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Post by waylon on Jun 20, 2007 21:34:21 GMT -5
It wouldn't matter to me. If two wrestlers can put on an entertaining match, I don't care how much sides the ring has. And most wrestling fans will agree. no they wouldnt. they would prefer a 4 sided ring because thats the traditional style that they are more then likely used to. the 6 sided ring is idiotic and pointless. Wait, let me get this straight. You are telling us what we would prefer? Please, speak for yourself. Like mentioned above. It doesn't  ing matter. As long as the match is good, I don't give a shit. |
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Jun 20, 2007 23:34:52 GMT -5
gimme a break.
a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree"
oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you.
TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero..
his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE
he killed his show.
and maybe thats why he's a nobody now.
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Post by Eyce on Jun 20, 2007 23:59:04 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. At least people watched WCW. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 21, 2007 0:00:54 GMT -5
Bischoff is right. TNA thinks everytime they get an ex WWE guy that things will turn around for them and they are still in the same place. Yet they still continue to push Angle, Christian, Sting, Tomko, & Team 3D over Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Abyss, Christopher Daniels, & LAX.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 0:02:00 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. Hell, Im a TNA fan and I agree. Bischoff knows how to run a wrestling company. His company ran toe to toe with WWE. TNA has yet to gain even close to the amount WCW has. They are focusing to much on trying to out do WWE, instead of building a wrestling company. |
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Post by WOOOOOOO!! on Jun 21, 2007 1:37:37 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. Im far from a "WWE mark", BUT, you have no idea what you are talking about as far as WCW and Bischoff goes. He wasnt innocent by any means, but he didnt run WCW out of business. He would've given credit where credit was due, but there isnt any credit to be given. For all of the good things TNA has done to further and differentiate themselves from the WWE, they have taken twice as many steps back and made themselves no different than their competition. Storyline's be damned. Bischoff told it like is. Deal with it. ROFLMFAO!!!!!! "He raided talent"!!! Welcome to the wrestling world. Every brand at one point or another "raided" talent from one brand or another. Vince did it, Bischoff did it, and TNA did it...hell, half of TNA's roster were with some other brand. But I guess the Dudleys, Rhino, Tomko, Christian, Kurt Angle, Sting, Nash, Killings, Shamrock, Sabu, Zack Gowan, Rick and Scott Steiner, Kip and BG James, Jim Cornette, Christ Hemmey, Gail Kim, Mike Tennay, Borash, feel free to add more...and so forth, were all homegrown TNA talent, right? Everybody came from somewhere dude. Hell, even Styles and Daniels started in WCW. But where in ROH before TNA.. Your point is moot. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Jun 21, 2007 4:16:25 GMT -5
no they wouldnt. they would prefer a 4 sided ring because thats the traditional style that they are more then likely used to. the 6 sided ring is idiotic and pointless. Wait, let me get this straight. You are telling us what we would prefer? Please, speak for yourself. Like mentioned above. It doesn't ing matter. As long as the match is good, I don't give a ****. yeah, SO many people think like you. thats why TNA is so big, and SO many people just kill themselves to watch it.  It DOES matter to most. Just because it doesnt matter to you doesnt mean anything. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Jun 21, 2007 4:20:26 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. I bet you most people in here dont even like WWE. Your a real genius. WCW was a large company that almost put WWE out of business thanks to Bishoff. TNA isnt a tenth of what WCW was thanks to Bishoff. And if you think hes the reason it went out of bsiness you have no right to speak anymore. ROFL @ half the TNA roster being talent that was established in OTHER feds. |
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Post by szatowski420 on Jun 21, 2007 8:20:48 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I agree. Despite having a bit of star power, TNA isn't setting the wrestling world on fire. I still think their product is better than wwe though.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jun 21, 2007 12:26:22 GMT -5
So your saying KOTM sucks? Yeah, and so does that reverse battle royal **** they do. Ok, give me one example of KOTM sucking. I mean if you watch the first 3 KOTM matches, they were all top notch. Sure the one that just happened last Sunday wasn't as good as the others but it sure wasn't a bad match. Oh and that reverse battle royal crapwas one time, it's not like they do it every single week. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 21, 2007 13:29:01 GMT -5
I'm not sure what bischoff means by it. to some degree things havent worked out but at least they've tried. I think for starters they need 2 hours. that and perhaps a bit better storylines with some yournger talent being pushed and they could be on to something
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Post by clarkey1990 on Jun 21, 2007 13:37:03 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. I bet you most people in here dont even like WWE. Your a real genius. WCW was a large company that almost put WWE out of business thanks to Bishoff. TNA isnt a tenth of what WCW was thanks to Bishoff. And if you think hes the reason it went out of bsiness you have no right to speak anymore. ROFL @ half the TNA roster being talent that was established in OTHER feds. Amen..... |
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Post by Gene on Jun 21, 2007 13:55:08 GMT -5
I like and watch TNA, but I agree with most of what he said. I thought Kurt Angle would turn TNA around and he did, but sadly it was a turn for the worse. He came across as a bitter, moaning idiot, and lost a lot of respect from fans.
What kind of wrestler says "TNA fans are better than WWE fans" when it was the WWE fans that payed his wage for 7 years.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 21, 2007 20:16:07 GMT -5
So your saying KOTM sucks? Yeah, and so does that reverse battle royal **** they do. And let's not forget the Prison Yard match, which is sorta kinda like a reverse street fight combined with your usual "containment match" formula. |
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Post by taker1 on Jun 22, 2007 12:18:01 GMT -5
gimme a break. a bunch of WWE marks flood the thread with "I agree" oh man, you guys sound so smart now, kudo's for you. TNA has grown so much, What the hell did Eric do? bring WCW into the ground...his shows were TERRIBLE, NWO every single match...EVERY match..bringing in Hogan, Scott Hall, Nash, Jeff Jerrette, Dean Malenko, Y2J, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero.. his list goes ON AND ON AND ON...he RAIDED talent to make his show better..not much changed until his roster became a WWE/ECW roster..which means he took so many guys and brought them in to make a WCW version of ECW/WWE he killed his show. and maybe thats why he's a nobody now. good god i don't even know where to start.. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jun 22, 2007 13:08:02 GMT -5
Yeah, and so does that reverse battle royal **** they do. Ok, give me one example of KOTM sucking. I mean if you watch the first 3 KOTM matches, they were all top notch. Sure the one that just happened last Sunday wasn't as good as the others but it sure wasn't a bad match. Oh and that reverse battle royal **** was one time, it's not like they do it every single week. No not the matches, the ideas of them. I've seen every KOTM and I stoll cant figure out, why the would you hang the title back up? It's a reverse ladder match and it makes no sense. Almost as no sense as a Lethal losing the X title less than a week that he won it. To TNA their idea of "being different" is doing everything in reverse. "What about the elimination chamber?" "OH! All 6 guys start out, then when one gets pinned he gets put in a chamber. Once 4 guys are in the chamber every 2 minutes we release one and one of the two left goes in that chamber if tagged." That seriously is what a TNA "creative" meeting plays like in my head. Just someone going off with an asinine idea based on a WWE idea. |
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Jun 22, 2007 14:08:55 GMT -5
The only reason Eric was successful with WCW was because he had money...Ted Turner had money. A never ending supply lol, they could go to huge arena's and they had big names.
when TNA goes to a big area and shows that they have big names on the card they sell out..
Bound For Glory
Lockdown
Slammiversary
if TNA had alot of money, they would be all over the place and would have a two hour time slot.
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Post by Mark on Jun 22, 2007 14:13:36 GMT -5
well Punch me in the ace and call me susie, i thought TNA had a HUGE money backing
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Post by taker1 on Jun 22, 2007 16:19:09 GMT -5
The only reason Eric was successful with WCW was because he had money...Ted Turner had money. A never ending supply lol, they could go to huge arena's and they had big names. when TNA goes to a big area and shows that they have big names on the card they sell out.. Bound For Glory Lockdown Slammiversary if TNA had alot of money, they would be all over the place and would have a two hour time slot. and TNA doesn't have lots of money and big names? Admit it- Bischoff is right. There's something missing in TNA. They're not properly pushing their homegrown talent and until they do, they'll never be successful. |
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Post by GreatJunta36 on Jun 22, 2007 19:22:22 GMT -5
Bischoff nailed it so perfectly. Fact of the matter is (and I'm speaking for myself too) that we're all morons when it comes to building a successful business. Bischoff's in the entertainment game. He sees what he has in front of him and dissects and rearranges it til it becomes something that innovates but doesn't discriminate. What's that mean? He made WCW which was bleeding money and made it almost destroy the untouchable WWE... and he didn't lose any of his die-hard core audience. He brought new ones in that to this day haven't left.
He's got more authority than most people to say that TNA'll never succeed until they "get it"
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