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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 14, 2010 20:21:22 GMT -5
I think from the East, Cleveland, Boston, and Orlando can win it all. I don't think anybody can beat the Lakers either but any of those teams would at least have a shot if that was their Finals opponent.
From the West I see LA coming out on top, but if Kobe keeps playing hurt, runs himself ragged, and is playing on an empty tank in the playoffs, that team is very beatable. Especially by teams like Dallas, Denver, and San Antonio.
I still think the Lakers' roster is overrated (Odom is borderline intellectually- disabled and inconsistent, Bynum is a season-ending injury waiting to happen, and their bench is brutally bad) but if Kobe is playing well late in the season, they're the best team in the NBA since the dynasty days of the Bulls.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 14, 2010 20:27:48 GMT -5
Doug Collins just said "Big Baby Glen Davis is really battling to get back into shape after that thumb injury"
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 14, 2010 20:33:12 GMT -5
Maybe its my deep down homerism and hatred for the Lakers, but I dont think they are clearly ahead of the other teams (Not saying you guys are saying it), but I just dont see it. They have had a weak schedule, they havnet been challenged or had to deal with any kind of tribulations this year...where as Boston has had the most injuries out of the big teams, the Magic have had injuries, Cleveland (IMO) is just hoping that the sidekicks arent going to corrupt Lebron's path to the title.
It's still early, I think all the teams....maybe not the Lakers, but I expect the others to make moves too and the Lakers start coming east in a few weeks ( I got tickets), so until then, its all a toss up to me
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 14, 2010 21:09:34 GMT -5
LA's had injuries, I don't think they've played too many games where they've had a full lineup. Every week there seems to be somebody missing. LA's has played a crazy amount of home games but I would contend that not one team would want to take on their second half of their schedule. I think they have a 8 or 9 game road trip which is just insane.
I think Boston has had a rrrrrrrrrreally easy schedule too. Not as many home games as LA, but they've probably played more crap team's than LA has being in the east. I think there was a stretch between the Orlando games (over one month) where they only played two teams with winning records and in those two team you had one just barely holding themselves above .500(Heat) and the other who hadn't hit their stride yet and were playing like crap (Spurs). Boston's schedule is just now getting tougher but even when the season is all said and done the Lakers will have faced more quality teams playing in the Western Conference.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 14, 2010 21:20:13 GMT -5
LA's had injuries, I don't think they've played too many games where they've had a full lineup. Every week there seems to be somebody missing. LA's has played a crazy amount of home games but I would contend that not one team would want to take on their second half of their schedule. I think they have a 8 or 9 game road trip which is just insane. I think Boston has had a rrrrrrrrrreally easy schedule too. Not as many home games as LA, but they've probably played more crap team's than LA has being in the east. I think there was a stretch between the Orlando games (over one month) where they only played two teams with winning records and in those two team you had one just barely holding themselves above .500(Heat) and the other who hadn't hit their stride yet and were playing like crap (Spurs). Boston's schedule is just now getting tougher but even when the season is all said and done the Lakers will have faced more quality teams playing in the Western Conference. Boston has played: Orlando twice, Atlanta 3 times, Cleveland and San Antonio once, Phoenix twice, New Orleans, Miami, Memphis, OKC and have played 21 out of a possible 37 on the road...13 games with teams over .500, 2 with a team right under .500 Obviously the West is better, but when you play 24 out of 39 games at home and their longest "road trip" of the year was 5 games against the juggernaut Bucks, Nets, Bulls, Pistons and the only good team the Jazz. The Lakers have had the easiest schedule so far, its really not even close. Boston has played 16 home games, Cleveland 17, Orlando 18, 8 more home games than Boston is a lot.
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 14, 2010 21:38:36 GMT -5
Are you really trying to say Boston's had a tough schedule? C'mon, Ralpho. I know you're big homer sometimes but you cannot convince me that they've had it tough. Some of those teams mentioned were playing like crap when Boston played them. Cleveland struggled throough the first few weeks, the Spurs played like crap, OKC had a losing record as did Memphis who is just now playing good. You played the Hornets the 1st of NOV before they fired the coach because they were sucking so bad.
The only good teams they've faced when those teams were actually playing good were the Magic, Hawks and the Suns. 7 games and Boston is 1-6 in those games BTW.
Like I said, Lakers schedule has been weak and by that I mean they've played a lot of home games, but I still think they've probably played tougher teams and easily have the worst second half schedule in the league.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 14, 2010 21:45:10 GMT -5
Doug Collins just said "Big Baby Glen Davis is really battling to get back into shape after that thumb injury" I'm a huge fan of Doug Collins and his frequently-unintentional humor. He's a freaking basketball mastermind though. It's a shame he's never been able to manage a locker room though.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jan 14, 2010 21:50:07 GMT -5
wat a horrid loss to the bobcats....still not over that Rockets loss
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Post by user9327 on Jan 15, 2010 1:24:55 GMT -5
LeBron just single handedly took a giant crapon the Jazz in the 4th quarter... was that 5 three point plays?
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Post by user9327 on Jan 15, 2010 1:51:16 GMT -5
best game of the season, the Jazz had a rookie who joined the team yesterday from the D-League and played well when Williams went down, the kid ended up making a game winning three after the Jazz tried to chip away at a lead for the NBA 45 second eternity.... big shout out to Mike Brown, blowing this game for the Cavs by drawing up clown in bound plays to get Big Z and LeBron the ball instead of his free throw shooters.
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Post by T R W on Jan 16, 2010 10:50:01 GMT -5
It's so surreal to see the Hawks winning games that they wouldn't have won even a year ago.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 16, 2010 16:49:18 GMT -5
I told you all Jamal Crawford was a team player for years... even when the Knicks were at their worst
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 16, 2010 16:52:11 GMT -5
I think Crawford is a case of trying to "get his" when he's on bad teams, but definitely a great third option that can play his role when he's on good teams. He seems like a very decent guy so I'm glad he's doing well (finally).
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Post by user9327 on Jan 16, 2010 17:06:31 GMT -5
I don't know why you'd think that.
When he played for the Knicks he played the same way I've seen him play for Atlanta... play team defense, work the ball and pass it around when it's the right play and when you are hot, shoot the ball. He's always hustled and played hard, always been a team player. He's always tried to get the big men involved. I really don't know why people think negatively of him beyond that he's a gunner when he's hot. That's his game, that's what he's told to do.
He's never ruined any teams or been the focal point of a negative situation. He's never been in trouble. He's never had any team or coach issues that I can remember. He's played out of position or come off the bench more times in his career than he's started and he's never complained or been even a minor issue.
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Post by The Future on Jan 16, 2010 20:27:30 GMT -5
My Nets are just perfecting the art of losing this year...all around, just a flawless performance.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2010 0:49:36 GMT -5
God, we need KG back, that 3rd quarter was disgusting.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 19, 2010 12:27:58 GMT -5
Told you all LeBron wouldn't dunk and that he was just trying to steal every bit of spotlight he possibly could.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 19, 2010 18:44:27 GMT -5
Concerning the LeBron not dunking I think you're scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I only say this because you are assuming you know his inner thoughts about a dunk contest. But really, who cares? It's the dunk contest. The guy is in a contract year and probably wants to go all out and can't. You didn't tell us anything except your opinion on why he won't dunk. My opinion is he'd be smart not to in a contract year. If you think it has to do with the spotlight then that's you. I'm sure that's some of it, but this is the dunk contest after all. Aren't spotlights and ego's the number one and two attributes?
Personally I think it's hard not to put him back at number 1 overall individually in the league because of how Cleveland is neck and neck with LA after LA's easy schedule. Everybody made a big deal out of LA starting out tearing it up. Well, apparently Cleveland did too and didn't they BEAT LA? Carmelo is still arguably the best player in the NBA this year, Kevin Durant gets mention but he also still has more help than LeBron and Carmelo in terms of scoring and he cools off some times in the 4th. He's right on the edge of becoming as big of a deal though.
I think KG's prime is over and I also think more people would be talking about the Celtics rebuilding had Paul Pierce not started so well in the first 10 games of so saving their early run and putting them in the position they are in now. Paul Pierce won't get credit in the MVP talks because he missed some time and cooled off at times, but any moron could see what he did at the beginning of the year and know he is the Celtics MVP and what are the Celtics? A top 4 team in the league.
ESPN showed a who's number 1 the other night for dunking, when I watched KG's highlights of Minnesota I realized I forgot how athletic he used to be. I had gotten too used to this current KG.
The Celtics have a good core unit with a good game plan but they need to get him on the court because this year could be it for that core unit. Garnett cant seem to stay healthy or find the spring in his jump.
It's also been about a year or more since I've seen Kevin Garnett jump more than once during a possession and not look like a semi athletic white guy. I haven't seen Kevin Garnett in prime conditioning in a while and that's because every time he gets close and pushes, he seems to get hurt again.
I just don't see how he's going to be strong for the playoffs with the rate he's been going at for a year now. Defensively he'll be fine, but if I'm Orlando or Cleveland, I'm taking it right at him every time, hard.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2010 20:44:38 GMT -5
This "injury" Garnett has is just a cover for rest, thats all it is. I am sure hes banged up and sore, but he could play, but they want to give him rest and I bet they will do it again before the playoffs.
He's obviously not the same as he was but I am not writing him off at all, he can still be dominant and he shown it this year
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Post by user9327 on Jan 20, 2010 0:10:38 GMT -5
Dominant on defense with a team effort.
I'm not writing him off either. I'm just saying his best days are behind him individually and it's probably going to be a decline from here on out.
I dunno about the rest theory, that doesn't really happen when you're playing for home court advantage these days. He had just worked so hard to get back into shape and had all that time off, why would he need rest unless he's not 100%? It could be an extended break due to some rest and preventative thinking, but I haven't seen this guy look anything near 100% since he came up hobbling in Utah early in 2009.
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