get in trouble with the law. The crimes and punishment should go both ways seeing as they did basically the same exact thing. Their star status shouldn't matter one bit if they get in trouble with the law. If they kept Rampage after his stunt, then they'd better keep Neer. Only fair way of doing it.
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Post by Boquest on Jan 2, 2009 1:31:22 GMT -5
I agree 100% that they should treat Neer the same way they did with Rampage, but in all honestly I would be surprised if they did.
Like mentioned before, Rampage creates money. He is a huge star for the UFC and a fan favourite. Who is Josh Neer to the average fan? I know it's not fair, but who honestly is going to tell Dana "uhm, sorry but you can't do that, its not fair." He's in the buisness to make money, which he should be. If one of his athletes is creating a situation which places the UFC in a bad reputation, then he has the ability to get rid of him. Rampage he kept, because he still will make money off him. Fitch got fired over a video game (hired back I know) you dont think Dana would fire him over this?
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jan 2, 2009 1:35:48 GMT -5
Yes, they should be fair and fire both or keep both. But don't forget that Rampage is a much bigger star than Neer. Dana doesn't want to get rid of a star like Page to the competition, but a lower card guy like Neer is probably viewed by Dana as not a loss. In the end, Dana cares about the $$$. Rampage= $$$, Neer doesn't. As sad as that is, that's most likely why Rampage was kept and Neer probably won't be. I know Rampage is a huge star and he = big time $$$, but that shouldn't matter if you get in trouble with the law. The crimes and punishment should go both ways seeing as they did basically the same exact thing. Their star status shouldn't matter one bit if they get in trouble with the law. If they kept Rampage after his stunt, then they'd better keep Neer. Only fair way of doing it. Negative. Rampage never got an OWI. He was not under any alcohol. Plus this is Neer's 2nd time getting an OWI. So obviously he did not learn from his first time around. Bye Bye Neer. ing idiot.
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Post by Codesters on Jan 2, 2009 2:27:21 GMT -5
I know Rampage is a huge star and he = big time $$$, but that shouldn't matter if you get in trouble with the law. The crimes and punishment should go both ways seeing as they did basically the same exact thing. Their star status shouldn't matter one bit if they get in trouble with the law. If they kept Rampage after his stunt, then they'd better keep Neer. Only fair way of doing it. Negative. Rampage never got an OWI. He was not under any alcohol. Plus this is Neer's 2nd time getting an OWI. So obviously he did not learn from his first time around. Bye Bye Neer. ing idiot. Preeching to the choir man.... Like he said Rampage was NOT under the influence of any substance like alcohol. He had mental issues that influenced him, unlike Neer who got drunk and got behind the wheel.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 2, 2009 7:24:48 GMT -5
^ That still shouldn't make Rampage's case any different. He was involved in a few hit & run's, right?? He was involved in a high-speed chase with police, right?? He may not have been under the influence of alcohol, but he did the same thing as Neer and the consequence shouldn't be any different.
You are responsible for your own actions. They both made the decision to get behind the wheel and go for a joyride.
So, in my opinion, since they made that choice, they both must face the penalty no matter what. One's punishment shouldn't be any less than the other.
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Post by becca on Jan 2, 2009 9:55:43 GMT -5
There IS a difference when someone has a repeat OWI, meaning this guy clearly is a habitual drunk driver, versus an isolated incident with Rampage that was heavily affected by mental health problems that are being treated.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 2, 2009 10:09:00 GMT -5
There IS a difference when someone has a repeat OWI, meaning this guy clearly is a habitual drunk driver, versus an isolated incident with Rampage that was heavily affected by mental health problems that are being treated. Oh, quit making excuses for the guy. Everyone keeps defending him for some reason and that's what pisses me off. It's like what he did was ok, but if it happens to someone else not as big of a star as he is, then they should be the ones to get punished. What a load of crap. Talk about being biased and showing favoritsm. They are both ing idiots and should be held accountable for their own friggin' actions.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jan 2, 2009 17:28:38 GMT -5
There IS a difference when someone has a repeat OWI, meaning this guy clearly is a habitual drunk driver, versus an isolated incident with Rampage that was heavily affected by mental health problems that are being treated. Oh, quit making excuses for the guy. Everyone keeps defending him for some reason and that's what pisses me off. It's like what he did was ok, but if it happens to someone else not as big of a star as he is, then they should be the ones to get punished. What a load of crap. Talk about being biased and showing favoritsm. They are both ing idiots and should be held accountable for their own friggin' actions. Neer was under a clear state of mind when he chose to drink. He then went drinking and driving. Then decided to run from the police (for what sounds like quite awhile). And this is also not the first time he has choosen to drink and drive. Rampage was messed up in the head. Took the precribed amount of medication that was prescribed by a doctor. Everyone around him said he didn't seem himself the day before the incident and earlier the day of the incident. He was trying to equal his body out because he said he felt tired. And drank a rockstar. Later when they asked him if he had eaten anything he said "I don't know." and when they asked him if he remembers those 2 days he said "honestly no I don't. I just remember being tired. Like in a dream." I will break it down like this so you understand Neer: Drank alchohol, everyone knows what alchohol does to your body and mind. He chose to do it (again). Rampage: Took medication that was prescribed by a doctor which he didn't know how it was going to affect his mind and body. Did they both mess up? Yes. Was one more of a personal choice? Yes. Was one a repeat offender? Yes.
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Post by Boquest on Jan 2, 2009 17:34:51 GMT -5
I don't like Rampage at all, I hate the un-needed punches to Wandy after their fight and find him annoyingly unfunny. I can't be playing favourites between 2 guys I dont care for. Rampage's mental state during his incident was majorly off. Hell he thought he was God. In a state of mind like that, bad things could happen. Their is a difference between someone who is mentally unstable and a person who drives under the influence for the 2nd time. Loling the tramp stamp comment...
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 4, 2009 11:27:57 GMT -5
^ So, it's ok for Rampage do it, but Neer does pretty much the same thing and he should get canned?? If they are going to fire Neer, then fire Rampage too. Only fair. I am not defending Neer at all. It sounds like he was as big of a ing idiot as Rampage, by getting behind the wheel of a vehicle and literally going on a Rampage, causing damage and involved in a high-speed chase with police. I mean, if I did something like that, I know for a fact I'd get immediately fired from my job and would be going to jail. So, my question is why does Rampage do it and he's off the hook and everything is fine?? What a bunch of crap. If UFC let Rampage off the hook, then they should do the same for Neer. You forget how more marketable the name "Rampage" Jacskson
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 4, 2009 12:35:22 GMT -5
How many ing times do I have to repeat myself here?? If you get in trouble with the law, it shouldn't matter one ing bit how much more famous and marketable you are than the guy lower than you. What kind of bullsh*t is that?? If you do what these two ing morons did, then you should face the consequences no matter what. But it appears that just because he's famous and makes alot of money, that what Rampage did was ok and everything is fine and he shouldn't face any punishment what-so-ever. But if you are the guy lower than him, then he should be fired and yada yada ing yada.. I don't even care anymore. It's quite obvious UFC has already let Rampage off the hook. Now, let's just see what happens in Neer's case.
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Post by NYdream™ on Jan 4, 2009 14:40:42 GMT -5
How many ing times do I have to repeat myself here?? If you get in trouble with the law, it shouldn't matter one ing bit how much more famous and marketable you are than the guy lower than you. What kind of bullsh*t is that?? If you do what these two ing morons did, then you should face the consequences no matter what. But it appears that just because he's famous and makes alot of money, that what Rampage did was ok and everything is fine and he shouldn't face any punishment what-so-ever. But if you are the guy lower than him, then he should be fired and yada yada ing yada.. I don't even care anymore. It's quite obvious UFC has already let Rampage off the hook. Now, let's just see what happens in Neer's case. I understand what your saying, and even though Rampage was mentally unstable and Neer was not. Im sorry to break it to you my friend but the world is not perfect. Rampage wont go to jail weather he deserves it or not> But like everyone else said. Rampage was out of his mind and Neer was just drunk..
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