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Post by LtD73 on Sept 13, 2009 10:22:30 GMT -5
John Morrison vs Dolph Ziggler is not on the Breaking Point card because agents couldnt come up with a logical end to the match. Several ideas were rejected as the officials felt the finishes didnt benefit either superstar.
Source: Wrestlezone/Wrestling Observer
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 13, 2009 10:27:10 GMT -5
Honestly, whatever the reason is- it turned out to be a good idea. Why waste this match on a PPV when it has 1 week of buildup? They could have a pretty cool feud the upcoming weeks and then have their PPV match at HIAC.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Sept 13, 2009 11:01:49 GMT -5
...didn't benefit either superstar? What, could the agents only come up with DQs, countouts, or no-contests?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 11:02:12 GMT -5
I'll tell you why this match SHOULD still be on the card...
These two would put on an awesome match, regardless of "build-up" or the finish. How hard can it be to decide the outcome? If you want Morrison to retain the title, have him go over clean. If you want to give Ziggler the strap, either have him also go over clean or cheat somehow. It's really not that difficult.
Or even a controversial finish would work. Double count out, both men not answering the 10 count, both men's shoulders down simultaneously... something.
Like Shocker pointed out... it's just another case of WWE creative being too lazy to DO THEIR JOB.
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Post by Jimmy on Sept 13, 2009 11:04:52 GMT -5
How about a double pin, resulting in co-champions for the first time since 2000? It was kinda lame with Jericho/Chyna, but it could be cool with two guys like Morrison and Ziggler.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 11:06:41 GMT -5
Great idea, Jimmy.
I loved the double pin idea ( which is why I added it, after my post )... but adding that to it. Boom! Perfect ending to the match.
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Sept 13, 2009 11:16:35 GMT -5
Honestly, whatever the reason is- it turned out to be a good idea. Why waste this match on a PPV when it has 1 week of buildup? They could have a pretty cool feud the upcoming weeks and then have their PPV match at HIAC. Right! Instead we should get Miz vs. Kofi which had no build up instead. |
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Post by The Highwayman on Sept 13, 2009 11:19:22 GMT -5
Great idea, Jimmy. I loved the double pin idea ( which is why I added it, after my post )... but adding that to it. Boom! Perfect ending to the match. - Triple S Um, aren't all the matches submission only? Honestly, I think it's a good idea to keep the match off the card. Obviously, it would be a great match either way. But, now Ziggler can go off about how Morrison won the Title and his match with Rey got scrapped, now he's been screwed out of his shot again. He can blame Morrison for the reason he's not Champion... blah blah blah. It'll add fuel to the fire, and, at HIAC, they can still have a great match both wrestling and storyline-wise. |
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Post by DTP. on Sept 13, 2009 11:25:54 GMT -5
Really the only reason Miz/Kofi is going on imo is to either show Kofi as a fighting champion or to crown Miz as new champion. It's more reasonable than a match with next to no buildup.
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Post by irishcurse64 on Sept 13, 2009 11:38:19 GMT -5
Great idea, Jimmy. I loved the double pin idea ( which is why I added it, after my post )... but adding that to it. Boom! Perfect ending to the match. - Triple S Um, aren't all the matches submission only? Honestly, I think it's a good idea to keep the match off the card. Obviously, it would be a great match either way. But, now Ziggler can go off about how Morrison won the Title and his match with Rey got scrapped, now he's been screwed out of his shot again. He can blame Morrison for the reason he's not Champion... blah blah blah. It'll add fuel to the fire, and, at HIAC, they can still have a great match both wrestling and storyline-wise. Only the maain events are submission only.DX vs. Legacy ,Taker vs. Punk ,and Cena vs. Orton. |
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Post by s☠e on Sept 13, 2009 11:55:44 GMT -5
Is the ECW title match a submission match? I hope so ;D I'd love to see Regal win the belt in a straight up wrestling match, ending with submission.
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Post by koreygunz on Sept 13, 2009 12:30:54 GMT -5
Why didnt Dolph win the title off Rey in the first place? What was the point of having Morrison take it in a match with no build up, especially if he's only going to lost it to Ziggler in a few months.
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Post by lfcthorne on Sept 13, 2009 12:36:24 GMT -5
Is the ECW title match a submission match? I hope so ;D I'd love to see Regal win the belt in a straight up wrestling match, ending with submission. no, it's not |
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Post by MC2 on Sept 13, 2009 12:37:03 GMT -5
The double pin idea would be pretty cool, but the younger fans wouldn't really adjust to it so simply. So it probably would not work.
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Post by Edge618 on Sept 13, 2009 12:48:34 GMT -5
I suppose their reasoning is, that they dont want Ziggeler to look bad by losing another IC title match, but they dont want Morrison to have a one week reign as champion. I get that. What i dont get, is that why they didnt just have Ziggler beat Rey on SD!, since he's the one thats been chasing after it for months, instead they give it to Morrison who is out of the blue #1 contender. If Ziggler won in place of Morrison, Ziggler and Morrison could have started a feud, that led right into BP where Ziggler could have got a win by cheating or something. Then they could go on and feud into the next PPV. If they did it that way they wouldnt of had to scrap the match and it would of been more interesting that way.
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Post by instant classic on Sept 13, 2009 12:56:36 GMT -5
How about a double pin, resulting in co-champions for the first time since 2000? It was kinda lame with Jericho/Chyna, but it could be cool with two guys like Morrison and Ziggler. Agreed, that could work great. |
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Post by inrogers29 on Sept 13, 2009 13:57:39 GMT -5
How about a double pin, resulting in co-champions for the first time since 2000? It was kinda lame with Jericho/Chyna, but it could be cool with two guys like Morrison and Ziggler. Agreed, that could work great. I like that as well, could lead to some really entertaining segments. |
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Post by King Silva on Sept 13, 2009 15:54:12 GMT -5
What this makes me really mad that they couldn't come up with a finish for the match so they took it off the card. It was my favorite match on the card but now this PPV lost a lot of entertainment value for me at least..
And these people are suppose to be good writers and they can't decide on a finish to one match?
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Sept 13, 2009 16:25:19 GMT -5
...didn't benefit either superstar? What, could the agents only come up with DQs, countouts, or no-contests? With so little time invested into this, no matter the end, it wouldn't be good. If Morrison wins clean, well, Dolph has already lost two title shots to Mysterio, so three straight missed chances at the IC Title doesn't do him any favors. If Ziggler were to win clean, Morrison would have had the title all of two weeks, which wouldn't be very good. This one needs to be drawn out at least a bit more before the one on one match |
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