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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 29, 2010 20:42:05 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett has better numbers, more titles, more MVP's, more all NBA teams, more all defensive teams, more DPOTY awards than Reggie Miller, and its not even close.
Apples and bowling balls. Garnett is a first ballot HOF'er before he got to Boston.
Try again
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 29, 2010 21:04:29 GMT -5
Mellow out.
Nobody disputed any of those things or said KG wasn't great. He's just a bitch, that's all.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 29, 2010 21:06:56 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett was a HOFer before he even came to Boston.
I still lol at all the Reggie hate; name calling, vaginal references, making him out to be a woman. The guy is clearly a man, a hell of a player and you've offered no real facts or incidents to support such bashing. Meanwhile, Paul Pierce got a pass when he threw up a gang sign in a playoff game on a rookie. Reggie is one of the greats from the 90's and his CONSTANT playoff presence and success while being the focal point of multiple teams just makes anybody bashing him for how he looks or whatever rah rah that is, look silly. Especially when you supported Paul Pierce for years while he was accumulating the longest tenure for any Celtic star without a Championship. Overall, before Garnett there, Paul Pierce's entire career was a failure, a bust. Say what you want about Reggie, his dirty play, his holding, how he looks as a human... the Pacers just got better every year he was there until his physical decline. The Celtics declined with Pierce as their Franchise player, to the point of tanking games for Greg Oden... all during Pierce's prime.
Ironically enough, Mitch Richmond did win an NBA championship, on the Lakers as a pile on reserve. But yes, his career is overlooked often, probably because when you play for Golden State for a year and then go to the Kings before they ever mattered, you are going to be remembered for not winning.
Why aren't we calling Mitch Richmond a bitch for always playing for losing teams while being a hell of a player? I mean, we'll bash Reggie (franchise winner) and lower his value in this thread but we'll say Danny Granger is the best SF in the league over guys like Carmelo and Kevin Durant? But because Reggie Miller leads his team to contention and fairly deep in the playoffs consistently, but doesn't win a title, he's some shame? But Danny Granger, who has never even played anywhere NEAR a .500 team, is the best SF in the NBA?
I'll be the first to tell you that for years Paul Pierce was a clown and still sorta is at times. But I think he's learned his lessons and matured and also knows he was about 3 days away from being traded out of Boston had Kevin McHale not given them Kevin Garnett for a bag of chips. Reggie Miller won with worse situations than Pierce had before Garnett was there. I personally think less of Paul Pierce but I don't get my own wanna be vagina all in a fuss over it. I don't like Reggie all that much but I respect him.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 29, 2010 21:27:17 GMT -5
Yeah my hate has nothing to do with the Celtics, but thanks for bringing them in to bait me.
MY HATE FOR REGGIE MILLER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, THE CELTICS, GREG ODEN OR MITCH RICHMOND.
I've hated him for years, I think hes a terrible announcer and a phony. *NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CELTICS*
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 29, 2010 22:15:59 GMT -5
I spent a ton of $ on the Celtics this year, and a ton of $ on them for the Lakers game....and now they are going to get run out of the gym.
Awesome
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 29, 2010 22:22:45 GMT -5
We just witnessed some of the most ridiculously unrelated, blatant baiting I've ever seen.
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Post by BV on Jan 29, 2010 22:46:29 GMT -5
Peja, love the J. But please, never try and ing drive and get a layup again. Plz? Steal with 8 seconds left in OT. A timeout remaining, which you DONT call. And you put the ball in DARREN COLLISONS HANDS? Instead of Chris Pauls..? What...the... ..
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Post by T R W on Jan 29, 2010 23:25:27 GMT -5
Sorry for the sweep Ralpho.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 30, 2010 0:08:45 GMT -5
Sorry for the sweep Ralpho. Just wish I put money on this, after last nights disgrace, I could have made a ton
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 1:45:19 GMT -5
We just witnessed some of the most ridiculously unrelated, blatant baiting I've ever seen. bait? what was i fishing for? more talk about vaginas and no real reasons as to why a guy is all this derogatory crap? you can act superior all you want but that doesn't make danny granger any better than outside the top 30 in the nba and ralpho still isn't sure if the celtics play 2 or 4 west coast teams per year, experts. now that... that's bait. stop complaining about being wrong and having to own up to it months later.... isn't that what bold predictions are for? not for you to complain about months later when they are a joke? as if you wouldn't come back banking on it if they came true? it is, what it is.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 1:49:56 GMT -5
Yeah my hate has nothing to do with the Celtics, but thanks for bringing them in to bait me. MY HATE FOR REGGIE MILLER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, THE CELTICS, GREG ODEN OR MITCH RICHMOND. I've hated him for years, I think hes a terrible announcer and a phony. *NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CELTICS* obviously i wasn't trying to make a correlation between your hate for reggie and love for the celtics. i was making a comparison of how your biased seems to work and how much of a logical fallacy it really is. but obviously you knew that and were just trying to change my own words for me, as usual.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 30, 2010 10:30:35 GMT -5
you can act superior all you want but that doesn't make danny granger any better than outside the top 30 in the nba and ralpho still isn't sure if the celtics play 2 or 4 west coast teams per year, experts. now that... that's bait. stop complaining about being wrong and having to own up to it months later.... isn't that what bold predictions are for? not for you to complain about months later when they are a joke? as if you wouldn't come back banking on it if they came true? it is, what it is. I'm not even going to touch that conversation that we already agreed upon a month ago that you're trying to start up again. And it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller....
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 30, 2010 12:23:28 GMT -5
you can act superior all you want but that doesn't make danny granger any better than outside the top 30 in the nba and ralpho still isn't sure if the celtics play 2 or 4 west coast teams per year, experts. now that... that's bait. stop complaining about being wrong and having to own up to it months later.... isn't that what bold predictions are for? not for you to complain about months later when they are a joke? as if you wouldn't come back banking on it if they came true? it is, what it is. I'm not even going to touch that conversation that we already agreed upon a month ago that you're trying to start up again. And it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller.... ....just like the supposed Paul Pierce gang sign that happened like 10 years ago, and again, has nothing to do with Reggie Miller
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 30, 2010 14:51:52 GMT -5
Another good Bobcats win last night. Hopefully they can handle the Kings tonight too.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 16:23:03 GMT -5
you can act superior all you want but that doesn't make danny granger any better than outside the top 30 in the nba and ralpho still isn't sure if the celtics play 2 or 4 west coast teams per year, experts. now that... that's bait. stop complaining about being wrong and having to own up to it months later.... isn't that what bold predictions are for? not for you to complain about months later when they are a joke? as if you wouldn't come back banking on it if they came true? it is, what it is. I'm not even going to touch that conversation that we already agreed upon a month ago that you're trying to start up again. And it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller.... LOL, I never agreed with you that Danny Granger is better than Camelo and Kevin Durant... you may think so.... but I'm not that silly. Nice try though. and that CHRIS PAUL is having a more deserving MVP year than LeBron? these are just recent history, I can bring up Jameer Nelson's top tier PG status you dubbed him with? How's that one working out for you? And yes, once again, it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller. But when you're discounting Reggie Miller, OF COURSE you're going to hear about all your bold predictions and opinions months after they turned to a joke. Don't complain, YOU MADE THESE POINTS. I'm reminding you. grow up "waaaaa you're bringing up all my predictions that are pathetic now waaaa, not fair I'm not participating!" Nice try, but you still think Danny Granger is better than Melo. So you can roll with that.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 16:31:47 GMT -5
I'm not even going to touch that conversation that we already agreed upon a month ago that you're trying to start up again. And it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller.... ....just like the supposed Paul Pierce gang sign that happened like 10 years ago, and again, has nothing to do with Reggie Miller Actually the gang sign happened a year ago, first round of the playoffs against Atlanta after Pierce was dunked on by a rookie. But, you know this, you were here for this.... and you acted like the biggest, Paul Pierce cock loving, gigantic baby, homer bitch. to run and defend his dirty name. Hmmm, but Reggie is a bitch.... and you don't understand why I think it's ridiculous you call him one? Maybe you're just not that quick... maybe you're just the one who has sensitive feelings and can't stand being wrong? You've yet to explain why Reggie is a bitch and a vagina... btw. So yea, not looking good for you when you keep side stepping those requests and then misquoting history. Don't blame me... you make these claims and then are asked about them and react like you lost your memory. LOL.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 16:46:40 GMT -5
I'm gonna just close this out with the same questions that causes you two to go into superior mode...
If you didn't want to EVER hear about your Danny Granger best SF in the NBA prediction again, why did you make that list in the first place and post it here publically as a prediction? For it to never be talked about? Ever again? I don't get it.
and Ralpho, why did you post all of those terrible things about Reggie Miller... did you think nobody would ask you why you thought those things? Did you post them just to not get any response?
I don't get it guys. Seems to me that if Danny Granger was averaging 50 points a game this year and Reggie had pictures online taking out a tampon that we'd be ALL for continuing these topics.
But, apparently not. And apparently I'm wrong for talking about them? Because you're wrong and don't want to own up to them?
<3 this place.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 30, 2010 18:56:46 GMT -5
I'm not even going to touch that conversation that we already agreed upon a month ago that you're trying to start up again. And it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller.... LOL, I never agreed with you that Danny Granger is better than Camelo and Kevin Durant... you may think so.... but I'm not that silly. Nice try though. and that CHRIS PAUL is having a more deserving MVP year than LeBron? these are just recent history, I can bring up Jameer Nelson's top tier PG status you dubbed him with? How's that one working out for you? And yes, once again, it has nothing to do with Reggie Miller. But when you're discounting Reggie Miller, OF COURSE you're going to hear about all your bold predictions and opinions months after they turned to a joke. Don't complain, YOU MADE THESE POINTS. I'm reminding you. grow up "waaaaa you're bringing up all my predictions that are pathetic now waaaa, not fair I'm not participating!" Nice try, but you still think Danny Granger is better than Melo. So you can roll with that. Dude, chill out -- I agreed with YOU that Melo and Durant were having better seasons this year than Granger. But don't let that get in your way, since you seem to want to pick a dumbass argument with anyone that will listen right now. Also, don't let the fact that I never once said he was the best SF in the league (although it feels like each of your last 45 posts -- none of which had anything to do with that discussion -- say I did) get in your way. I've agreed for the last 5 years that LeBron has been head and shoulders above the rest of the league at that position. And also, I said that if the Hornets finish above .500 in the West, Chris Paul deserves consideration.
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Post by T R W on Jan 30, 2010 22:03:04 GMT -5
Christ, give it a freaking rest.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 30, 2010 22:06:19 GMT -5
I really can't do this crap anymore. I never saw you ever admit that Melo was better than Granger. Ever. But you'll speak for me, implying I did.
Who cares.
The argument that if the Hornets finish above .500 in the West CP3 should be MVP is absolutely ridiculous too.
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