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Post by edhardy on Oct 25, 2009 5:38:29 GMT -5
Machida truly is greatness. He beat logic tonight. FOR RUA: 18 FightMetric: 49-47 Rua Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua Savage Science: 49-46 Rua ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua spam.com: 48-47 Rua CagePotato: 49-46 Rua MMATorch : 48-47 Rua MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua MMAMania : 50-45 Rua 5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given) Fightlinker : Rua (no score given) MMAConvert: Rua ("Machida was given a gift") ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua Sherdog: Jordan Breen -- 48-47 Rua Brian Knapp -- 48-47 Rua Mike Fridley -- 50-45 Rua Sports Illustrated (thanks jamers): Ben Fowlkes - Rua ("They say you have to clearly beat the champion if you want to take his belt. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua seemed to have done just that at UFC 104 on Saturday night, but the mere fact that UFC light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida was still conscious at the end was apparently enough for the judges to give him the victory") Joss Gross: 48-47 Rua  EVEN DANA WHITE said Shogun WON. Oh yeah he also said the rematch is already in works. 
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 25, 2009 5:51:30 GMT -5
It just really shocks me. How do these judges not see what everyone else sees?
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 25, 2009 5:57:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Oct 25, 2009 7:51:13 GMT -5
Well, after seeing that shoddy decision, I have come to the conclusion that the UFC just didn't want Machida to go out like the past 2 UFC Light-Heavyweight champions of record, Rashad Evans and Forrest Griffin. Meaning losing the belt on his very first defense, so they blatantly screwed Shogun out of it just so he can hold it just a little bit longer.
That's about the only thing I can come up with after a horrible decision such as that.
"Welcome to the Machida Era"....The era of atrocious, one-sided judging...
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Post by EddieGuerreroRules on Oct 25, 2009 11:14:32 GMT -5
i told my friend if this goes to decision theres no way ufc would let machida lose
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 25, 2009 11:20:21 GMT -5
Its bullshit. Machida will be hated for no reason at all I know its not his fault. But Shogun won no doubt and the Judges are INSANE.
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Post by lancewiget on Oct 25, 2009 11:24:01 GMT -5
Shogun won. I don't really need to say anything else as Bob Sapp's post is what should've happened.
I picked Machida... but I don't like seeing people winning fights like this.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Oct 25, 2009 12:04:15 GMT -5
Here are the Official Judges Scorecards: Nelson Hamilton:  Cecil Peoples:  Marcos Rosales:  |
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Post by lancewiget on Oct 25, 2009 12:12:55 GMT -5
Wow... they really are morons.
What fight were they watching?
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Post by MuffFuzz on Oct 25, 2009 12:50:20 GMT -5
It was a rediculous call on the judges part, but to call the whole thing rigged; I think that's going overboard. I remember a few months ago people said the Silva/Griffin match was rigged.
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Post by Gore on Oct 25, 2009 13:09:32 GMT -5
The laughable part is they scored the first 3 rounds 10-9 for Machida, when those were the most decisive Shogun rounds.
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Post by Boquest on Oct 25, 2009 18:49:36 GMT -5
Well, after seeing that shoddy decision, I have come to the conclusion that the UFC just didn't want Machida to go out like the past 2 UFC Light-Heavyweight champions of record, Rashad Evans and Forrest Griffin. Meaning losing the belt on his very first defense, so they blatantly screwed Shogun out of it just so he can hold it just a little bit longer. That's about the only thing I can come up with after a horrible decision such as that. "Welcome to the Machida Era"....The era of atrocious, one-sided judging... You realize the UFC is not responsible for the judges/refs, they are supplied by the athletic commision, which is completely independent from the UFC? But good try. |
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 26, 2009 1:10:55 GMT -5
This isn't the first time in his career that Machida has won a bullcrapdecision.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 26, 2009 1:11:23 GMT -5
You realize the UFC is not responsible for the judges/refs, they are supplied by the athletic commision, which is completely independent from the UFC? But good try. While you bring up a good point, there's always the possibility that the judges would be bribed. |
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Post by Fury on Oct 26, 2009 3:37:52 GMT -5
This isn't the first time in his career that Machida has won a bullpoop decision. Oh come on if your talking about the Machida/Penn fight. Whilst Penn did hang with him and may of even taken a round or 2, Machida pretty much landed more shots & took/knocked down Penn & then just smothered him for the last 2. There really isn't that much of a comparison between that and this fight & it really wasn't that controversial. |
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Post by Boquest on Oct 26, 2009 12:05:25 GMT -5
You realize the UFC is not responsible for the judges/refs, they are supplied by the athletic commision, which is completely independent from the UFC? But good try. While you bring up a good point, there's always the possibility that the judges would be bribed. Definitley thats a valid point. I guess that could be a possibility, but really highly unlikely. UFC would not take a risk like that with trying to bride an athletic commission, the results if they got caught...would no where near weigh out the positives. It would bring SUCH negative exposure to the sport, and take years to get rid of that image to the public/media. Doesnt seem to weigh out the positives of Machida staying champion. But still...regardless....that decision was  ed up lol. |
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 26, 2009 12:28:34 GMT -5
Oh come on if your talking about the Machida/Penn fight. Whilst Penn did hang with him and may of even taken a round or 2, Machida pretty much landed more shots & took/knocked down Penn & then just smothered him for the last 2. There really isn't that much of a comparison between that and this fight & it really wasn't that controversial. I know, I was (mostly) kidding -- I still would've given that fight to BJ though, as he pushed the pace and... If you watch again, Penn actually lands more shots. It looks like Machida lands more fights, but they zoom in on many of Machida's flurries and you see that Penn completely dodges almost every punch he throws. Definitley thats a valid point. I guess that could be a possibility, but really highly unlikely. UFC would not take a risk like that with trying to bride an athletic commission, the results if they got caught...would no where near weigh out the positives. It would bring SUCH negative exposure to the sport, and take years to get rid of that image to the public/media. Doesnt seem to weigh out the positives of Machida staying champion. But still...regardless....that decision was ed up lol. I agree with you, I don't think it'd be rigged by UFC themselves. I'm not even saying it's rigged at all -- it just seems like such a terrible decision that I don't know how the hell they could've come to it. |
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Post by Jackson! on Oct 26, 2009 20:38:34 GMT -5
Well, after seeing that shoddy decision, I have come to the conclusion that the UFC just didn't want Machida to go out like the past 2 UFC Light-Heavyweight champions of record, Rashad Evans and Forrest Griffin. Meaning losing the belt on his very first defense, so they blatantly screwed Shogun out of it just so he can hold it just a little bit longer. That's about the only thing I can come up with after a horrible decision such as that. "Welcome to the Machida Era"....The era of atrocious, one-sided judging... You realize the UFC is not responsible for the judges/refs, they are supplied by the athletic commision, which is completely independent from the UFC? But good try. Just like what Dana White said about Steve Mazzagati "He shouldnt even be allowed to watch MMA let alone referee it" I never noticed how heavy the state commision is on the UFC. |
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Post by Sandy on Oct 27, 2009 2:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 27, 2009 13:55:24 GMT -5
Wow Lyoto is a d-bag for actually beleiving this. He thinks he won 4 rounds... Seriously...
“I thought it was a very even and tough fight. I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds. The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight. Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior. I had three or four chances to finish the fight, and he never put me in danger. I didn’t get (dazed) at any moment of the fight, but I put him in danger three or four times. He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn’t knock me out with that. This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”
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