K Dot
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Post by K Dot on Aug 6, 2009 23:01:06 GMT -5
\ He's trying to get the most money he can... I can't really say I blame him. Especially given that it's possible that there could be no salary cap in the upcoming seasons, meaning he could possibly get more in free agency than he could from the draft. I agree to an extent but do NFL players or athletes in general really need that much money? It really bothers me when I see athletes holding off because 40 mil contract is not enough for them. Sports is becoming more about money than passion now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 23:05:47 GMT -5
Im going to be attending to Open Lions practice on saturday in Ford Field. Im gonna wear a Wings jersey and tell them to win like the Wings Joking, sorta. But it should be fun to go either way What does that have to do with anything concerning Michael Crabtree or the NFL rules? He isnt going to sit out, whats he going to do, go work at a bank? Get real guys forgot to delete that part..... I forgot how to do the winking smiley
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Post by Tim Tebow™ on Aug 6, 2009 23:12:41 GMT -5
What does that have to do with anything concerning Michael Crabtree or the NFL rules? He isnt going to sit out, whats he going to do, go work at a bank? Get real guys forgot to delete that part..... I forgot how to do the winking smiley *pretends to be you*;] OH DAMNIT*pretends to be you* ;D
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Post by wakeman on Aug 6, 2009 23:30:32 GMT -5
\ He's trying to get the most money he can... I can't really say I blame him. Especially given that it's possible that there could be no salary cap in the upcoming seasons, meaning he could possibly get more in free agency than he could from the draft. I agree to an extent but do NFL players or athletes in general really need that much money? It really bothers me when I see athletes holding off because 40 mil contract is not enough for them. Sports is becoming more about money than passion now. Unfortunately, that happened a long time ago.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Aug 6, 2009 23:54:00 GMT -5
Breaking News: Brett Favre is retur...Just Kidding.
Actual Breaking News: The Oakland Raiders have traded Traing Camp-Holdout DE Derrick Burgess to...where else?! The New England Patriots for undisclosed Draft Picks.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Aug 7, 2009 0:23:55 GMT -5
I think the only thing that bothers me about holdouts and the like, is when ROOKIES hold out. Donovan McNabb said it best, and it's not just because I'm a die-f***ing-hard Eagles fan that I'm pointing this out.
"I've seen what some of these guys did in college. Impressive, but can you do it in the NFL?"
Or something to that effect, not word for word a quote of what he said. Sure they were good in college, but the NFL is a WHOLE DIFFERENT FIELD. There are people out there, namely I'm calling out Brian Dawkins, that will rip your damn head off if you aren't careful around him on that field. Sheldon Brown did it to Reggie Bush in that 2007 playoff game. Anybody remember this?
Guarantee he never came across anything like that hard of a hit in Southern California.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 7, 2009 2:27:00 GMT -5
I remember watching that game, almost shat myself from horror.
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Aug 7, 2009 2:44:21 GMT -5
That Sheldon Brown hit is one of the hardest I've ever seen. Talk about getting the wind knocked out of ya, I'm surprised a lung didn't fly out.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 7, 2009 3:10:34 GMT -5
People who hold out like this bug me for some reason. How many people are there out there who would kill for a chance to play professional sports for a living? Yet, it'll never happen for 99.9% of those people because we're not tall enough, big enough, talented enough, etc.... I've 5'5" and 150. There's no way I'm playing in the NFL no matter how hard I try. Yet, here's a guy who has it all - talent, size, ability, etc.... He's busted his hump and now he has his chance. But, he's willing to throw it away because someone wants to give him $5 mil less than he thinks he's worth? It's ridiculous. What's ridiculous is that the team is willing to let their first round pick slide away for $5 million. Crabtree will land on his feet elsewhere. The 49ers aren't getting an extra first round pick because of this. I agree to an extent but do NFL players or athletes in general really need that much money? It really bothers me when I see athletes holding off because 40 mil contract is not enough for them. Sports is becoming more about money than passion now. It's easy to look at it from a distance and say "he doesn't NEED all that money." NFL careers are short. Very few guys in the NFL have the opportunity to make as much money as Michael Crabtree could make -- if I'm him, I'm milking it for all it's worth. "I've seen what some of these guys did in college. Impressive, but can you do it in the NFL?" Or something to that effect, not word for word a quote of what he said. Sure they were good in college, but the NFL is a WHOLE DIFFERENT FIELD. There are people out there, namely I'm calling out Brian Dawkins, that will rip your damn head off if you aren't careful around him on that field. Sheldon Brown did it to Reggie Bush in that 2007 playoff game. Anybody remember this? Guarantee he never came across anything like that hard of a hit in Southern California. ... That play was entirely Drew Brees' fault for leading Bush into a hit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 4:55:52 GMT -5
forgot to delete that part..... I forgot how to do the winking smiley *pretends to be you*;] OH DAMNIT*pretends to be you* ;D well played....
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Post by T R W on Aug 7, 2009 7:45:11 GMT -5
Apparently the Falcons signed Turd Ferguson and Marty Booker yesterday. Who needs Roddy White?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 7, 2009 11:00:04 GMT -5
People who hold out like this bug me for some reason. How many people are there out there who would kill for a chance to play professional sports for a living? Yet, it'll never happen for 99.9% of those people because we're not tall enough, big enough, talented enough, etc.... I've 5'5" and 150. There's no way I'm playing in the NFL no matter how hard I try. Yet, here's a guy who has it all - talent, size, ability, etc.... He's busted his hump and now he has his chance. But, he's willing to throw it away because someone wants to give him $5 mil less than he thinks he's worth? It's ridiculous. What's ridiculous is that the team is willing to let their first round pick slide away for $5 million. Crabtree will land on his feet elsewhere. The 49ers aren't getting an extra first round pick because of this. The fact remains that Crabtree hasn't done dick in the NFL. I've done just as much in the NFL as Crabtree has done. Take the freaking money. Yeah, they are short, but look at the money. $30 million invested properly will earn you $1.8 mill a year in interest. That's without touching the principle and factoring in inflation. If you get $35 mil, you're talking about $2.1 mil a year in interest. Again, that's without touching the principle. You could spend $2.1 mil a year for the rest of your life without touching the principle and that's just on one year's salary. I'm sorry, but if the difference is $400k a year for the rest of your life I can't feel sorry for you. 99% of people will never, ever earn $400k a year in their entire life so I can't feel sorry for him. Boo hoo. He's going to have to cut his lifestyle and spend the rest of his life living on only $1.8 mil a year instead of $2.1 mil a year. I'm sure his tiara is also too tight and his pony is the wrong color.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 7, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -5
The fact remains that Crabtree hasn't done dick in the NFL. I've done just as much in the NFL as Crabtree has done. Take the freaking money. So what if he hasn't done anything in the NFL? How is that relevant whatsoever? Top rookies get paid a lot of money. That's just how it is. He's going to try to get paid as much as possible. I can't believe anyone is acting like they wouldn't try to do the same thing. No player makes $35 million per year. Players might my make $35 million for a FEW years, but that's not the same thing. Then you have to consider the fact that they're taxed like crazy... Not to mention the fact that most of these guys spend their money like it's burning. I'm not saying that it's right that these guys use their money in the ways that they do, but let's be honest here for a minute -- $35 million doesn't last these guys as long as it should. So because it's good enough for you, it should be good enough for him? That's an interesting concept. Maybe Bill Gates should just give away ALL of his money, except about $35 million, right? Since $35 million is so much money that he wouldn't even know the difference if he invested it right? No. This is America. The 'American Dream' is predicated on the pursuit of happiness. Crabtree wants what he believes he's worth. There's nothing wrong with that, and for people to sit here and act like they wouldn't be fighting for every dime; is ridiculous.
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Post by T R W on Aug 7, 2009 11:20:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't blame Crabtree for trying to get what he can/ If I thought I could get $5 million more, I would try to get it. If we are still talking about this a month from now, then maybe let's go after his character.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 7, 2009 11:31:16 GMT -5
I just read more about this Crabtree thing on Yahoo and it's sounding even more ridiculous to me. Basically he wants to get paid more than Heyward even though Heyward was drafted ahead of him. Why? Because he's a better player (so he says). That's just ridiculous. It's a fact that Heyward was drafted before Crabtree therefore he gets more money than Crabtree. That's the way the NFL works. Link to Yahoo article - sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-michaelcrabtree080609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns. You want to prove you're better than Heyward? Fine. Go out on the field, outplay him and make Al Davis look like a fool. (Which isn't that hard to do actually.)
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 7, 2009 11:38:56 GMT -5
I got the news that depending on my exam schedule, my dad and I might go to the Giants/Carolina game in Week 16.
It's my first Giants game ever, so I'm kind of excited.
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Post by The Best on Aug 7, 2009 11:46:41 GMT -5
I got the news that depending on my exam schedule, my dad and I might go to the Giants/Carolina game in Week 16. It's my first Giants game ever, so I'm kind of excited. That's awesome, i've been to some of the Giants vs Pats preseason games and it's always a good time. A regular season game would be even better.
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Post by T R W on Aug 7, 2009 11:48:16 GMT -5
I hate that I have to buy pre-season tickets. It's painful to sit there, and watch people who won't make the team play for 3 hours, knowing i paid $100 to be there.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 7, 2009 11:57:30 GMT -5
I just read more about this Crabtree thing on Yahoo and it's sounding even more ridiculous to me. Basically he wants to get paid more than Heyward even though Heyward was drafted ahead of him. Why? Because he's a better player (so he says). That's just ridiculous. It's a fact that Heyward was drafted before Crabtree therefore he gets more money than Crabtree. That's the way the NFL works. Link to Yahoo article - sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-michaelcrabtree080609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns. You want to prove you're better than Heyward? Fine. Go out on the field, outplay him and make Al Davis look like a fool. (Which isn't that hard to do actually.) Generally-speaking, you're right that NFL contracts usually do follow down the line from 1st pick down... But in some cases, certain players are going to make more than guys who were drafted ahead of them, based on expectations.
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Post by T R W on Aug 7, 2009 12:06:10 GMT -5
Well, once we get the rookie salary cap, it won't matter soon anyway.
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