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Post by carly1988 on Jul 11, 2009 2:15:44 GMT -5
Douglas was/is a hell of a worker all his career. Of course injuries slowed him down later on much like others. His Franchise gimmick though really set him over the top. I wouldnt say he was Triple H before Triple H was Triple H....but Douglas was Steve Austin before Austin was.....He was the man that told the company and corporate suits, you. He's the one that went out and said what he thought and let the censors go crazy. He was that crazy son of a bitch that everyone wished they were. Douglas was the man in ECW.
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Post by LeighD on Jul 11, 2009 6:47:14 GMT -5
You're all still missing the point. Why are we not talking about that jacket? Yes, that jacket is beautiful. It should be on the cover of every 90s fashion style guide. It certainly was Michaels' forfeit that helped contribute to Douglas' fall in the WWF. Not to mention Michaels allegedly telling people backstage that Douglas "couldn't get heat, and didn't deserve the title", despite the fact that he wrestled in a three on three tag match with other heels and took some punches in the face from crazed chick HBK fans. I'd say that's heat, and I'd even say Shane Douglas was one of the best heels of the '90s. His 'Franchise' gimmick is strangely similar to HHH's 'the Game' gimmick, but nobody bitches about Hunter and his promos. Listen, it's no secret Shawn Michaels was a douchebag in the '90s. Ask Lex Luger, ask Bret Hart, ask Big Van Vader or just listen to how a respected guy like Bam Bam Bigelow talks about him. The entire Kliq had Vince McMahon on hand and knee for them. They used to poop in Jerry Lawler's crown, do coke, and generally act like a bunch of frat kids. You can't blame Shane Douglas for being pissed off, he wanted to win the title in a legit fashion. Instead, Shawn Michaels got over at his expense with the sad faces, handed him the I.C title, and had Scott Hall come in and squash him immediately after. Shane Douglas never even had a proper chance to enjoy any sort of title reign. Speaking of the Kliq, the funniest story relating to that is when Scott Hall worked ECW for those one-to-two appearences, he was backstage with Bam Bam, Chris Candido and Shane Douglas and told to leave after his match, or he'd get the ever-loving sh-t kicked out of him. And sure enough, he left right after. Ok, let me try and clear things up for you among all the fighting here: Whether HBK was supposed to drop the belt to Douglas originally, I don't know or cannot remember. However before IYH, HBK was beaten up by a few marines due to some conflict in the bar. Thus to play off this "incident" WWF had HBK forfeit the belt to Douglas, which he lost to Razor Ramon later that evening. That's not how it was. Listen to the commentary, even Vince McMahon mentions that Shawn Michaels "isn't looking that bad". That's a storyline excuse, the real reason is Shawn Michaels simply didn't want to do the job for Douglas... which he was FULLY capable of doing, I mean he wrestled Owen Hart a few weeks later and took that 'concussion' bump. ^ I wasn't saying he wasn't capable of wrestling that evening because I'm fairly confident he was just "losing he smile' and didn't want to job to Douglas. I was just saying the Marine story was just a play off to cover up WHY HBK gave up the belt to Douglas. Make sense? Also, I didn't know about the Triple Threat/Scott Hall incident. Funny.
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