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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 11:59:35 GMT -5
I think it was on the HBK DVD when someone said "Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan, because of the way Hulk Hogan does business"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 12:05:26 GMT -5
I already knew all of that. Doesn't matter really. While I wasn't a big fan of the Hulk character, the blame here lies with Vince, Bischoff, and others who let him get away with this sort of behavior. Just like in any workplace, you give someone that much power, and let them get away with things like that, can you really blame them for taking advantage? I swear, people act like being a wrestler is the equivalent of representing your country in the Olympics. That you should do it for only the love and passion, and not for money or a career. It's a job. Hogan was able to angle himself into being the most important man in wrestling history. I can't be too mad at someone smart enough to do that. Adolf Hitler prevailed in the world of cut throat dictatorial politics, working his way to the top - takes a smart man to do that. Should we not be mad at him? Yes, yes, Hulk Hogan is a little different from Adolf Hitler, but just noting that sometimes basic concepts carry over to larger levels.
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Post by carly1988 on Mar 10, 2009 12:09:39 GMT -5
So basically Hulk Hogan was the biggest draw in wrestling and he and Vince knew that so they made sure he was always the top draw so they both could make the most money.......
Sounds like smart business to me......I still respect Hogan
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Post by rockbottom42385 on Mar 10, 2009 12:09:53 GMT -5
Yeah I still like Hogan. I don't care about backstage antics.
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Post by rockbottom42385 on Mar 10, 2009 12:11:51 GMT -5
So basically Hulk Hogan was the biggest draw in wrestling and he and Vince knew that so they made sure he was always the top draw so they both could make the most money....... Sounds like smart business to me......I still respect Hogan My sentiments exactly. If we're going to talk about that, HBK was known for doing similar tactics as well, but who cares because he is great in the ring as well, of course that was in the 90's when he was like that, but every wrestler that is big in some aspects I am sure does similar business with Vince McMahon.
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Post by carly1988 on Mar 10, 2009 12:15:56 GMT -5
So basically Hulk Hogan was the biggest draw in wrestling and he and Vince knew that so they made sure he was always the top draw so they both could make the most money....... Sounds like smart business to me......I still respect Hogan My sentiments exactly. If we're going to talk about that, HBK was known for doing similar tactics as well, but who cares because he is great in the ring as well, of course that was in the 90's when he was like that, but every wrestler that is big in some aspects I am sure does similar business with Vince McMahon. The thing that hurts Michaels compared to Hogan, Austin and Cena is that in ring talent, he is arguably better then all of them, however his drawing power was nowhere near those three.
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Post by layton on Mar 10, 2009 12:21:23 GMT -5
HAHAHA, you do realize as an HBK fan Hulkmaniac's can compile a much larger list of what Michael's has done. Just not worth the time of day BROTHER!!! The difference is HBK does not deny it. He admits his faults. Hulk believes he is perfect. Very true, and HBK was young and very talented. He had an awful attitude. He grew up, though. He matured, and does not do things like that anymore. He admits that he was difficult to work with in the past, and Hogan does not. Hogan is STILL doing crap like this, and he is old. HBK has one hundred times the skill now at 43 years old than Hogan ever had. I have said it before, and I will say it again, HBK is a changed man. A man I respect. I doubt I will ever say that about Hogan.
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Post by I LIKE BIG BUTTS on Mar 10, 2009 12:39:21 GMT -5
I haven't respected him in about 12 years.
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Post by dmkp0wer on Mar 10, 2009 12:44:36 GMT -5
Youtube Shawn's segment the day after Summerslam 2005. Thats Hogan. Took his paycheck and went home. 'Nuff said.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 10, 2009 12:47:27 GMT -5
I don't respect Hogan all that much. He always did what was best for him and while that is all good and find once in a while you have to do what is good for the business. Look at Flair. The guy looked out for himself but also would put over any and anyone and made them look good. He realized he wouldn't always be a star and helped set the way for others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 13:03:53 GMT -5
When the NWO angle began to lose serious steam, Hogan turned face again. Randy Savage had recently turned heel and regained the WCW World Heavyweight Title. Once again, this time conveniently as a face, Hogan defeated Savage to regain the title. Despite having names like Hart, Luger and Sting to work with Savage - the title went back to Hogan. At his request. When in 1999 did Hogan/Savage happen? I dont remeber this whatsoever. ![???](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/huh.gif)
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Post by Raw is DanHBK on Mar 10, 2009 13:04:37 GMT -5
It really sucks that he agreed to put HBK over in a rematch and then didnt, im a big fan of the Hogan character but as a guy he is a bit of an arse
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Mar 10, 2009 13:13:11 GMT -5
I don't respect Hogan all that much. He always did what was best for him and while that is all good and find once in a while you have to do what is good for the business. Look at Flair. The guy looked out for himself but also would put over any and anyone and made them look good. He realized he wouldn't always be a star and helped set the way for others. But to be fair he looks back (in dvds) and questions alot of those matches that he jobbed out. Vince McMahon made Hogan. Hogan made himself stay relevent. I see no fault in that. He didn't (and isn't) a broken down old wrestler with nothing. Even after a bad divorce Hogan still has enough money to live forever. But if he is feeling low he can come back for one match, and that is because of the stuff he has down throughout his career. Look at it this way Ricky Steamboat comes out looking old broken down a bit. And he was one of the best workers in wrestling history. Then look at Hogan. Had a t.v. show. Attends hollywood things. Celebrities are wanting to meet him. Has enough money to put Brooke in that condo in Florida. That is because he did crazy stuff throughout his career. Some may have not worked out. But for the most part he (I think) did what was right for the WWF at the time.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Mar 10, 2009 13:40:16 GMT -5
During the feud with either Shawn or Orton, Hogan also claimed he couldn't do the rematch, because he "broke" his meniscus. The meniscus is a muscle. You can't break a muscle.
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Post by zigglerfan on Mar 10, 2009 13:50:44 GMT -5
Who honestly cares? I see a crapload of people always complaining about how he never jobs, thats what makes it so great. He wouldn't be Hulk Hogan if he was jobbing to people like Randy Orton, who was only half established at that time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 13:51:04 GMT -5
I think it was on the HBK DVD when someone said "Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan, because of the way Hulk Hogan does business" thats pretty well said. The Orange Skinned one has kept himself on top to the benefit and detriment of WWF and WCW. the Mega Powers storyline was definately to the benefit of WWE..... his refusal to Job to Sting cleanly vis submission hurt WCW BAD.....and The Fingerpoke of Doom was the FIRST nail in WCWs coffin.......they NEVER recovered after that
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Post by k5 on Mar 10, 2009 13:55:36 GMT -5
goddamit, not another hogan thread.
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Post by geroge86 on Mar 10, 2009 16:16:23 GMT -5
as a little kid I was a Hulkamaniac but once he went to WCW I stopped liking him he's done alot for the business but refusing to put over certain talent is unprofessional you should do as your told and respect the other performers, I know he's had things rough lately like his divorce and Nick going to jail and Brooke's music career not doing well but to be the way he is isn't fair to other guys that had to work harder than him to get where they are to just be buried. He won't be wrestling at Wrestlemania 25 because of recent back surgery and I highly doubt he'll get another WWE run but maybe some matches here and there but hopefully he'll be willing to put over whoever they tell him to
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 16:40:15 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, a very interesting read.
Good thing I have never respected Hogan, let alone liked him.
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Post by MRR on Mar 10, 2009 16:45:12 GMT -5
Hogan is the man, plain and simple. I think Edge said it best in Hogan's HOF Video when he stated that Hogan is probably responsible for half of the wrestlers in the locker room becoming wrestlers.
We only hear these types of things when Hogan is on good terms with the company. Since Triple H and Shawn are huge Flair fans, we will always hear the Flair fans.... but the Hogan fans and respect are only showcased when he is on terms with the company.
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