*Ricky Spanish*
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Post by *Ricky Spanish* on Feb 3, 2009 17:14:47 GMT -5
IMO I don't like the whole idea that is you powerbomb some through a table they get up.Then you hit the people's elbow 2mins later and the match is over.I was just watching the StarrCade dvd most matchs just end with a brutal move.Roh did this back when i watched it 2002-2005.I mean I don't the match to end with a sudden move all the time but it would be nice for it to happen more often. I.E. wm19 hbk vs y2j
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Post by Wfigs #1 Metal-Head on Feb 3, 2009 17:19:21 GMT -5
I kind of see what you mean. But you've got to think of it like this, the reason why the finisher beats them is because it's a "finisher"
For example: Triple H Vs. HBK (Hell In A Cell) Chair shots, slammed through tables, thrown into cages and smashed with ladders. Both beat up, now Triple H hits the pedigree to finally "finish" him off.
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Post by Rob on Feb 3, 2009 17:20:41 GMT -5
I think that everytime Cena goes for the FU.. I mean the opponent takes all kinds of crap and gets right up but somehow a 4 foot drop can kill them for 3 mins?
Thats why i think WWE is so corny at times.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 3, 2009 17:33:15 GMT -5
The reason that finishers can "kill" wrestling for me isn't that (although it used to really annoy me in the old ECW... Guys would take so much brutal punishment and all sorts of weapons and get up, then get beat by a DDT)... And in the current era, we're seeing less weapons and tables used anyway.
For me, the thing about finishers is that fans don't really get excited about a pin/submission attempt unless it's from a finisher. There are exceptions of course, but most of the time, unless there's at least been a pedigree or swanton or sweet chin music etc attempt, fans know the match isn't ending yet.
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Post by HugoOne on Feb 3, 2009 17:44:03 GMT -5
I think that everytime Cena goes for the FU.. I mean the opponent takes all kinds of crap and gets right up but somehow a 4 foot drop can kill them for 3 mins? Thats why i think WWE is so corny at times. That's the only thing that bugs me about Cena matches, is when they book it like that. It's like old Hogan matches when he was main eventing in the WWF, and why I never cared for him. They get taken pounded on the entire match, but they can come back and hit their finisher out of nowhere like it's be-all-end-all of moves. I like finishing moves but I like them mixed with psychology, which certain Cena matches do have and others don't. Perfect example, Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect at Summerslam '91. The psychology was all on the back of Perfect. He came in hurt, Bret focused on the back, slapped on the Sharpshooter (wrenching back on Perfect's back) and Perfect tapped out right away. I lost my original point. Nevermind. :-D
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Feb 3, 2009 17:53:04 GMT -5
While I understand what you mean, it's just always been that way. For IE jake the snake using the DDT as a finisher as opposed to the myriad of DDT variations we see now that are just sick and yet aren't finishers because they aren't meant to be.
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Post by Keyboard Cat on Feb 3, 2009 18:18:56 GMT -5
For a second a thought this thread was about wrestler who have been killed by a finishing move
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Post by Slay on Feb 3, 2009 19:05:21 GMT -5
If it's something original and LOOKS awesome...I support finishers. Just not like....the super angel fake tits DDT or something stupid like that.
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Feb 3, 2009 19:38:57 GMT -5
I think certain finishers make perfect sence..But i like roll up finishes as well if done correctly..
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Post by S on Feb 3, 2009 20:19:18 GMT -5
When i was younger i thought of finishing moves as the move that person had perfected... such as Jakes DDT, he perfected it so it was near deadly. I wish i was naive again, wrestlng was so much more enjoyable
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Post by King Silva on Feb 3, 2009 22:30:39 GMT -5
Everyone needs to have a good finisher imo.
I don't think that they are bad because how else are you going to win the match most of the times.
I actually hate when some wrestlers always win a match with a rollup.
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Post by "Vintage" HBK Still Rules on Feb 3, 2009 23:56:42 GMT -5
If it's something original and LOOKS awesome...I support finishers. Just not like.... the super angel fake tits DDT or something stupid like that. Well, you could've just called out JBL's Clothesline From Hell. But, eh.
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Post by SMK on Feb 4, 2009 0:33:21 GMT -5
When i was younger i thought of finishing moves as the move that person had perfected... such as Jakes DDT, he perfected it so it was near deadly. I wish i was naive again, wrestlng was so much more enjoyable Bingo. But as for finishers, I never understood why the Stunner was a finishing move.
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Post by Edge618 on Feb 4, 2009 1:51:10 GMT -5
Why do we even watch wrestling?? Why not UFC or MMA?? Because, we want to see them do stuff in the ring that would never happen in an actual fight. We want them to hit that signature elbow drop, or kick, or slam. Arguing that wrestling is'nt realistic enough is an up-hill battle.
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Post by LeighD on Feb 4, 2009 9:24:29 GMT -5
I feel finishers can go either way. When guys like Hogan, Earthquake, Warrior, Roberts, Savage, HBK, Bret, Austin & Rock (Rock Bottom), used their finishers it was great as that was the end. But I think today finishers are too hyped and are a flashier common move. Like Cena's FU is a modified body slam. Umages spike is just dumb (IMO).
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Feb 4, 2009 12:58:22 GMT -5
Can't forget when Triple H decided he wanted to finish people off with a sleeper hold a few years back.
Now THAT should've killed wrestling.
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Post by TurboEddie on Feb 4, 2009 16:42:27 GMT -5
Depends on the finishing move. If it looks painful, okay. If it looks weak, that's what makes it boring.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 4, 2009 17:03:50 GMT -5
If it's something original and LOOKS awesome...I support finishers. Just not like.... the super angel fake tits DDT or something stupid like that. Well, you could've just called out JBL's Clothesline From Hell. But, eh. I'd agree if his lariat was just a lariat. But he has a set up for it and there's no denying that the impact is next to none these days when speaking of lariats. When the babyface is mounting a comeback near the end of a match, thats when you'll see a regular clothesline. Compare that and it's impact to JBL's and you'll see a major difference.
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Feb 4, 2009 18:01:26 GMT -5
I think certain finishers make perfect sence..But i like roll up finishes as well if done correctly.. Funny, i despise roll-up finishes. It just seems so...bulsh*t.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2009 18:07:27 GMT -5
Well, you could've just called out JBL's Clothesline From Hell. But, eh. I'd agree if his lariat was just a lariat. But he has a set up for it and there's no denying that the impact is next to none these days when speaking of lariats. When the babyface is mounting a comeback near the end of a match, thats when you'll see a regular clothesline. Compare that and it's impact to JBL's and you'll see a major difference. both of you are kinda right. i mean a clothesline is lame to have as a finisher, but JBL does his damnedest to make it look good and hurts like hell.
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