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Post by man on Apr 21, 2009 11:44:54 GMT -5
This topic has come up before, and there seems to be some argument about the "best era" in wrestling. Now, I'm definitely a big fan of the classic stuff, but how can anything compete against the 90's? It was BY FAR the best decade in wrestling! And the reason for that is because it had more trends and "big things" then the 80's or even this decade.
Think about it... what really defines the 80's? Hulkamania. Period! It was HUGE! But it was really the only "big thing". Everything, including the birth of the PPV was built on it.
Now, the 90's was a different story. We started off with The New Generation... granted that wasn't really that big. But then we got the The Monday Night Wars, the NWO, and the Attitude Era!
So really, the 90's were the best era because of the greater number of "big things" happening. I can't see a counter argument to this.
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Post by nirvanacobain on Apr 21, 2009 11:54:21 GMT -5
the talent pool in the 80s cant be topped.
hennig
rude
hennig rude
steamboat
savage
hart foundation
rockers
just because some storylines in the 90s were good doesent make it the better decade, the 80s provided better quality wrestling matches imo. i would take steamboat vs savage over the nwo doing the same crap every monday anyday.
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Post by man on Apr 21, 2009 14:06:54 GMT -5
I would take Sting vs Flair over Steamboat/Savage. I would take the NWO over Hulkamania. LOL Further, the guys you listed were there in the 90's too, and in good capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2009 14:49:24 GMT -5
SOME guys will say the 80's because they think it makes them look more intellectual. And some others will say whichever decade they grew up in.It's always been like that. I started watching in the 90's so I'm automatically excluded from judging though. Monday Night Wars was definitely a fun time to be a wrestling fan. Let's see if the "my penis is bigger cause I started watching before you" crowd agree with me... the talent pool in the 80s cant be topped. hennig rude hennig rude steamboat savage hart foundation rockers just because some storylines in the 90s were good doesent make it the better decade, the 80s provided better quality wrestling matches imo. i would take steamboat vs savage over the nwo doing the same **** every monday anyday. Bret Hart/Owen Hart(Wrestlemania 10) Bret Hart/Steve Austin(Survivor Series&Wrestlemania 13) Eddie Guerrero/Rey Mysterio(Halloween Havoc) I would take Sting vs Flair over Steamboat/Savage. I would take the NWO over Hulkamania. LOL Further, the guys you listed were there in the 90's too, and in good capacity.Exactly. |
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 21, 2009 15:33:02 GMT -5
Its very simple really. The 90s sold more and was bigger financially then the 80s. Nobody can or will deny that but the key is fan base. The typical fan is the 80s is STILL a wrestling fan. If not they were still a fan in the 90s. The average 90s fan is no longer a fan. The Attitude Era fan base was mainly a bandwagon fan base. Did some stay on that bandwagon? Of course but when wrestling became "not cool" they stopped watching. Wrestling wasnt "cool" in the 80s either but we watched it the entire time. This is why I always say the 80s were better because they had the entertainment, athletes and the true fans of wrestling.
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Post by Greensborohill on Apr 21, 2009 15:39:44 GMT -5
Chris Benoit killed it in the 90's
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Apr 21, 2009 17:02:51 GMT -5
If you ask me, I'd rather see those old school feuds and larger-than-life characters cutting promos on one another from local venue to venue. Those must have been the good old days.
I was an avid watcher from 1992 onward, and I can say without doubt since seeing old footage and all those legendary performers in their prime, that wrestling had a deeper connection with its audience then than they did in the '90s when they were making money. Smaller venues, more room to run around in the territories, meaning more opportunities to see your favorite stars.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2009 17:54:44 GMT -5
If you ask me, I'd rather see those old school feuds and larger-than-life characters cutting promos on one another from local venue to venue. Those must have been the good old days. I was an avid watcher from 1992 onward, and I can say without doubt since seeing old footage and all those legendary performers in their prime, that wrestling had a deeper connection with its audience then than they did in the '90s when they were making money. Smaller venues, more room to run around in the territories, meaning more opportunities to see your favorite stars. Well said, the territories were definitely where it was at...An amazing time for pro wrestling... In the '80s, the AWA, WCCW, NWA and WWWF were all there, and it was very cool to see, as a wrestling fan. The '90s became a showdown between 'The Big Two', with ECW providing something different, at a time of big names and lots of money... We all benefitted though, in some way, as fans... |
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Post by twinn on Apr 21, 2009 17:58:05 GMT -5
1988-1992.... Those are the years I consider wrestling to have been the best....
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Post by Duff on Apr 21, 2009 18:14:17 GMT -5
I didnt watch wrestling in the 80's so I have to say the 90's. Especially around the Attitude Era.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 22, 2009 2:03:18 GMT -5
1988-1992.... Those are the years I consider wrestling to have been the best.... I would say 1987 to 1992. While the Attitude Era was considered good but there is one factor that matters most, the fans. As "Simply Priceless" $G-Money$™ stated, the late-90's was more of a bandwagon based time period. The one thing I noticed was my classmates weren't interested in wrestling post-WrestleMania X-Seven. The 80's produced some solid wrestling. Steamboat/Savage (WM III), Steamboat/Flair (Chi-Town Rumble), Sting/Flair (COTC I). Those three matches are wirth viewing. The problem the late 90's lacked was match quality. You were rarely treated with long matches during that time period. Because of that is why the WWE decided it would be a great idea to have 25+ minute matches at the present. Back to the 80's. If it wasn't for the loyal fan base as well as the overall product, then wrestling wouldn't have been popular in the 90's. It two-fold basically. Since I was born in the late-80's, the 80's really holds a special place in my soul. |
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Post by DTP. on Apr 22, 2009 15:07:08 GMT -5
Chris Benoit killed it in the 90's ? Benoit was a mere midcarder in the 90s so tbh... You're wrong. |
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Post by nirvanacobain on Apr 22, 2009 15:30:54 GMT -5
Chris Benoit killed it in the 90's ? Benoit was a mere midcarder in the 90s so tbh... You're wrong. i agree benoit wasn't on anyones radar until 99 i enjoyed his work in the 90s as well but he was hardly making waves. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Apr 22, 2009 16:46:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah and about the '80s: I miss the huge clotheslines! Huge dudes like Hogan and the Warrior double clotheslining each other right down, it was awesome. Looked convincing too, same with the Road Warriors and Stan Hansen crushing people with them.
I guess we can chalk a lot of that up to roid usage, but still... everything seemed bigger than life back then.
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Post by biohazard on Apr 23, 2009 19:47:01 GMT -5
There wouldn't have been the exposure nor the money for all the bigg things of the 90's without the 80's. There wouldn't have been an NWO without the 80's and the Freebirds. Hell, the biggest NWO star was the biggest 80's star. The Horsemen were at their peak. There's your answer.
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Post by k5 on Apr 24, 2009 1:11:07 GMT -5
i wouldn't say the 80s were just hulkamania by a long shot you goof
awa and the nwa called.
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Post by craignwo4life on Apr 25, 2009 8:19:54 GMT -5
1988-1992.... Those are the years I consider wrestling to have been the best.... I agree. Being in the UK I only started to watch WWE from 1990 onwards but even now if I want to watch a DVD I will choose something from the 88-92 era. The Monday night wars were fun but there were also a lot of average matches and gimmicks around as well as the successful NWO, DX, Rock and Austin etc. These days there are too many wrestling shows on TV to make the talent or storylines seem as special as those in years gone by. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 25, 2009 8:43:14 GMT -5
I became a fan in 1991, when wrestling was still pretty much in '80s mode. Loved it as a kid, but it's absolute crap compared to the Monday Night Wars era. Up until Nitro started competing with Raw, wrestling on TV was basically "wrestler beats jobber, during the match a little square pops up on the screen where that wrestler or the guy he's feuding with cuts a promo."
Wrestling became a lot more exciting in 1995 or 1996, but it became a bit less "special" and it had to move at a much faster pace because Star vs Star matches became commonplace. In the 80s and early 90s, you only had to do Star vs Star matches every 3 months or so. In the Monday Night War era, you had to do them every week as well as build up to a PPV every four weeks. In the old days, you could have had a Cena and HHH on the same roster for years and they'd never have to meet. Nowadays, it's weird if you have top guys that have never interacted when they're on the same show.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Apr 26, 2009 12:56:02 GMT -5
I liked the 80's. The characters where just so over the top it was awesome. That was my favorite era. Everything was so colorful and fun.
Some of the attitude era stuff was cool. But I defenetly would not let my child watch. And I think that is was lost alot of fans. In the 80's fathers would take their children to shows. Buy the foam fingers and cheer and boo. In the late 90's it was questionable to bring your kid there. Because every guy was bleeding. Their was profanity, nudity, beer chugging looked cool.
80's characters where so much more original. They didn't have to say they were gonna kick so and so's ass. They were creative with their promos.
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