Official TNA iMPACT! Thread - Quarter 2 2009

For the last time... I didn't say that anything was wrong with it. I was simply stating a fact and wondered if anybody else saw it.

You guys are all freaking out because I said something that could be taken as bad. I do like that you are standing up for your favorite federation but, not everything that we can say is bad or should be taken as bad. I never said that TNA sucks or you know... something like "Oh wow, AJ Styles needs to have his lines read to him, he can't wrestle and will never make the company better." I didn't say anything bad about TNA but some of you are taking it that way. That's not what I meant. I was just asking if somebody else saw it.

well you may have taken some uncessary heat for what a few clueless people decided to expound on only showing their ignorance. Point is it wasnt a wrestler reading a script to another wrestler, and if it was it wouldnt have been done so blatantly.

I haven't seen Impact in like 2 weeks...how long has Angle been trying to grow all his hair back? It looks horrible, beard included. He looks like he wants to be an Anderson when he grows up.

I reallly, really welcome an intelligent debate with you about this. MAtch lengths have and will be the same until tna gets more time. I still have yet to understand how people can sit through 20 minutes of arm holds and knee drops. The matches were fine, they set up storylines for next week and did their job telling the story. moreover, traditionally the show after the ppv is the setup show so they are gonna have more promos and new matches for new storylines. I for one thought the show was great and accomplished bridging the gap betwwen the last ppv and the road to the next one. I really wonder what people want in wrestling. One week its the greatest thing, the next it sux. why not look at the development of things instead of always the here and now. there is a certain psychology to wrestling that should be taken into consideration that i think very few people apprecaite anymore. to me everything on the show was purposeful to get to the next point. It;s when it's purposesless and just thrown togehter like trump buying Raw ...that the shows suck, imo.

your whole argument is based strictly around your opinion of what you want to see. Basically I'm hearing that if the x divsion guys were out there the show woulda been better. So it really doesnt matter the match quality as long as the x guys were out there. So in essence you sacrifice good storyline advancement for your "favorite" wrestlers to be seen...at tleast thats what I'm understanding. I think you opening sentence qualifies this assumption. Again, the whole point of thes show was to advance and set up storylines for the next ppv. what purpose woulda jay lethal vs Amazing red for 30 mnutes had served for this program(two guys putting on a good match for no reason). So you've alloted 30 minutes of wasted time instead of using that time to develop future storylines. Hey, we can do the lethal/red match next week, but this week has and mostly always is the fallout from the last ppv and the set up to the next. That doesnt make it a bad show it makes it a purposeful show. Same reason for the match selections. You may not like Steiners ring work or how long the match went, but the point is, it had a purpose, it did what it was supposed to do. Furthermore TNA is trying to give us new matches instead of the same thing week after week. Yes they have a history of repetiton but MVP vs Hardy for 30 minutes? With what on the line? Unless you're a fan of both then what's the point? HHH vs Orton...for the umpteenth time? Yeah if your a fan of both, but the everyday fan I bet gets sick of seeing that. Again i'll stand by the time issue with TNA not having longer matches. they dont have the luxury of 3 shows to expand things and they are trying to pack alot in two hours which is hit or miss. ANd you gotta give them time to get other guys in there like the x guys, raven, etc...im sure they'll be back in the next few weeks. Raw had a non commercail specail and we got a pointless diva tag team match, skits of mcmahon riding piggy back, endless plugs for chicken, donald trump and vince verbally sparring back and forth, Cena and Miz doing the same thing they've been doing for 2 months. HHH and Orton doing the smae thing for two months, and santina getting fired. where were the fresh storylines, what was it building towards other than what we already knew was gonna happen a month ago? did you forsee MEM getting Joe, or steiner/book in the tag picture? I know i didnt. you complain about the promos and match qualities on tna yet you call RAW better? sorry i dont see it.

thanks SG. two more things I wanted to point out. I would agree to some degree the use of "hey look at Foley vs jarret" promos can be excessive but again, it purposeful and sets up feuds, although there are moments when its a bit overkill. however, again as i and SG said TNA is working with limited time. they dont have the luxury of 6 hours a week and the foundation of WWE commercial ties. I mean they do the best with what they have. And the ratings thing...ugggh, dont get me started. the ratings only mean something to people that have the nielsen ratings boxes in their homes. by admission yourself Triple S , you said tna has had better shows. Have the ratings gone up? No. Thats my point. I mean that trainwresck of a RAW got 4.plus ratings. Your're telling me that many people now all of a sudden think Raw is good becasue of trump?. ratings are so flawed its not even funny. I'll tell ya what myself and alot of other people saw this past week as good and bad wrestling: good-Smack down( 3.?), TNA(1.?)....bad-Raw(4.?). Now explain to me again what the ratings actually rate?

I enjoyed iMPACT! this week.

I was disappointed with the actual wrestling, but thought that the storyline progression was worth a 'dud' episode in terms of in-ring.

- I enjoyed Robert Roode doing the "BEER...MONEY" thing with the crowd.

I Honestly LOVED the last segmeant on iMPACT!

It was just Tension with Nash/Sting and It was Awesome

Ugh, i'm not even going to try to reason with a bunch of TNA marks... the Abyss/Nash match was great? Are you kidding me, the match was slow and boring. Nobody cares about Nash anymore and Abyss is a modern day Kane/Mick Foley... which he's always been.

EDIT: And of course my reasoning is about MY OPINION, so is your's. You claim this week's iMPACT!

Deskjet: I honestly stopped reading your response a good 3 sentences in, since you didn't catch the whole point of my post. The point was rather than using the talent people actually CARE about, they used the ones people don't. And i'm sorry. but for a wrestling show to focus strictly on A "storyline" is a complete joke. Storylines can be built within minutes, not 2 hours. TNA is wasting time with these promos and storylines, rather than giving the viewers wrestling. TNA is a complete joke ( as of this week ) and better change things around, or people will turn.

EDIT: And of course my reasoning is about MY OPINION, so is your's. You claim this week's iMPACT! was "purposeful", many would disagree. It's all opinion, always will be. Thats what a debate is, the difference of opinions. Haha.

And SG, your hour debate doesn't work in the slightest bit. I didn't compare the WWE to TNA as a whole. I compared RAW to iMPACT!, which normally iMPACT! is TONS better. However, this week's RAW was superior to this week's iMPACT!. Then I compared SmackDown! to iMPACT!, which of course the rating for SmackDown! is going to be low, it's on Fridays at 8pm Eastern. Not too many people are home at that time, to watch it.

EDIT: While it doesn't matter WHAT Daniels did, he was on the show ( which I somehow forgot ).

- Triple S