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Post by spreedom8 on May 15, 2010 11:20:52 GMT -5
That series will never be broadcast again after the Tim Donaghy scandal.... it's a videolog of a crime scene.... That my first year I actually started to become an avid NBA watcher. Was Donaghy actually officiating in that series? And I'm guessing your saying that for all the times the refs put Wade on the FT line right? I don't believe Donaghy officiated during that series, but yes, Wade shot such a completely unreasonable number of free throws (for phantom fouls, in many cases on plays where he wasn't even touched) the league would probably be embarrassed to have it broadcasted again. |
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Post by Quanthor on May 15, 2010 11:33:46 GMT -5
The NBA probably paid off the entire Mavs team for that game 4 performance.
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Post by spreedom8 on May 15, 2010 12:21:05 GMT -5
Yeah, they flat out played poorly in game four, and probably would have lost either way. It's games five and six where it gets ridiculous.
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Post by user9327 on May 15, 2010 15:41:16 GMT -5
I enjoyed seeing the Pistons win in 2004, the Spurs titles and KG get his ring in Boston.
Seeing Stan Van Gundy get a ring after losing his chance in Miami and the turmoil of last playoffs where people questioned his ability would be nice. Watching the Celtics win with team work would be nice too.
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Post by Quanthor on May 15, 2010 16:46:45 GMT -5
To me they have all have pretty much sucked. In the last 10 to 12 years they have ranged from average to boring to disappointing and to mostly being lopsided. None of them will be considered classics like 80's Lakers/Celtics, Pistons/Lakers, Suns/Bulls, Rockets/Knicks, Jazz/Bulls, etc.. There's been some unbelievable playoff series', but none of them of been in the Finals. Even when TNT did their "All Decade" show, there were very few Finals nominees in the categories. I'm nost sure why they have been so uneventful because once upon a time they almost always delivered.
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Post by user9327 on May 15, 2010 17:12:49 GMT -5
No doubt. It's because the NBA isn't as potent with players who are ready for that moment.
But it's still possible, but probably not over 4 or more games.
There isn't a shooter's mentality like there used to be. I think that's due to watered down defense. Guys in the 80's kept shooting during adversity all through the regular season and the playoffs were always a step up, but never a complete change like they are now.
The regular season didn't mean more back then, but there were more intense games by far. Probably because less were on TV and those were the ones we saw, and overall there were better role players to support these superstar match up's.
Not taking anything away from guys like Bill Lambier or Kevin McHale... but they were role players who were capable of stepping up and fitting the superstar mold from time to time. They knew who they were but they knew what they were as well.
This is why the Spurs and Pistons stuck around all last decade. It's why the Sonics had a great season when Ray Allen came in after Payton, it's why the Suns have kept it going for quite some time, it's why the Jazz never really fell off (they don't have many lottery picks on their roster, Bulls timeline, in comparison, do). There's people on each of those teams still creating an older style community, from the fans to the office.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on May 16, 2010 16:27:30 GMT -5
Well this was unexpected.
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Post by T R W on May 16, 2010 16:44:35 GMT -5
Just got back in town, and glad to see Mike Woodson is no longer in it.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on May 16, 2010 17:27:40 GMT -5
Huge win, steals home court and shows the Magic the Celtics arent the same team as the regular season.
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Post by user9327 on May 16, 2010 17:31:36 GMT -5
Homecourt is huge. I gotta watch my tape though I was outside all day getting my sweat on.
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Post by instant classic on May 16, 2010 17:39:19 GMT -5
a win is a win, but damn they almost blew that.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on May 16, 2010 17:41:43 GMT -5
a win is a win, but damn they almost blew that. That's just how the Celtics roll. Orlando was not as bad as they were playing, it was bound to even out. |
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Post by Quanthor on May 16, 2010 17:43:15 GMT -5
Part rust, part C's defense and sprinkle a little bit of too much power game on top and you got yourself a Magic loss.
The C's are playing great b-ball right now, maybe better than anyone, but the one thing I look at that is exactly like the Celtics regular season play, is continuing to allow team's back into ball games when they should have been choked into submission. That's a characteristic they have yet to shake and one that could make the difference between winning and losing.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on May 16, 2010 17:50:29 GMT -5
Part rust, part C's defense and sprinkle a little bit of too much power game on top and you got yourself a Magic loss. The C's are playing great b-ball right now, maybe better than anyone, but the one thing I look at that is exactly like the Celtics regular season play, is continuing to allow team's back into ball games when they should have been choked into submission. That's a characteristic they have yet to shake and one that could make the difference between winning and losing. True, but not as much as the regular season. They finished/put their foot on the throat of the Cavs in games 2, 5, 6 and even a bit in game 4. So I agree its a worry, its not as bad as the regular season |
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Post by Jamal on May 17, 2010 10:29:27 GMT -5
The Magic can say it was rust, but other than Allen and Pierce, No one else had a great game. Garnett, and Rondo were both average and are bound to play much better.
Also Pierce will probably stay consistent offensively since he wont have to work too hard defensively.
Game 2 is huge for the Magic. If they don't win that game, I really don't see them winning the series.
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Post by twinn on May 17, 2010 17:22:03 GMT -5
Based on everything I keep seeing and hearing on ESPN, Chicago is the frontrunner in the Lebron sweepstakes; and that makes me very happy
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Post by Quanthor on May 17, 2010 19:56:49 GMT -5
There is no frontrunner, it's all hearsay and speculation.
Each market can offer him something different..
Cleveland - Most money, home town.
Chicago - Building blocks
NY - Biggest stage
NJ - The franchise
Miami - Wade, south beach.
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Post by user9327 on May 17, 2010 20:49:03 GMT -5
NY offers the most options and best cap situation for years to come.
But I'm trying to not pay attention to or talk about anything except what LeBron or his agent say.
It's hilarious watching those espn commentators go from "no way he's leaving," "50/50," to "absolutely" in less than 24 hours. I swear, one of them did that.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on May 17, 2010 23:07:42 GMT -5
NY only offers the most options if the options want to play there...would he choose Rose/Noah or Joe Johnson/Danilo Galinari? That's the question, but who knows if the Knicks get anything in place before Lebron signs, if he wants "stability" he needs to either make an agreement with Bosh or someone to go in the same place or take whats on the team already.
Should be fun, I LOVE HOT STOVE
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Post by user9327 on May 17, 2010 23:20:15 GMT -5
Bulls don't have many shooters that make them that vastly different than Cleveland from the field. But defensively it's no question who is better. I just don't think Kirk Hinrich and Derek Rose are the answer when LeBron drives the lane. They also don't have a post option offensively that could take on the Lakers, Celtics or Magic. Noah is a great player but he's a rebounder and defender first.
The Bulls would be stuck with that team going forward. They are a step up defensively but how much of an upgrade is this, if we're judging against Orlando, LA and Boston?
The Knicks just need to get some players for this season to compete. If they don't hit a home run with LeBron or another big free agent, they have so much to work with in cash over the next two seasons.
I love watching the media have to stomach that the Knicks are only going up from here.
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