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Post by Next Man’s No 503K on May 15, 2009 0:31:50 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it kind of strange that Big Show's the only guy to have won all four major titles? Heck, hardly anyone else has won even three of the four. I suppose considering the WCW title was retired almost eight years ago, it's not that surprising.
EDIT - Stupidly, I forgot that Big Show hadn't actually won the World title and believed the "tale of the tape" on Superstars this week. Show has actually only won three of the four.
Are there any inaccuracies in the list now?
Three of the Four
Kurt Angle (World, WWE, WCW)
Chris Jericho (same)
Big Show (WWE, WCW, ECW)
Two of the Four
ECW and WWE
Vince McMahon
Rob Van Dam
Kane
ECW and World
CM Punk
WCW and World
Booker T
Goldberg
Chris Benoit
WCW and WWE
The Rock
Ric Flair
Randy Savage
Hulk Hogan
Bret Hart
Sid
Kevin Nash
WWE and World
John Cena
Edge
Randy Orton
Triple H
Undertaker
Shawn Michaels
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Post by Edge618 on May 15, 2009 0:40:20 GMT -5
Its kind of screwy to me. No one to me has held the ECW, WCW, and WWE championship, because for me to see it that way, theyd of had to of held it when the actual promotion was running. Show did hold the ECW belt but it was the WWE version, so to me it doesnt seem right to call him a WCW, ECW, and WWE world champion. Same with Angle, he may have been WCW champion, but he was the WWE's WCW champion, not the champion of the original WCW. Although If Show wins the WWE's WHC, or Punk wins the WWE championship, they would be the 1st to hold all 3 of WWE's main current titles.
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Post by k5 on May 15, 2009 0:42:19 GMT -5
that list is quite concisive, nicely done. i'd never noticed that before either, it's an interesting tidbit. although i'd agree with cashed money punk in saying that the wcw title and ecw title should be differentiated from their wwe cousins.
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Post by Edge618 on May 15, 2009 0:47:55 GMT -5
Oh and by the way, Show hasn't held the WHC. He held the WCW, but not the WHC that HHH and Bischoff introduced in 2002. So really even including the WWE's versions of the titles, no one has held the WCW, WWE, WHC, and ECW championship.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on May 15, 2009 0:48:10 GMT -5
Steve Austin never held the WCW Championship
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Post by King Silva on May 15, 2009 1:04:01 GMT -5
I guess since if major title contenders win the wwe or wht before they win the ecw they usually won't go back to competing for that title since it isn't as good.
It's impossible for someone to get the wcw title so the best a person could do is get the 3/3 current world title..
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Post by Next Man’s No 503K on May 15, 2009 1:04:11 GMT -5
Its kind of screwy to me. No one to me has held the ECW, WCW, and WWE championship, because for me to see it that way, theyd of had to of held it when the actual promotion was running. I think the WWE versions of the titles count as WWE became the rightful owners of those titles. To the victor go the spoils and all that. The titles changed shows, networks, bosses all the time anyway. Oh and by the way, Show hasn't held the WHC. He held the WCW, but not the WHC that HHH and Bischoff introduced in 2002. So really even including the WWE's versions of the titles, no one has held the WCW, WWE, WHC, and ECW championship. crap, that's true. The thing that made me think of this list was that on Superstars they did a Big Show v Hornswoggle tale of the tape and listed World Heavyweight Champion under Big Show's accomplishments. Steve Austin never held the WCW Championship That's a brainfart on my part. I don't even know when I was thinking of Austin being WCW champion. |
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Post by Next Man’s No 503K on May 15, 2009 1:07:52 GMT -5
I guess since if major title contenders win the wwe or wht before they win the ecw they usually won't go back to competing for that title since it isn't as good. Yeah, that's a huge factor as well. Show and Kane are guys who get shifted up and down the card, and can be seen as credible enough for the two major titles and lowly enough for the ECW title. |
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Post by Edge618 on May 15, 2009 1:10:21 GMT -5
Its kind of screwy to me. No one to me has held the ECW, WCW, and WWE championship, because for me to see it that way, theyd of had to of held it when the actual promotion was running. I think the WWE versions of the titles count as WWE became the rightful owners of those titles. To the victor go the spoils and all that. The titles changed shows, networks, bosses all the time anyway. I just dont think its fair to include all 3. Its much more of an accomplishment to go to 3 different companies and be at the top of all 3 of them, than to hold 3 different championships inside of one company. |
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Post by Next Man’s No 503K on May 15, 2009 1:20:10 GMT -5
I think the WWE versions of the titles count as WWE became the rightful owners of those titles. To the victor go the spoils and all that. The titles changed shows, networks, bosses all the time anyway. I just dont think its fair to include all 3. Its much more of an accomplishment to go to 3 different companies and be at the top of all 3 of them, than to hold 3 different championships inside of one company. You're right. But wrestling tends to ignore the small print around achievements, and the history books get written by the winners. Like Show being the only guy to win the ECW, WCW and WWE titles. It'd be a bigger accomplishment if he'd won it in the old ECW, but as it stands, nobody else has even done it in the WWE versions of ECW and WCW (though I think Kurt Angle would have, had he not lost his mind in 2006), so it's still a notable and unique achievement. |
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Post by Edge618 on May 15, 2009 2:08:18 GMT -5
I just dont think its fair to include all 3. Its much more of an accomplishment to go to 3 different companies and be at the top of all 3 of them, than to hold 3 different championships inside of one company. You're right. But wrestling tends to ignore the small print around achievements, and the history books get written by the winners. Like Show being the only guy to win the ECW, WCW and WWE titles. It'd be a bigger accomplishment if he'd won it in the old ECW, but as it stands, nobody else has even done it in the WWE versions of ECW and WCW (though I think Kurt Angle would have, had he not lost his mind in 2006), so it's still a notable and unique achievement. True that. I think Show and Punk are really the only 2 that really have a shot at at holding the WWE, WHC, and ECW for the 1st time, because a lot the people who had the WWE and World titles wont take a big step back to the ECW title, but since Punk snuck it in early and Show got it to jumpstart the show, their the only 2 i see even having a chance right now. And Angle definantly would have grabbed the ECW belt in '06 had he not left. That was back when ECW was actually worth watching for me. |
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Post by carly1988 on May 15, 2009 2:52:05 GMT -5
I usually lump the WHC with the old WCW linage. Yes I know its completely different but the explanation of the WHC is "A title to recognize all past world champions" that includes; WCW, AWA, WCCW, Stampede and anything that the McMahon family has bought....
I personally consider Hulk Hogan the most decorated World Champion since he has held 4 major world titles...
IWGP (Unofficial but recognized)
AWA
WCW
WWF
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on May 15, 2009 3:28:14 GMT -5
It is quite odd. From the list, i reckon punk will step up to 3. As for winning all 4, i only really see show as a chance for that.
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Post by DTP. on May 15, 2009 6:15:25 GMT -5
Jericho has only been WWE Champ. I don't consider his WCW title reign as it was under the WWF banner.
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Post by frtxchamp on May 15, 2009 10:16:22 GMT -5
As much as I like him Jericho's becoming a jobber he might go down to the ECW title, and then he will have held all of them.
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Post by Edge618 on May 15, 2009 12:11:57 GMT -5
Jericho has only been WWE Champ. I don't consider his WCW title reign as it was under the WWF banner. No he was the Undisputed Champion which is the WWE Championship. And he was just the WHC last year. |
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Post by sxexhxc on May 15, 2009 12:36:41 GMT -5
CM Punk will be the first -___-. Should be The Big Show IMO.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on May 15, 2009 12:47:30 GMT -5
I usually lump the WHC with the old WCW linage. Yes I know its completely different but the explanation of the WHC is "A title to recognize all past world champions" that includes; WCW, AWA, WCCW, Stampede and anything that the McMahon family has bought.... I personally consider Hulk Hogan the most decorated World Champion since he has held 4 major world titles... IWGP (Unofficial but recognized) AWA WCW WWF Hogan never won the IWGP, and his AWA reign(s) are unrecognized. |
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Post by Steve Corino on May 15, 2009 14:02:23 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken Hogan won the tournament to crwn the first IWGP champion so therefore he has won it.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on May 15, 2009 14:09:36 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken Hogan won the tournament to crwn the first IWGP champion so therefore he has won it. Antonio Inoki won the tournament to crown the first IWGP champion. |
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