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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 7, 2009 18:19:09 GMT -5
so i was watching Wrestlepalooza and he was shooting on WWF and such and said that HBK forfeited the intercontinental belt to him. My question is does anyone know what show this was on and is there any video of this online?
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2009 18:50:07 GMT -5
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jul 7, 2009 19:32:37 GMT -5
I love when ignorant, stupid people post things as if they're fact when there is absolutely zero concrete proof.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2009 19:51:21 GMT -5
I love when ignorant, stupid people post things as if they're fact when there is absolutely zero concrete proof. I was like "Why is this married 24 year old dude on my case?" and then I saw his username... heartbreakkid2k3. It all makes sense now. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jul 7, 2009 19:54:19 GMT -5
I love when ignorant, stupid people post things as if they're fact when there is absolutely zero concrete proof. I was like "Why is this married 24 year old dude on my case?" and then I saw his username... heartbreakkid2k3. It all makes sense now. Yes, because that has EVERYTHING to do with it. Provide proof that he refused to job. You can't. Hence my main point. If anyone can come up with concrete proof to support any of these claims that HBK completely, flat-out refused to job, I'll buy them, no questions. But there is none. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2009 20:00:36 GMT -5
I was like "Why is this married 24 year old dude on my case?" and then I saw his username... heartbreakkid2k3. It all makes sense now. Yes, because that has EVERYTHING to do with it. Provide proof that he refused to job. You can't. Hence my main point. If anyone can come up with concrete proof to support any of these claims that HBK completely, flat-out refused to job, I'll buy them, no questions. But there is none. I can't? Watch shoot interviews with Candido, or Bigelow, or Shane Douglas. Watch Bret Hart talk about how much of a dick Shawn Michaels was/is. I mean, listen to Shawn Michaels himself discuss the Douglas situation on his '98 shoot. I can't provide proof? How about Michaels forfeiting TWO titles now when he was too much of a **** to do an actual job. It's fairly common knowledge: Michaels had a big mouth and ran around with a tight crew back in the day, or did you forget about his nightclub run-in with those Marines? Half the roster wanted to punch him out. In conclusion, shut your mouth HBK mark, and go help the missus with the dishes. Don't go throwing rocks at someone with a machine gun next time. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jul 7, 2009 20:02:22 GMT -5
So, none of those people could possibly have a bias? It's not concrete proof. It's the opinions of three people, and Bret Hart, who admits to having a bias against Michaels.
0 for 2, pal.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2009 20:04:20 GMT -5
Keep covering your eyes. You don't find it the least bit suspicious that Shawn Michaels could forfeit and devalue two WWF/E titles? At an opponent's expense? At not wanting to job to them?
You've thrown nothing back at me, let's reverse the score.
2-0, checkmate. Go.
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 7, 2009 20:16:41 GMT -5
thank you for this sir. sorry to have gotten you into a fight over this situation i just never knew about this till seeing shane shoot about how the IC title has zero value. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2009 20:23:14 GMT -5
It's all good my friend, luckily I have my giant Shawn Michaels superfan fly swatter. Perfect for whacking those pesky marks.
Would you agree that Michaels pulling a stunt like that devalued the title? I would, he should've defended it and lost it like a man, like a real champion. I can't fault Shane Douglas for being pissed off.
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Post by layton on Jul 7, 2009 20:40:36 GMT -5
That's the ass-kickin'est jacket I ever did see.
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 7, 2009 20:41:49 GMT -5
It's all good my friend, luckily I have my giant Shawn Michaels superfan fly swatter. Perfect for whacking those pesky marks. Would you agree that Michaels pulling a stunt like that devalued the title? I would, he should've defended it and lost it like a man, like a real champion. I can't fault Shane Douglas for being pissed off. no i totally agree. if you can win a title just by getting handed it, certainly makes the title look really really weak. do you know what match HBK's injuries were from that caused him the "concussion" |
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Post by CF9™ on Jul 8, 2009 1:19:06 GMT -5
Well, in Shane Douglas's mind, everyone is against him. Atleast he got a belt, he has terrble in-ring talent as far as I'm concerned. The only thing he is good at is saying how much he's been "held back".
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Post by carly1988 on Jul 8, 2009 4:37:43 GMT -5
Yes, because that has EVERYTHING to do with it. Provide proof that he refused to job. You can't. Hence my main point. If anyone can come up with concrete proof to support any of these claims that HBK completely, flat-out refused to job, I'll buy them, no questions. But there is none. I can't? Watch shoot interviews with Candido, or Bigelow, or Shane Douglas. Watch Bret Hart talk about how much of a dick Shawn Michaels was/is. I mean, listen to Shawn Michaels himself discuss the Douglas situation on his '98 shoot. I can't provide proof? How about Michaels forfeiting TWO titles now when he was too much of a **** to do an actual job. It's fairly common knowledge: Michaels had a big mouth and ran around with a tight crew back in the day, or did you forget about his nightclub run-in with those Marines? Half the roster wanted to punch him out. In conclusion, shut your mouth HBK mark, and go help the missus with the dishes. Don't go throwing rocks at someone with a machine gun next time. Michaels always like to talk about how he "works injured" with messed up discs in his back and blow out knees etc...Yet it has always surprised me that the only times hes forfeited titles were to 2 men he hated and he had "injuries" like a messed up knee (that didnt keep him from moving around or using crutches at all, and after he got beat up. The guy was scum in the mid 90s. The entire Kliq held the WWF back from dominance. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 8, 2009 4:54:05 GMT -5
It's all good my friend, luckily I have my giant Shawn Michaels superfan fly swatter. Perfect for whacking those pesky marks. Would you agree that Michaels pulling a stunt like that devalued the title? I would, he should've defended it and lost it like a man, like a real champion. I can't fault Shane Douglas for being pissed off. Michaels ended up in the hospital after he was beaten by those Marines, jealous that their girlfriends were drooling over Shawn and not them, outside the bar. Marines or not, those guys were gutless thugs. You only needed take a look at how bad his face looked when he forfeited the title to see that the forfeit was completely necessary. If Douglas is still butthurt over that, then he is delusional. He was an absolute talentless piece of feces who tried to make it twice in WWE and couldn't cut it. The real travesty was that he soiled the I-C belt for the few hours that he had it. He shouldn't have been doing anything but getting squashed in WWF. The only reason he ever made a name for himself in ECW is because Paul E. let him scream a bunch of profanity and belittle Ric Flair. It wasn't Michaels' forfeit that hurt Douglas in his WWF run, it was the fact that he sucked and always sucked. It's no secret that Shawn, the real man, was a jerk in the 90s as many wrestlers are but Douglas was known to be a disrespectful jerk as well. The difference between HBK and the Dynamic Dud is that HBK had talent whereas the Dud was a waste of roster space in every organization he ever wrestled. And isn't he just adding to his legacy of failure with his TNA "work"?!! LOL!! |
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 8, 2009 8:01:31 GMT -5
Well, in Shane Douglas's mind, everyone is against him. Atleast he got a belt, he has terrble in-ring talent as far as I'm concerned. The only thing he is good at is saying how much he's been "held back". i liked shanes in ring talent, his characters are pretty stale other then his ECW persona though. on another note i didn't know i was gonna get all the HBK marks riled up due to this post. whoops. |
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Post by LeighD on Jul 8, 2009 8:03:33 GMT -5
so i was watching Wrestlepalooza and he was shooting on WWF and such and said that HBK forfeited the intercontinental belt to him. My question is does anyone know what show this was on and is there any video of this online? Ok, let me try and clear things up for you among all the fighting here: Whether HBK was supposed to drop the belt to Douglas originally, I don't know or cannot remember. However before IYH, HBK was beaten up by a few marines due to some conflict in the bar. Thus to play off this "incident" WWF had HBK forfeit the belt to Douglas, which he lost to Razor Ramon later that evening. |
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Post by carly1988 on Jul 8, 2009 8:06:43 GMT -5
Well, in Shane Douglas's mind, everyone is against him. Atleast he got a belt, he has terrble in-ring talent as far as I'm concerned. The only thing he is good at is saying how much he's been "held back". i liked shanes in ring talent, his characters are pretty stale other then his ECW persona though. on another note i didn't know i was gonna get all the HBK marks riled up due to this post. whoops. You're not allowed to say anything negative about HBK anymore. I dont know if it was because he's found God or if half of his fans were turned on by his homosexual tendencies during his "big run" in 96 but one bad word about their great leader and they get all up in arms. Its really quite silly. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Jul 8, 2009 8:35:23 GMT -5
It's no secret that Shawn, the real man, was a jerk in the 90s as many wrestlers are but Douglas was known to be a disrespectful jerk as well. The difference between HBK and the Dynamic Dud is that HBK had talent whereas the Dud was a waste of roster space in every organization he ever wrestled. I'm a fan of both guys, and I also acknowledge that both HBK and Douglas were pretty big jerks when they wanted to be. But if you're telling me you never saw any good Shane Douglas matches, then you simply haven't seen much wrestling. Say what you will about his personality, but when he was healthy, Douglas was definitely a good wrestler. Not the greatest of all time, but definitely far better than you have made him out to be. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 8, 2009 9:28:03 GMT -5
It's no secret that Shawn, the real man, was a jerk in the 90s as many wrestlers are but Douglas was known to be a disrespectful jerk as well. The difference between HBK and the Dynamic Dud is that HBK had talent whereas the Dud was a waste of roster space in every organization he ever wrestled. I'm a fan of both guys, and I also acknowledge that both HBK and Douglas were pretty big jerks when they wanted to be.
But if you're telling me you never saw any good Shane Douglas matches, then you simply haven't seen much wrestling. Say what you will about his personality, but when he was healthy, Douglas was definitely a good wrestler.
Not the greatest of all time, but definitely far better than you have made him out to be. I remember him all the way back to his Dynamic Dud days in WCW. I still feel that he was little more than a jobber who was in the right place at the right time. Paul E found someone who wasn't afraid to jeapordize his reputation ( because he had none to speak of) by using a plethora of vulgarity to rail against bookers and main eventers from other companies. It was nothing but cheap heat. Once that element was removed from Douglas, he never regained anything close to the status that he had in ECW in the early 90s because he had no creativity in the ring. Sorry to be so negative but Douglas is one of those guys that never really deserved what he got ( much like Hogan and Warrior) only to constantly complain through the years because he didn't get more. I usually don't care what wrestlers are like behind the scenes until it starts adversely affecting the on-air product and Douglas falls into that category. |
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