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Post by miserere on Aug 23, 2009 22:16:37 GMT -5
Not at all buddy, not at all. Jeff Hardy is like the Micheal Vick of the WWE. No matter how hard he works or repairs his image, he still is getting a second (or in Jeff's case, 3rd chance) that he doesn't deserve whatsoever. Hahaha, you've got to be kidding me. You're right, he doesn't deserve to be in WWE, and the company shouldn't give him any chances. Jeff generates NO money for them and contributes very little to their merchandise sales. Such a lazy, spoiled bum. I can't see why anybody would want him on their active roster.
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Post by ppk101 on Aug 23, 2009 22:17:56 GMT -5
And for those who didn't like the ending to the actual ending, it does make sense how it went down, since Hardy was selling his neck/head from the chair/ring post spot from Smackdown for a few weeks, leading up to whether or not Hardy would be alright to compete, so after that Swanton spot and barely being able to make it to the ring, it makes sense for Punk to be able to get the upper hand and knock Hardy off the ladder with a hard punch. Sure it might not have been the prettiest ending, but it did make a ton of sense.
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Post by Edge618 on Aug 23, 2009 22:18:03 GMT -5
I'm gonna need to borrow a few of those after that orgasmic ending. LMAO
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 23, 2009 22:18:08 GMT -5
Bullcrap. Complete bullcrap. People were on drugs for years, like Eddie Guerrero and he's a saint. That is such bullcrap. The man makes a good point. He really does. Jeff Hardy should not be judged for how many times he fell down, but for how many he picked himself up, like Eddie was. And Eddie was a lot worse with his demons than Jeff was. At least his autobiography made it seem that way.
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Post by gianthaystacks on Aug 23, 2009 22:18:58 GMT -5
Well, I'm off to bed happy after that great final match and ending to the ppv! Night guys! .
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Post by MC2 on Aug 23, 2009 22:19:08 GMT -5
you all suck, JOeY and I, and some other people are huge hardy fans, and if were pissed off about him losing, you shouldn't add fuel to it, if punk lost, we wouldn't try to get you posted off. so freaking stop guys
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Post by layton on Aug 23, 2009 22:19:22 GMT -5
Here's my rundown. This is my first shot at a full PPV star rating system. This is going by memory after the PPV and not while it happened. Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler was much better than their solid bout last month. Great, hot opener. Surprised they kept the belt on Mysterio but Ziggler looked great, countering all of Mysterio's offense. In the end, Mysterio's experience got him the victory. ***1/2 MVP vs. Swagger was pretty uneventful. The dead crowd didn't help much. There was nothing wrong with it, it was just there. I blame a lot on the shoddy booking. Surprised they gave MVP the win since they have a hard on for Swagger, but glad he took it. ** Big Show and Chris Jericho vs. Cryme Tyme was decent. JTG looks better every time I see him. Great finish that showed how dominant Jericho and Show are as a tandem. **1/4 Kane vs. Great Khali, I cannot fairly rate. I went poop during this match. I just didn't care about it. From what I saw, DUD. D-Generation X vs. Legacy was GREAT. I loved it. It was obvious D-X would win, and they should. They're much more experienced and have a lot more experience, individually and as singles stars, over Legacy. Yet, Legacy looked great, dominating most of the offense, countering many of Michaels' trademark moves. Every time I thought they were setting up for the end, Legacy came back and regained momentum. ***1/2 Christian vs. William Regal was a load of garbage and a slap in the face. If you're running short on time, no one needed Kane vs. Khali to go that long. This was an insult to the paying customer. I was really lookign forward to this and it pisses me off that they short changed it. I'm sure they'll get a rematch next month, but c'mon, this was unnecessary. A slap in the face to the ECW Championship, as this is the second Summerslam in a ROW, the ECW Championship match lasted less than a minute. Garbage. Keep that crap to TV, and not for the paying customer. Solid DUD. Orton vs. Cena bored me to tears until they set the multiple Dusty-finish into action. I'm glad they didn't do the BS DQ ending, which I thought they were going to do. Restarting was a nice throwback to No Way Out 2008. Boring match, but it gets **1/4 for keeping me interested in the ending. I'm just convinced Orton does not know what to do in the middle of the match unless he's got someone else calling the shots. He relies on stomping and chinlocks way too much. Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk. I had high hopes for this match, and for the most part, it delivered. I cannot believe how perfectly Jeff hit that Swanton on Punk. It built a crescendo to that spot beautifully. The spots didn't come off contrived at all, like Taker vs. Edge did. My only problem with the match was the finish. Punk needed a bigger move to get the victory. I mean, if this is Jeff's last appearance, Jeff should have crashed and burned on the Swanton, and Punk should have climbed and gotten the belt. He could have carried Jeff in the ring and gotten the same aftermath. Still, it doesn't hurt it too much, and it was a great match all around. ****1/4 What was good was very good, and everything else was decent, or at the least, interesting (aside from Kane/Khali and Regal/Christian). Thumbs up for Summerslam 2009. I MIGHT take the 1/4 star off the main event. MIGHT. Aside from that, I think these are solid ratings.
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Post by Kid Lightning on Aug 23, 2009 22:19:23 GMT -5
I have to say that I was not super impressed with most of tonight's show. Rey/Ziggler was a good match and it made me realize how between the Jericho/Rey and Rey/Ziggler matches that the IC Title is now prestigious once again. Started out wanting a Ziggler win, but Rey retaining will keep the prestige growing, plus will give him a longer reign that he deserves. MVP/Swagger was decent, but still would have preferred a US Title Match. The way the announcers were talking I thought maybe the winner would be the next one moving towards the WWE Title picture, but the ending of the WWE Championship Match makes it look otherwise, which means this one had little point. Glad to see two very talented stars make the show though. Tag Title Match was entertaining, and got thinking how Cryme Tyme has been passed over at least twice in the past when earning #1 Contendership, but that this match tonight against a team the caliber of Jericho/Show and at a show as big as Summerslam makes it worth the wait. Love Jericho/Show's new theme...hope they last a while as champs and feud with DX or Hardyz. Kane/Khali sucked....thought it would be worst match of the night, and somehow it comes in as second worst to me, which while watching the match I would not have thought possible. DX/Legacy surprised me with how good Legacy came out looking......was so thrilled they didn't get Spirit Squad treatment and get buried. Regal/Christian could have been the 2nd best match under TLC...but no, instead they give us a 4 second finish to instead show us Axxess footage. As if I wasn't upset enough about Kane/Khali...them ruining one of my most anticipated matches really pissed me off and wonder why I was even watching this. Then....there is Orton/Cena. I thought it would at least be ok, a decent match. But instead what we got was a cluster full of false finishes and botches by Lillian. Could be looked aside if the match was decent to that point, but it was all punches. Maybe I am just being harsh or just was not into it....but this match had to be my least favorite WWE Championship Match I have ever witnessed, and at Summerslam no less. Both men are capable of so much better...but the way they had the match planned out killed it. THANK GOD FOR HARDY AND PUNK!!! At this point I was really asking myself why I was watching this, and I am not even the one paying for it! Luckily this one was amazing and even got me to mark out a few times like I did when I was younger. And The Undertaker thing was awesome.....the switch with Hardy was genius and I marked out like a little bitch haha. So basically the last 40 minutes made the show for me, with the beginning being decent with some super suckiness in the middle (Kane/Khali, Orton/Cena, Regal/Christian)
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Post by Phantom on Aug 23, 2009 22:19:45 GMT -5
Are you guys ready for Phil Brooks You part 3?
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 23, 2009 22:20:53 GMT -5
Here's my rundown. This is my first shot at a full PPV star rating system. This is going by memory after the PPV and not while it happened. Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler was much better than their solid bout last month. Great, hot opener. Surprised they kept the belt on Mysterio but Ziggler looked great, countering all of Mysterio's offense. In the end, Mysterio's experience got him the victory. ***1/2 MVP vs. Swagger was pretty uneventful. The dead crowd didn't help much. There was nothing wrong with it, it was just there. I blame a lot on the shoddy booking. Surprised they gave MVP the win since they have a hard on for Swagger, but glad he took it. ** Big Show and Chris Jericho vs. Cryme Tyme was decent. JTG looks better every time I see him. Great finish that showed how dominant Jericho and Show are as a tandem. **1/4 Kane vs. Great Khali, I cannot fairly rate. I went poop during this match. I just didn't care about it. From what I saw, DUD. D-Generation X vs. Legacy was GREAT. I loved it. It was obvious D-X would win, and they should. They're much more experienced and have a lot more experience, individually and as singles stars, over Legacy. Yet, Legacy looked great, dominating most of the offense, countering many of Michaels' trademark moves. Every time I thought they were setting up for the end, Legacy came back and regained momentum. ***1/2 Christian vs. William Regal was a load of garbage and a slap in the face. If you're running short on time, no one needed Kane vs. Khali to go that long. This was an insult to the paying customer. I was really lookign forward to this and it pisses me off that they short changed it. I'm sure they'll get a rematch next month, but c'mon, this was unnecessary. A slap in the face to the ECW Championship, as this is the second Summerslam in a ROW, the ECW Championship match lasted less than a minute. Garbage. Keep that crap to TV, and not for the paying customer. Solid DUD. Orton vs. Cena bored me to tears until they set the multiple Dusty-finish into action. I'm glad they didn't do the BS DQ ending, which I thought they were going to do. Restarting was a nice throwback to No Way Out 2008. Boring match, but it gets **1/4 for keeping me interested in the ending. I'm just convinced Orton does not know what to do in the middle of the match unless he's got someone else calling the shots. He relies on stomping and chinlocks way too much. Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk. I had high hopes for this match, and for the most part, it delivered. I cannot believe how perfectly Jeff hit that Swanton on Punk. It built a crescendo to that spot beautifully. The spots didn't come off contrived at all, like Taker vs. Edge did. My only problem with the match was the finish. Punk needed a bigger move to get the victory. I mean, if this is Jeff's last appearance, Jeff should have crashed and burned on the Swanton, and Punk should have climbed and gotten the belt. He could have carried Jeff in the ring and gotten the same aftermath. Still, it doesn't hurt it too much, and it was a great match all around. ****1/4 What was good was very good, and everything else was decent, or at the least, interesting (aside from Kane/Khali and Regal/Christian). Thumbs up for Summerslam 2009. I MIGHT take the 1/4 star off the main event. MIGHT. Aside from that, I think these are solid ratings. Thank you for reading. I agree. I tossed back and forth a bit between **** and ****1/4 but I could be swayed to go with either one.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Aug 23, 2009 22:21:14 GMT -5
Yeah, your heros, Eddie Guerrero and Shawn Michaels were on drugs for years, using that argument against Jeff Hardy is really childish.
Overall a solid Pay-Per-View. Ziggler/Mysterio DX/Legecy Jerrishow/Cryme Tyme Ending to Cena/Orton and the TLC match with Undertaker returned made the show great in my opinion. Here's hoping Punk busts out the Anaconda Vise for Breaking Point.
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Post by Edge618 on Aug 23, 2009 22:21:20 GMT -5
you all suck, JOeY and I, and some other people are huge hardy fans, and if were pissed off about him losing, you shouldn't add fuel to it, if punk lost, we wouldn't try to get you posted off. so freaking stop guys If only that were true
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Post by leafs911 on Aug 23, 2009 22:24:16 GMT -5
cena was getting booed to like usual . .. . . fans were even cheering for ziggler i wanted him to win STILLL
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Post by Nick on Aug 23, 2009 22:24:53 GMT -5
in' crazy. Any .gif and/or pic requests from tonight? Undertaker?
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Post by J12 on Aug 23, 2009 22:25:25 GMT -5
Let me start off by saying that for the first time in ten years, I didn't either order or attend Summerslam. After seeing the show, I'm confident that not ordering was the best decision I could have made.
In recent months, WWE has had a serious problem with delivering on their Pay-Per-Views. May-June was plagued by frequent events with little time to build, and Night of Champions turned out well, but still didn't approach the threshold of being worth our money.
Unfortunately, I had little hope for Summerslam from the start. For being the "second biggest show of the year", it seemed to be filled with a lot of mid-card clutter (which has strangely been missing from WWE shows all year), which leads me to wonder why they chose Summerslam to start back up with it again.
Match by match...
Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler was, as far as I'm concerned, far better than their encounter last month. Solidly paced match, crowd seemed really entertained, overall a pleasant bout to watch. Ziggler impresses me more and more each time I see him, and I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of these two. Good move on Todd Grisham's part to put over Ziggler despite his loss, it keeps the door open for future matches.
Swagger/MVP was solid enough, though their promo in the back was better than the match itself. The right man won, though, don't get me wrong, Swagger is a great competitor. MVP has been paying his dues slightly longer, so it was nice to see him get the win, but I see a place for them both in the main event scene eventually (though Raw may not be the best place for that.)
The Unified Tag Team Title match never really clicked with me. I thought the feud was rather pointless to begin with, and Jericho/Show would have been better served facing a team like DX, to really bring some credibility to the belts (and get Triple H away from Legacy). Cryme Tyme held their own wrestling wise. Decent enough match, not really Summerslam caliber.
The Great Khali/Kane was a horrible match, though I'm sure no one was expecting any different. This is exactly what I mean by mid-card filler. A few more backstage segments, extra time to the World Title match, anything would have been better than this. Khali is a novelty character, he shouldn't be on Pay-Per-Views, and Kane is serving no purpose anymore. This match was stale before it even started.
I was relieved when DX/Legacy was announced as the next match, as I feared it would be the main event. DX's entrance was slightly entertaining, albeit total overkill. By the way WWE treated it, you would think its been ten years since we've seen DX. Not the case, so it all felt a little forced. Match started out painfully slow, I couldn't get into it at all. Things picked up towards the end, however, making it at least worth sitting through. My only real kudos to WWE here is the fact that they didn't make Legacy look like total weaklings. I expected a total squash, but instead Legacy took DX to the limit and the commentators made sure to drive that point home.
ECW Championship match was downright sad. Clearly they were short for time, and that could have been solved by cutting Kane/Khali, but ECW totally got the shaft tonight. I feel horrible for Striker and Matthews. Not into this alliance between Regal, Kozlov, and Jackson. I still don't think Kozlov has any business on TV, and I haven't seen anything from Jackson that would make me say anything different about him. Christian deserves better than that.
I couldn't help but laugh my way through the WWE Championship match. I found it hilarious that WWE realized that it was so monotonous and under-built that it didn't even deserve a build up package. Thats when you really need to start evaluating your priorities. Instead of building a half decent match for the WWE Championship for your second biggest event of the year, you waste your weekly 2 hours building DX and promoting celebrities. Tonight proved how much of a mess Raw really is. As for the match itself, it was funny to me that WWE almost acknowledged Cena and Orton's lack of chemistry together and tried to make up for it by changing the rules and restarting the match several times to take the fan's attention away from the fact that it was a below mediocre match that meant nothing in the long run. Everything about the finishes were just awkward, particularly the "fan" interference. Keep these two away from each other, please.
Finally, the only match on the card I was really looking forward to. Somehow, I keep getting fooled by the Hardy/Punk matches. I get excited for them and fail to realize until the match begins that their previous encounters have been less than stellar. Hardy and Punk typically have better matches with other people on TV than they do with each other. The match still, by a long shot, takes match of the night honor (though thats not something hard to do with this card). Match felt rushed, with a whole lot happening at the beginning and nothing happening toward the end. The swanton off the ladder through the table was big...but not the big spot I was expecting to take Jeff out. If I remember correctly, he's done that before, more than once probably.
Finish was incredibly weak and really put a sour note on the whole match. It was lacking the innovation I expected from these two and really wasn't the proper blow off to their feud it should have been. The Hardy/Punk rivalry is another casualty of the build up being better than the matches, unfortunately.
The lights flickering was a nice touch, and seeing Punk/Taker will be neat. Hopefully this doesn't mean Punk is going to lose the title quickly, he needs a lengthy run.
Best part of the night was Taker's appearance from the floor. It was odd, I didn't even notice it was Taker at first until I noticed how much larger the body beneath Punk was. Great spot there.
Overall, incredibly lackluster show that can be easily lumped together with several other forgettable Pay-Per-Views this year (Judgment Day, One Night Stand, The Bash). Not acceptable for WWE's second biggest event of the year.
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Post by v/\v on Aug 23, 2009 22:27:42 GMT -5
Gotta tell ya, that was a really great show, other than Swag/MVP & the ECW....thing, the whole show entertained the hell out of me. Really solid matches.
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Post by rkokixas on Aug 23, 2009 22:27:44 GMT -5
Orton won so thats all that matters,screwy finish(es)or not.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Aug 23, 2009 22:27:53 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy is like the Micheal Vick of the WWE. No matter how hard he works or repairs his image, he still is getting a second (or in Jeff's case, 3rd chance) that he doesn't deserve whatsoever. Hahaha, you've got to be kidding me. You're right, he doesn't deserve to be in WWE, and the company shouldn't give him any chances. Jeff generates NO money for them and contributes very little to their merchandise sales. Such a lazy, spoiled bum. I can't see why anybody would want him on their active roster. huh? Hardy is a HUGE seller when it comes to merchandise. Just search his name on Ebay.
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Post by Gore on Aug 23, 2009 22:28:49 GMT -5
The difference is, Eddie could actually wrestle. The highest thing he had to jump off of was the top rope for the frog splash. If Jeff never started being stupid and jumping off high things, the Hardys would've been an afterthought in the WWF/E.
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Post by kimberlysghost on Aug 23, 2009 22:33:14 GMT -5
Punk main evented Summerfest. Won the World title. And has a top notch feud awaiting him. I am extremely happy. Kim
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