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Post by The UndyTaker on Jun 20, 2007 15:35:18 GMT -5
I feel for Jeff, but it was not needed on tv. It helped to get him over. Jeff as a heel with another title run would not go over. That's why they they turned him, and unfortunately this is helping make him face. Unfortunately Jeff as a face sucks too.
They used it to push Jeff. That's why they started showing the interviews last year right as Jeff left when he lost the title. They knew with Kurt coming in and Jeff was not going to be the #1 guy anymore, so they turn Jeff face, and they started it with him and Road Dogg talking about Jeff's wife.
It doesn't matter what Jill did for the company since she didn't have tv time and was not a player on the show. If Kevin Dunn died tomorrow do you think people would be dedicating matches to him or sharing stories about him? No.
Jeff WAS NOT over as a face. He had 10 people cheer for him the last few weeks he was on. No one cared.
The situation is sad, but it's sadder Jeff needs his wife's death to get over.
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Post by comebackkid on Jun 20, 2007 16:26:50 GMT -5
When did i ever say i liked that Vince crap? exactly, shut up. never said you did so you shut your mouth! Why are you bringing up the Vince crap as if im defending it? Unlike you just because i watch WWE doesn't mean i suck its dick as you do so ever lovingly to TNA to the point where people like myself who once had respect for you don't and see you as some tool for a company that isn't even close to competing Prodigy and Soda Guy i can stand as TNA fans because they do put up good points on occasion you on the other hand just give blind bias comments like some mark fanboy, its fans like you that make me NOT like TNA or want to. |
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 20, 2007 17:19:03 GMT -5
I don't mind this Jarrett business. As long as it overdone, I think it's fine. Just keep it in good taste.
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Post by American Phenom on Jun 20, 2007 17:32:59 GMT -5
I feel for Jeff, but it was not needed on tv. It helped to get him over. Jeff as a heel with another title run would not go over. That's why they they turned him, and unfortunately this is helping make him face. Unfortunately Jeff as a face sucks too. They used it to push Jeff. That's why they started showing the interviews last year right as Jeff left when he lost the title. They knew with Kurt coming in and Jeff was not going to be the #1 guy anymore, so they turn Jeff face, and they started it with him and Road Dogg talking about Jeff's wife. It doesn't matter what Jill did for the company since she didn't have tv time and was not a player on the show. If Kevin Dunn died tomorrow do you think people would be dedicating matches to him or sharing stories about him? No. Jeff WAS NOT over as a face. He had 10 people cheer for him the last few weeks he was on. No one cared. The situation is sad, but it's sadder Jeff needs his wife's death to get over. Jarrett was one of the most over guys at Sacrifice so your "10 people" comment doesn't make sense. |
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Post by The UndyTaker on Jun 20, 2007 22:30:25 GMT -5
I feel for Jeff, but it was not needed on tv. It helped to get him over. Jeff as a heel with another title run would not go over. That's why they they turned him, and unfortunately this is helping make him face. Unfortunately Jeff as a face sucks too. They used it to push Jeff. That's why they started showing the interviews last year right as Jeff left when he lost the title. They knew with Kurt coming in and Jeff was not going to be the #1 guy anymore, so they turn Jeff face, and they started it with him and Road Dogg talking about Jeff's wife. It doesn't matter what Jill did for the company since she didn't have tv time and was not a player on the show. If Kevin Dunn died tomorrow do you think people would be dedicating matches to him or sharing stories about him? No. Jeff WAS NOT over as a face. He had 10 people cheer for him the last few weeks he was on. No one cared. The situation is sad, but it's sadder Jeff needs his wife's death to get over. Jarrett was one of the most over guys at Sacrifice so your "10 people" comment doesn't make sense. First, I have no doubt they sweetened the sound of the crowd for Jarrett. Watch when Jeff came back and gave the "5" sign that he was going to be the 5th man on Angle's team, barely anyone cheered. Watch the show after that. Same thing. And if they didn't tell Jeff's backstory before that(about his wife), he would have gotten booed out of the building. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 20, 2007 22:39:43 GMT -5
never said you did so you shut your mouth! Why are you bringing up the Vince crap as if im defending it? Unlike you just because i watch WWE doesn't mean i suck its dick as you do so ever lovingly to TNA to the point where people like myself who once had respect for you don't and see you as some tool for a company that isn't even close to competing Prodigy and Soda Guy i can stand as TNA fans because they do put up good points on occasion you on the other hand just give blind bias comments like some mark fanboy, its fans like you that make me NOT like TNA or want to. Well, if you werent defending the vince thing, then thats my bad but I didnt appreciate your comment on JJ using his wifes death as getting over either nor did I apprecaite you telling me to shut up. Did i say somethin to you in any way or say something rude to you to warrant that kind of response? No...I ask you what your point was for the post..and I get a shut up..then I'm suppose to sit back and take it like a **** ass bitch and not respond. I get the heat for defending myself. But thats the way it is. No one is able to admit there misktakes. And as soon as I say something here comes the personal attacks. It happens constantly on this board and I'm just one person that fights back and so I'm labeled a bad guy. Do you think for one damn minute I give a rats ass what people think about me on here? you know where all the respect from other people on this board got me in life? No damn where? You no where the lack of respect from people on this board is gonna get me in life? That's right not anywhere. I'm not here to win fans I'm here to express my opinion and if I'm in the wrong I'm at least man enough to say I am. But I wont sit back and be berated with personal attacks about a comment not even directed at any members, but rather at a wrestler or for questioning someones viewpoint. Maybe some of you dont understand or dont want to. I'm not trying to cause problems but when someone says something thats a personal assault on me, what i've said, etc. and I've done nothing personally to that person to elicit that response, then you're  in right, there's gonna be trouble. Before people start deciding to comment, check your comments and how and to whom they are directed next time. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 20, 2007 22:52:29 GMT -5
you on the other hand just give blind bias comments like some mark fanboy, its fans like you that make me NOT like TNA or want to. Maybe now you can understand what fuels my fire |
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Post by W¡LDCARD on Jun 21, 2007 0:09:31 GMT -5
They used it to push Jeff. That's why they started showing the interviews last year right as Jeff left when he lost the title. They knew with Kurt coming in and Jeff was not going to be the #1 guy anymore, so they turn Jeff face, and they started it with him and Road Dogg talking about Jeff's wife. Jarrett didn't mention a damn thing about his wife last fall. Neither did BG James; he just said that Jarrett is a damn good man. It doesn't matter what Jill did for the company since she didn't have tv time and was not a player on the show. If Kevin Dunn died tomorrow do you think people would be dedicating matches to him or sharing stories about him? No. Maybe not dedicating matches since... yeah, but a static image would probably be shown on TV as well as coverage on WWE.com. The commentators are likely to mention the passing on the air, and yes maybe a little 1 minute video package of people sharing their thoughts would probably be shown. Dunn is an acting WWE executive producer after all, and he's been with the company for decades. Jarrett was one of the most over guys at Sacrifice so your "10 people" comment doesn't make sense. First, I have no doubt they sweetened the sound of the crowd for Jarrett. Watch when Jeff came back and gave the "5" sign that he was going to be the 5th man on Angle's team, barely anyone cheered. Watch the show after that. Same thing. They didn't pop for the 5 sign because the crowd just f'n popped for the guitar shot. And if they did throw in some canned cheers, its not like it's anything new to wrestling. I don't mind the video and mention of Jarrett's wife at Slammiversary. If he does decide to mention her on TV a couple of times from now, I wouldn't mind that either. It'd be coming from the heart and in all likelihood, he is using wife and kids as inspiration to do better. Now if they start shoving it down our throats for months on end, that's a different story... |
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Post by cjtwba on Jun 22, 2007 7:01:26 GMT -5
Your theory like the rest of your comments suck you suck the TNA penish too hard. calm down. =/ TNA sucks, so I dont watch it anymore, therefore I didnt see said speech so I cant comment on it. But from what im reading I dont see anything wrong with what JJ did. if it sucks why are you ing posting on here then jackass |
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Post by moogie101 on Jun 22, 2007 10:42:36 GMT -5
I'm not a Jeff Jarrett fan, but I thought the segment was a classy touch to a woman who was a backstage driving force behind TNA especially in the early days.
I found it an emotional moment & comparing it to the Vince Is Dead angle is what I find to be disgusting.
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Post by The UndyTaker on Jun 22, 2007 14:38:57 GMT -5
They used it to push Jeff. That's why they started showing the interviews last year right as Jeff left when he lost the title. They knew with Kurt coming in and Jeff was not going to be the #1 guy anymore, so they turn Jeff face, and they started it with him and Road Dogg talking about Jeff's wife. Jarrett didn't mention a damn thing about his wife last fall. Neither did BG James; he just said that Jarrett is a damn good man. First off, why have a heel(BG James) talk about Jeff being a good man? That made no sense. And I do think that he mentioned Jeff's wife being sick. Maybe not dedicating matches since... yeah, but a static image would probably be shown on TV as well as coverage on WWE.com. The commentators are likely to mention the passing on the air, and yes maybe a little 1 minute video package of people sharing their thoughts would probably be shown. Dunn is an acting WWE executive producer after all, and he's been with the company for decades. I think that's wrong. He was not an on-air personality. So he shouldn't get any videos. I think they might have a graphic or JR would mention it, but nothing like they did for Jeff and his late wife. First, I have no doubt they sweetened the sound of the crowd for Jarrett. Watch when Jeff came back and gave the "5" sign that he was going to be the 5th man on Angle's team, barely anyone cheered. Watch the show after that. Same thing. They didn't pop for the 5 sign because the crowd just f'n popped for the guitar shot. And if they did throw in some canned cheers, its not like it's anything new to wrestling. If they canned the crowd, that throws off the theory that he was a face and the crowd accepted it. And watching that video, the only people that popped were the marks in front. I don't mind the video and mention of Jarrett's wife at Slammiversary. If he does decide to mention her on TV a couple of times from now, I wouldn't mind that either. It'd be coming from the heart and in all likelihood, he is using wife and kids as inspiration to do better. Now if they start shoving it down our throats for months on end, that's a different story... They will go on. You know when he comes back it will be all about him dealing with the passing, how hard it was for him to come back, blah blah. I don't like it at all. It's a shame. |
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Jun 24, 2007 2:55:50 GMT -5
i find it hilarious how the indy smarks have a kidney stone over the vince mcmahon angle. i'm sure he is laughing too.
get over it. it is a soap opera storyline, you guys sound rediculous going on rants about vince being "disrespectful to eddie and owen."
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Post by gruff on Jun 24, 2007 11:39:02 GMT -5
When Jarrett came back and showed up the 5 sign as he walked away the building went nuts, when he helped Eric Young the fans loved him he was over, he was very OVER!
The WWE angle with Vince isnt in my mind bad taste but it has caused problems regarding recent wrestling deaths.
Yes Jill Jarrett wasnt on tv, she didnt need to be on TV but what she did at home and backstage was incredible, i've heard lots of stories from different wrestlers (Jerry Lawler, Brian Christopher, BG James and the rest of the Armstrongs to name a few, heck even Owen Hart) about the kindness and hospitality she showed wrestlers.
She didnt need to be a wrestler or on air talent, neither did Helen Hart yet people paid tribute to them. FFS Survivor Series '90 Bret Hart dedicated the match to one of his non wrestling brothers and people were respectfull!
There are very very few wrestlers who have been married just the once and the Jarretts have been married for many many many years truly something greater than any world title winning accomplishment.
TNA fans arnt casual fans, just like the ECW faithful they know what goes on backstage and are vocal about it and Jeff Jarretts little tribute sunday was his way of saying thankyou.
For those of you thinking that he's using it for a world title run are very shallow. Flame me all you want but a little respect for the man who's lost his wife and for the 3 young children who have lost their mom.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 25, 2007 14:13:26 GMT -5
All that needed to be said is that Jeff couldn't wrestle due to personal issues, at the msot say his wife passed. Using that video package was a sick attempt at TNA getting him over, I mean how do you boo the man now? Can you honestly say that TNA didn't use the video package to get Jeff over?
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Post by comebackkid on Jun 25, 2007 14:14:55 GMT -5
Glad they showed the package again on Impact incase we didn't feel bad enough for him the first time it showed
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