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Post by sonstuds on Jul 25, 2009 9:24:48 GMT -5
I told you earlier, it's definately Baltimore for the AFC in my opinion, but NFC has been a toss up for me with the Vikings and Saints. Meh. No way in hell Baltimore is going. They just lost 2 important pieces to their aging defense. We've seen it time and time again where Baltimore loses a stud linebacker and they just find somebody to replace them. The second one I assume you're referring to Chris McAlister, who they played majority of their season without. Point is, as usual I expect the Ravens to play the same good defense they've been playing for like ten years and any issues will revolve around their offense. |
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Post by wakeman on Jul 25, 2009 11:31:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd have to bet against Baltimore, although I liked the Drew Bennett signing today. I still can't see them overcoming Pittsburgh, who might not even be the best team in the AFC themselves. It's way too early to tell right now, but it's always hard to argue against the Patriots. Not trying to start a fight or anything. But, personally, I don't think Tom Brady will be like the old Tom. Call me crazy if you must, but I think being away from competition for so long is going to leave some rust. I think he'll snap out of it eventually, but he'll probably be kind of sloppy for, I'll say, at least half of the season. --- Also, I wag my finger at those who did not pick the Ravens to go all the way. Have some faith in these eyebrows...  I still can't see them beating the Steelers in their own division, a team that is virtually the same as a year ago and beat them 3 times. You can argue that all the games were close and the Steelers got a "gift" TD at the end of the Dec. 14th game, but they still beat them 3 times. The AFC championship wasn't as close as the score indicated either. I think the Ravens are a solid team with one of, if not the best defenses in the league. I love Flacco too. But the Steelers are still better than them and will win the AFC North, forcing the Ravens to take the Wild Card route. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 25, 2009 12:54:56 GMT -5
Joe Flacco is mediocre.
There, I said it.
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Post by captain master talbot on Jul 25, 2009 13:35:15 GMT -5
Joe Flacco is mediocre. There, I said it. Every quarterback is mediocre to you if their name isn't Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers or Tony Romo. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 25, 2009 14:52:30 GMT -5
Joe Flacco is mediocre. There, I said it. Every quarterback is mediocre to you if their name isn't Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers or Tony Romo. His QB rating was 80.3. It's below-average among starting QB's. That's the definition of mediocre. |
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Post by captain master talbot on Jul 25, 2009 17:29:25 GMT -5
Every quarterback is mediocre to you if their name isn't Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers or Tony Romo. His QB rating was 80.3. It's below-average among starting QB's. That's the definition of mediocre. Fair enough. |
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Post by Mr. Bo Ziffer on Jul 25, 2009 20:45:32 GMT -5
I like how most of you guys picked last years playoff teams to make the playoffs and last years bad teams to be bad.
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Post by BV on Jul 25, 2009 21:01:02 GMT -5
I like how most of you guys picked last years playoff teams to make the playoffs and last years bad teams to be bad. Sad no one picked Rams to go all the way? |
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Post by captain master talbot on Jul 25, 2009 21:02:04 GMT -5
I like how most of you guys picked last years playoff teams to make the playoffs and last years bad teams to be bad. Because most playoff teams from last year added on to their team, and most teams that were bad last year made no drastic addition that would make them better than playoff teams from last year. And I assume you're talking about the Rams. They won't do good, because its Spags first year as a head coach (great defensive coordinator), their quarterback is bad, their offensive line is bad, Steven Jackson is great, although he gets no help from anyone on the team, they let go of their best wide receiver, and even then they probably have the worst receiving core in the NFL. Their defense is really bad, besides Atogwe and Bartell. Face it, the Rams are a team that isn't going anywhere unless they make some serious additions to both their offense AND their defense. |
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Post by wakeman on Jul 25, 2009 21:09:30 GMT -5
Every quarterback is mediocre to you if their name isn't Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers or Tony Romo. His QB rating was 80.3. It's below-average among starting QB's. That's the definition of mediocre. And I will still contend that Tony Romo is mediocre. I am so  ing tired of hearing him mentioned among the elite QBs. This just in...... he's NOT. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 25, 2009 22:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by captain master talbot on Jul 25, 2009 22:21:37 GMT -5
He's played 4 years, Kliquid. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, because he's good.
Give him another 5 years, and see where his passer rating is then. He's got a big hurdle this year without TO.
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Post by Mr. Bo Ziffer on Jul 25, 2009 22:21:51 GMT -5
I like how most of you guys picked last years playoff teams to make the playoffs and last years bad teams to be bad. Because most playoff teams from last year added on to their team, and most teams that were bad last year made no drastic addition that would make them better than playoff teams from last year. And I assume you're talking about the Rams. They won't do good, because its Spags first year as a head coach (great defensive coordinator), their quarterback is bad, their offensive line is bad, Steven Jackson is great, although he gets no help from anyone on the team, they let go of their best wide receiver, and even then they probably have the worst receiving core in the NFL. Their defense is really bad, besides Atogwe and Bartell. Face it, the Rams are a team that isn't going anywhere unless they make some serious additions to both their offense AND their defense. Theres a few recieving corps worse than the Rams, The Giants,The Tians to name a few. There O-line is way better than last year. Jason Smith is a big upgrade over Pace, They actually have a center in Jason Brown not a street free agent. Barron is at his natural position at LT, And Jacob Bell gained 15 pounds this season(Last offseason he trimmed down quite a bit). On defense they picked up Laurinaitis and switched Witherspoon to Will linebacker, and will have Draft at Sam LB. They picked up Butler who I will admit is overrated but is still a huge uprade over Chavous. And they added depth on the d-line and at CB. I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs but for you to say they hardly improved is assanine. And Marc Bulger is a probowl QB behind an O-line that can block.  My guess for St. louis is 6-10, And if it happened like that i would be happy. |
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Post by captain master talbot on Jul 25, 2009 22:34:10 GMT -5
Steve Smith has more talent than anyone on the Ram's team besides Steven Jackson. The Giants receiving core may not be the best, but they are young, and fast. I think they're going to surprise people.
It might be a bit improved, but the offensive line is still awful.
Laurinatis is a rookie. They let go of Tinosamoa who was their leading tackler last year. It still doesn't change the fact that there's no quality at defensive line except for Christ Long. Their only good corner is Bartell, and like I said, it's easy as hell to pass on their secondary.
It also doesn't change the fact that they didn't improve enough. The Rams are not going to win 6 games, their offense just can't handle it. It's a shame that Steven Jackson is stuck on that team. If he were on a team with even a DECENT offensive line, he'd be putting up MVP type numbers.
Still doesn't change the fact that he throws more interceptions than touchdowns, and is below average in every other category
They go 3-13, beat the Seahawks once, upset the Jaguars (yeesh), and beat the Bears by a field goal.
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Post by BV on Jul 25, 2009 22:49:50 GMT -5
211. Dick Wood 52.9 1962-1966 5TM HAHA. |
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Post by wakeman on Jul 25, 2009 23:22:42 GMT -5
And? He's won nothing. End of argument. I could care less about his QB rating and he does have a big hurdle without TO. I think this season is going to be a disaster for Romo. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 26, 2009 2:34:59 GMT -5
He's played 4 years, Kliquid. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, because he's good. Give him another 5 years, and see where his passer rating is then. He's got a big hurdle this year without TO. You're 100% right. I'm with you on this one. I just don't like it when people come along saying that he's not a good QB when he's done everything other than be on a winning team. And? He's won nothing. End of argument. Trent Dilfer / Dan Marino. End of your stupid "hasn't won anything" theory. |
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Jul 26, 2009 2:54:24 GMT -5
But Trent Dilfer did win something. A SuperBowl ring with Baltimore.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 26, 2009 2:55:18 GMT -5
But Trent Dilfer did win something. A SuperBowl ring with Baltimore. Exactly. And he's no where near as good as Dan Marino. Thus the "never winning anything" theory is completely intellectually- disabled. |
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Post by sonstuds on Jul 26, 2009 9:25:26 GMT -5
Steve Smith has more talent than anyone on the Ram's team besides Steven Jackson. Not really, unless you meant just skill positions. And must we have another Tony Romo argument? |
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