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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 29, 2007 17:48:00 GMT -5
Fleshy one and Undisputed kid...my point is what exactly did the Cena/HBK match do? What was the purpose of the match? Was a title on the line? Was a title shot on the line? No, both those questions were addressed prior to the match. HBK was not in a title match nor was a #1 contendership on the line as he was slated to be in the 4 way at backlash. It didnt even lead to him winning the title at Backlash which woulda made sense. It was a good "wrestling" match but what the hell was the purpose. What draws me into a match that I just saw at WM...again whats the purpose? This is what it didnt have and this is what kept me disinterested...it was just a match to showcase some moves to me. A match like that shoulda been for a shot at the title ,#1 contender, then if HBK loses, its over, if he wins, it sets up a cena HBk #3 classic,,,then if Cena wins he's beaten shawn 2 outta 3 times...storyline over. You could even have at Backlash, Orton/Edge interfere then on RAw have the fatal fourway...there ya go. Woulda advanced storylines, given matches a purpose, etc! but instead we get an isolated match thats only part of a storyline  ...spells Yawn to me. Contrastly TNA's match had wrestling, run ins, weapons...essentially matches within matches and it was done for a reason...First the title was on the line, second it showcased 3 former champions. Outside of the 3 way, as I said there were matches within the match...anyway, that's whay i thought it was better...it actually gave me areason to watch...and yes I watched the hbk/cena match and was bored to tears The match did have a point! Did you not see the promos Shawn Michaels did after WrestleMania saying that Cena was the better man that night but Shawn knows deep down if they get in the ring again he would be the better man? The purpose of the match was to have Shawn Michaels get the win so each would be 1-1. I'm sure if it wasn't for HBK's injury WWE would have had HBK/Cena III with HBK possibly going over. Unfortunately Shawn's knee that he was suppose to have surgery on leading all the way back to WrestleMania 22 starting bugging him again and he had no choice but to get the surgery. |
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Post by American Phenom on Jun 29, 2007 17:52:17 GMT -5
Undisputed is correct.
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Post by szatowski420 on Jun 29, 2007 22:13:21 GMT -5
I liked that they had that one match take up the whole hour of impact. With the interference going on, it reminded me of the Funk/Sabu/Franchise 3 way dance from 1994. Possibly the best match in tna impact history so far. Best iMPACT match in TNA history? Bull ****. Props to all three men who were in the match for keeping it together for close to an hour straight. I enjoyed Cena vs. Michaels II better though. Well I can't think of any matches that happened on IMPACT that were better than Cage/Angle/Rhyno. Maybe Cena vs HBK was better, but that's wwe, not tna. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 29, 2007 22:35:28 GMT -5
Fleshy one and Undisputed kid...my point is what exactly did the Cena/HBK match do? What was the purpose of the match? Was a title on the line? Was a title shot on the line? No, both those questions were addressed prior to the match. HBK was not in a title match nor was a #1 contendership on the line as he was slated to be in the 4 way at backlash. It didnt even lead to him winning the title at Backlash which woulda made sense. It was a good "wrestling" match but what the hell was the purpose. What draws me into a match that I just saw at WM...again whats the purpose? This is what it didnt have and this is what kept me disinterested...it was just a match to showcase some moves to me. A match like that shoulda been for a shot at the title ,#1 contender, then if HBK loses, its over, if he wins, it sets up a cena HBk #3 classic,,,then if Cena wins he's beaten shawn 2 outta 3 times...storyline over. You could even have at Backlash, Orton/Edge interfere then on RAw have the fatal fourway...there ya go. Woulda advanced storylines, given matches a purpose, etc! but instead we get an isolated match thats only part of a storyline ...spells Yawn to me. Contrastly TNA's match had wrestling, run ins, weapons...essentially matches within matches and it was done for a reason...First the title was on the line, second it showcased 3 former champions. Outside of the 3 way, as I said there were matches within the match...anyway, that's whay i thought it was better...it actually gave me areason to watch...and yes I watched the hbk/cena match and was bored to tears The match did have a point! Did you not see the promos Shawn Michaels did after WrestleMania saying that Cena was the better man that night but Shawn knows deep down if they get in the ring again he would be the better man? The purpose of the match was to have Shawn Michaels get the win so each would be 1-1. I'm sure if it wasn't for HBK's injury WWE would have had HBK/Cena III with HBK possibly going over. Unfortunately Shawn's knee that he was suppose to have surgery on leading all the way back to WrestleMania 22 starting bugging him again and he had no choice but to get the surgery. your point is merely specualtive... So the purpose of the match was to build to something that might happen? so why didnt they have Cena/HBK 3 at backlash? edge vs orton at BL and for the #1 contenders spot...amybe not to make HBK look weak? perhaps they knew HBK was going in for surgery> Anyway, guess i see what ur trying to say, still liked the TNA one better ;D |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 30, 2007 2:56:10 GMT -5
The match did have a point! Did you not see the promos Shawn Michaels did after WrestleMania saying that Cena was the better man that night but Shawn knows deep down if they get in the ring again he would be the better man? The purpose of the match was to have Shawn Michaels get the win so each would be 1-1. I'm sure if it wasn't for HBK's injury WWE would have had HBK/Cena III with HBK possibly going over. Unfortunately Shawn's knee that he was suppose to have surgery on leading all the way back to WrestleMania 22 starting bugging him again and he had no choice but to get the surgery. your point is merely specualtive... So the purpose of the match was to build to something that might happen? so why didnt they have Cena/HBK 3 at backlash? edge vs orton at BL and for the #1 contenders spot...amybe not to make HBK look weak? perhaps they knew HBK was going in for surgery> Anyway, guess i see what ur trying to say, still liked the TNA one better ;D It's not speculation the promos were there. Also what I forgot to mention was that if HBK won that match, which he did he would get a title shot. So there WAS a purpose to the match. The match was suppose to happen the week later but it's been said that the near hour long match between HBK/Cena left HBK's knee in pain which is more than likely why they had Khali destroy the all the RAW main eventers and built toward their next feud. Maybe HBK/Cena III would of happened at Judgment Day maybe not, we'll probably never know but their was a purpose to the match. If HBK won, he would get a future title shot. However like I mentioned his injury prevented that. WWE could go with the whole "I never got my title shot" when HBK comes back but I'm like 99% sure they won't. Instead they will just build toward HBK/Orton. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 30, 2007 7:40:03 GMT -5
your point is merely specualtive... So the purpose of the match was to build to something that might happen? so why didnt they have Cena/HBK 3 at backlash? edge vs orton at BL and for the #1 contenders spot...amybe not to make HBK look weak? perhaps they knew HBK was going in for surgery> Anyway, guess i see what ur trying to say, still liked the TNA one better ;D It's not speculation the promos were there. Also what I forgot to mention was that if HBK won that match, which he did he would get a title shot. So there WAS a purpose to the match. The match was suppose to happen the week later but it's been said that the near hour long match between HBK/Cena left HBK's knee in pain which is more than likely why they had Khali destroy the all the RAW main eventers and built toward their next feud. Maybe HBK/Cena III would of happened at Judgment Day maybe not, we'll probably never know but their was a purpose to the match. If HBK won, he would get a future title shot. However like I mentioned his injury prevented that. WWE could go with the whole "I never got my title shot" when HBK comes back but I'm like 99% sure they won't. Instead they will just build toward HBK/Orton. The speculation part i was refering to was as to whether HBK would get a title shot against Cena by himself that was never mentioned by WWE, it may be implied by us but never mentioned by WWE, at least not to my recollection. which is what I mean that it didnt have purpose. Regardless, its not wortha debate really, I see your perspective, and I just didnt see it that way I guess. Just dont think it was clearly projected thats all. |
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Post by Heresy on Jun 30, 2007 11:25:46 GMT -5
Any show that features Kurt Angle continuously throughout is a damn good show, imo. The match itself was good, although I'm agreeing with the majority and saying this match can't touch HBK/Cena 2. Just too many run-ins breaking the flow of the match and taking the focus off the competitors.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 14:55:56 GMT -5
how many people want team 3d to defend the belts next week against aj styles and daniels. AJ Styles + Christopher Daniels vs Samoe Joe + Kurt Angle and that being all the titles on the line and then joe and angle win the ttt at vic rd 07 and it would be maybe the biggest match ever Hence Daniels interview i have my eyes on the title hence this match just my idea but a dream come true you reckon thats good? Kurt Angle (TNA Champion) & Samoa Joe (X-Division Champion) vs. AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels (TNA Tag Team Champions) looks like it can happen now peeple lol |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 30, 2007 16:38:31 GMT -5
It's not speculation the promos were there. Also what I forgot to mention was that if HBK won that match, which he did he would get a title shot. So there WAS a purpose to the match. The match was suppose to happen the week later but it's been said that the near hour long match between HBK/Cena left HBK's knee in pain which is more than likely why they had Khali destroy the all the RAW main eventers and built toward their next feud. Maybe HBK/Cena III would of happened at Judgment Day maybe not, we'll probably never know but their was a purpose to the match. If HBK won, he would get a future title shot. However like I mentioned his injury prevented that. WWE could go with the whole "I never got my title shot" when HBK comes back but I'm like 99% sure they won't. Instead they will just build toward HBK/Orton. The speculation part i was refering to was as to whether HBK would get a title shot against Cena by himself that was never mentioned by WWE, it may be implied by us but never mentioned by WWE, at least not to my recollection. which is what I mean that it didnt have purpose. Regardless, its not wortha debate really, I see your perspective, and I just didnt see it that way I guess. Just dont think it was clearly projected thats all. It was mentioned HBK would get the title shot the week later. Did you even watch any of these RAW's because right now you aren't making any sense and have no idea what you're talking about. Think before you speak. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 30, 2007 23:43:07 GMT -5
The speculation part i was refering to was as to whether HBK would get a title shot against Cena by himself that was never mentioned by WWE, it may be implied by us but never mentioned by WWE, at least not to my recollection. which is what I mean that it didnt have purpose. Regardless, its not wortha debate really, I see your perspective, and I just didnt see it that way I guess. Just dont think it was clearly projected thats all. It was mentioned HBK would get the title shot the week later. Did you even watch any of these RAW's because right now you aren't making any sense and have no idea what you're talking about. Think before you speak. well, i didnt hear that. I did think before i thought and I dint think i heard that..if that indeed were the case then i retract my statement that it didnt have a purpose...i prob missed it cause half the stuff i dont even pay attention to cause it bores the hell outta me |
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Post by Heresy on Jul 1, 2007 13:28:00 GMT -5
you aren't making any sense and have no idea what you're talking about. No surprise there... |
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Post by FleshyOne on Jul 1, 2007 13:52:28 GMT -5
Best iMPACT match in TNA history? Bull ****. Props to all three men who were in the match for keeping it together for close to an hour straight. I enjoyed Cena vs. Michaels II better though. Well I can't think of any matches that happened on IMPACT that were better than Cage/Angle/Rhyno. Maybe Cena vs HBK was better, but that's wwe, not tna. Shelley vs. Sabin vs. Williams Styles vs. Daniels Storm vs. Harris (No DQ) Joe vs. Christian (Ladder Match) Were all better then the triple threat. |
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 1, 2007 18:37:31 GMT -5
Well I can't think of any matches that happened on IMPACT that were better than Cage/Angle/Rhyno. Maybe Cena vs HBK was better, but that's wwe, not tna. Shelley vs. Sabin vs. Williams Styles vs. Daniels Storm vs. Harris (No DQ) Joe vs. Christian (Ladder Match) Were all better then the triple threat. Joe/Daniels was better than any iMPACT match. |
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Post by deskjet on Jul 1, 2007 23:08:17 GMT -5
you aren't making any sense and have no idea what you're talking about. No surprise there... .l. ;D |
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Post by Iron Man on Jul 5, 2007 19:30:53 GMT -5
Watching iMPACT! for the third time in a row, that must be a record for me.
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 5, 2007 20:03:20 GMT -5
I think Homicide is a better talker than Konnan.
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Post by Iron Man on Jul 5, 2007 20:04:57 GMT -5
I can't stand Homicide on the mic. They NEED Konnan!
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 5, 2007 20:05:16 GMT -5
I just noitched TNA's pads now have a TNA logo on each insted of
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 5, 2007 20:06:09 GMT -5
I can't stand Homicide on the mic. They NEED Konnan! No, they don't. If you need a mouth peice than you'll never improve on the mic. |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 5, 2007 20:08:16 GMT -5
I <3 how they was all brawling all once.
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