thereisnoart
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Post by thereisnoart on Oct 9, 2009 9:48:09 GMT -5
I apologize for this rant, but I've just had a gallon of coffee. I want to clarify I am not trying to start a fight or call anybody out - I am just totally confused by all the love for RA.
Can someone please explain to me why in the world people are so enraged over the announcement that the TNA figs will be DA style? I understand it's a matter of personal tastes, but why is this such a point of contention?
The only RA figs I've ever handled could barely even get into decent poses. The first one I bought was a Shawn Michaels. His leg wouldn't even go up high enough for him to believably sit in a chair! THE MASTER OF SWEET CHIN MUSIC COULDN'T EVEN DO SWEET SHIN MUSIC!!! I was pissed, but I picked up a Demolition 3-pack anyway and surprise! Same deal. RA figs have less movement-range in their legs than most elderly people in nursing homes. And it's not like they're fancy, detailed figures that aren't meant to move (like McFarlane toys). They're the most basic, barely detailed they can be. They all stand as stiffly and unrealistically as possible with their straight, immobile legs way too close together. I know it's a matter of opinion (and that's mine), but I am hoping someone can rationally explain why they are so devoted to RA.
The only reason I can think of is because they've sank hundreds (even thousands) of dollars into them already and they want everything from now unto eternity to be the exact same. Honestly, it's like saying “I've invested so much in these floppy drives, no way am I switching to CD-Rs”. Other than that, why is RA “better”? I always thought more articulation was the measuring stick for action figures (especially figures based on wrestling where bodies are constantly getting into the most extreme, outlandish contortions possible). We've been eating cold rice for so long that some people have gotten used to it.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Oct 9, 2009 9:51:03 GMT -5
I agree totally. I feel, too, that people are mad about TNA figs being DA because they've sank so much into RA and never gave DA a chance.
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Post by Iron Bison on Oct 9, 2009 9:55:39 GMT -5
F*CK YOU!!!!
nah, I'm kidding. I don't know why I like RA so much. I think to me, there is a certain charm to them. To play with, I do like DA alot. RA is just something different to me, they don't have to be super duper extra articulated to look good on a shelf, you know what I mean?
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Oct 9, 2009 10:00:10 GMT -5
We REALLY dont need this, seriously. Mate, this can only turn to bad things. Theres already enough anger/disappointment/disatisfaction over jakks decisions such as the choice of DA for TNA that the board needs no more. Both RA and DA have their advantages and disadvantages.
One is more display, one is more play, end of story and its personal preference.
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Post by Chip on Oct 9, 2009 10:04:13 GMT -5
For someone who doesnt play with his figures, I prefer RA over DA. They look better displayed on my shelf...in addition to standing up much better & easier than DA's
I like DA's and have a decent collection of them myself...I just have hundreds of RA style figures where as about 100 DA style. I was hoping to be able to add an awesom RA Sting, AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, etc...to my RA shelves
The cheapness & laziness that has gone into the WWE RA line by Jakks is only because they are done with the WWE at the end of the year so why are they going to lose more money per figure for something that doesnt matter. I GUARANTEE if Jakks never lost the WWE contract there wouldn't have been so many shortcuts and cheap outs in these last sets.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Oct 9, 2009 10:05:07 GMT -5
The number of guys we have in DA is a mere fraction of the number of guys who were made in RA style, the TNA figures can either match up with the couple dozen individuals we got in DA or they can match up with the hundreds we got in RA.
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Post by XHW on Oct 9, 2009 10:08:29 GMT -5
I prefer RA b/c we have more figures in that style and I just thing the DA look too big and stupid
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thereisnoart
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Post by thereisnoart on Oct 9, 2009 10:13:54 GMT -5
The cheapness & laziness that has gone into the WWE RA line by Jakks is only because they are done with the WWE at the end of the year so why are they going to lose more money per figure for something that doesnt matter. I GUARANTEE if Jakks never lost the WWE contract there wouldn't have been so many shortcuts and cheap outs in these last sets. I hope you're right. I myself am not really a TNA fan. I got back into wrestling about 2 years ago and started buying figs around that time. I was really disappointed with Jakks, so if my post sounded harsh it's because I wanted WWE figures to be awesome and felt like Jakks was just phoning it in. I can't wait for Mattel to take over. I hope Jakks ups their game with the TNA license. For me the biggest sticking point wasn't so much the articulation, but the scale. We REALLY dont need this, seriously. Mate, this can only turn to bad things. Theres already enough anger/disappointment/disatisfaction over jakks decisions such as the choice of DA for TNA that the board needs no more. Both RA and DA have their advantages and disadvantages. One is more display, one is more play, end of story and its personal preference. I can respect that. What prompted me to post, though, was some of the more outrageous posts I was seeing on the other threads - people melting down. It all seemed like an over-reaction to me and I was just trying to wrap my head around why there is such devotion to the line that I wasn't seeing.
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Post by Y3RP: LA MARAVILLA!!! on Oct 9, 2009 10:24:27 GMT -5
For someone who doesnt play with his figures, I prefer RA over DA. They look better displayed on my shelf...in addition to standing up much better & easier than DA'sI like DA's and have a decent collection of them myself...I just have hundreds of RA style figures where as about 100 DA style. I was hoping to be able to add an awesom RA Sting, AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, etc...to my RA shelves The cheapness & laziness that has gone into the WWE RA line by Jakks is only because they are done with the WWE at the end of the year so why are they going to lose more money per figure for something that doesnt matter. I GUARANTEE if Jakks never lost the WWE contract there wouldn't have been so many shortcuts and cheap outs in these last sets. this reason why, i perfer RA! dont get me wrong might start to collect DA this yr cause it be cheap to buy
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Post by LA Times on Oct 9, 2009 10:58:09 GMT -5
RA/CS has become the standard and has the greatest roster of wrestlers ever made in that form.
RIP Ruthless Aggression 2002-2009
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Post by recklessyouth on Oct 9, 2009 11:02:15 GMT -5
because DA's remind me of old Transformers figs. Over articulated.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 9, 2009 11:03:25 GMT -5
Ra are horrible "action figures" . The purpose of an action figure is to provide action. Ra's, as stated by the original poster do not. However, RA's are nearly 15 years old...ther is 15 years worth of mold design and collecting. The figures came out when TTl was around, and at the time RA's were revolutionary comparatively speaking. However, with the way action figures are now, RA's should be take off the shelves or at least should have a while ago, but they werent, and so you have a fanbase that has a line they've been collecting for years. Point is most people do not want to strat recollecting after investing thousands of dollars into their hobby. It's not that the style is that great)maybe it is for MOC collectors), but i think its' more that people dont want to have to recollect. that's my reasoning anyway.
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Post by DKR on Oct 9, 2009 11:24:25 GMT -5
Ra are horrible "action figures" . The purpose of an action figure is to provide action. Ra's, as stated by the original poster do not. However, RA's are nearly 15 years old...ther is 15 years worth of mold design and collecting. The figures came out when TTl was around, and at the time RA's were revolutionary comparatively speaking. However, with the way action figures are now, RA's should be take off the shelves or at least should have a while ago, but they werent, and so you have a fanbase that has a line they've been collecting for years. Point is most people do not want to strat recollecting after investing thousands of dollars into their hobby. It's not that the style is that great)maybe it is for MOC collectors), but i think its' more that people dont want to have to recollect. that's my reasoning anyway. What kind of math did you do to come up with "RA has been around 15 years?"
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Post by June on Oct 9, 2009 11:25:49 GMT -5
The best thing about RA figures is that they don't suck. The DA figures have too much articulation and leave nothing to the imagination. I remember pretending that my LJN and Hasbro Hogans could actually do the big boot and it did not hurt my game play.
I don't understand how some of you think the DA figs look more realistic when they have insect looking bodies and a ridiculous torso joint. I like my figures to resemble larger than life wrestling superstars and RA gives me that.
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Post by hbchris on Oct 9, 2009 11:26:16 GMT -5
I can't explain why anyone is enraged about the TNA figure announcement, but I can tell you that I prefer RAs because DAs look out of proportion to me. DAs have longer, more-articulated legs, but the arms and torsos didn't grow in proportion, so the figures look kinda lanky if they're just standing there for display. It's like they only went halfway.
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thereisnoart
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Post by thereisnoart on Oct 9, 2009 11:55:08 GMT -5
The best thing about RA figures is that they don't suck. The DA figures have too much articulation and leave nothing to the imagination. I remember pretending that my LJN and Hasbro Hogans could actually do the big boot and it did not hurt my game play. I don't understand how some of you think the DA figs look more realistic when they have insect looking bodies and a ridiculous torso joint. I like my figures to resemble larger than life wrestling superstars and RA gives me that. Hmm... that's an interesting thought. Back in the day, I liked the old Jakks rubbery-limbed figures for the same reason. As for DA, personally I'm not thrilled with those either. From what I've seen of Mattel's line, that's the closest to what I would personally make if I could design wrestling figures. Not only is the scale accurate, the details and sculpts are unique - plus they have the two separate lines so if articulation isn't that important to you, you can get the Basics. I think Jakks will do something closer to this with TNA in the future (if they can get distribution and ensure return on the investment) out of competition with Mattel. It will definitely be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Oct 9, 2009 11:55:57 GMT -5
The only reason, that doesn't come down to opinion, is that there are thousands of different RAs plus tons of different characters if you include all the RA style series including Rocky. DA is such a tiny range compared to RA so from a collector point of view RA is always going to win just because of the numbers.
The actual reason for there even being a constant RA/DA debate though is because DAs were technically a failure (because Jakks cheaped out too much on them). If they were just RAs with more POA (as they were supposed to be) then I'm pretty sure most people would prefer the extra articulation. However, the way they are they are all too big and lanky to go with RAs and the obscenely sparce selection of DA parts means they are mostly very innaccurate with wrong attires and mostly the same size/shape bodies regardless of what size the real life subject is.
So I don't think anyone really hates DAs on principle, it's just that they have always been so much more cheaped out on than RAs and I personally feel cheated enough buying RAs for £8-10 so there's no way I could spend even more on less accurate figures.
I'd collect any Jakks line that was in RA form, anyone who customises them would always be interested in having more parts and heads to use. I think Jakks have made the worst business decision of their lives (and that's saying something) scrapping RA. It was probably their only connection with their huge WWE fanbase, DA never even began to do what RA did under WWE so Jakks must be insane to try to start it almost from scratch with such an insignificant license compared to WWE.
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Post by will83 on Oct 9, 2009 12:35:23 GMT -5
I think it's not so much I like RA's but how much I hate DA's. the second they came out we were promised things that DA's never delivered.
Same height as RA's (never happened), Awesome new accessories (all we got was a horrid chair and intellectually- disabled shooting bench press bar....over and over and over in every figure). the figures themselves seemed way out of proportion. and was hard to get use to such loose limbs. for the money just didnt feel like I was getting something that was suppose to be superior. I just never felt that the DA line was something I needed to convert to. just seemed like an option that wasn't really sold very well to me.
Granted I am liking the UFC figures so far with certain exceptions like big heads and sometimes missing details. but so far have delivered what I expected.
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Post by T-Phunk on Oct 9, 2009 12:37:59 GMT -5
I like RA because the bodies are much more realistic, there are a greater variety of body types, and the figures don't fall over just because I walk by my display. My DA figures on display are constantly playing dominoes with themselves. Playability means absolutely nothing to me, because I am an action figure collector not a child playing with toys. My display has hundreds or more probably over a thousand RAs, I have been very loyal to the line, I would like them to give me the opportunity to let that collection grow further.
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Post by BCizzle on Oct 9, 2009 12:46:23 GMT -5
The DA's tend to be too lanky. I have no problem with them using DA for the TNA line, I'm sure they will make some very cool figs (and hopefully they stop half assing things or everybody is going to turn their backs on Jakks and it will go down in flames), but I hope they can make the figures look a little less string beany. It really makes the Undertaker look a bit wimpy.
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