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Post by June on Nov 8, 2009 16:17:07 GMT -5
I was by no means a fan of Lex Lugar's forced push as Hogan's replacement, but for the life of me I can't comprehend why he was not given the World Title after all that build up leading in the SummerSlam of 93 versus Yoko.
As a Lugar fan I was letdown even if I hated the gimmick. Did Lex do anything to screw up which can explain why he was not given the strap that night?
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Jay "The Brain" Mann [OFSU]
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Post by Jay "The Brain" Mann [OFSU] on Nov 8, 2009 16:21:14 GMT -5
Didn't he tell a reporter that he would win at a bar when he was drunk?
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 8, 2009 16:26:31 GMT -5
Didn't he tell a reporter that he would win at a bar when he was drunk? No, that was the story at WrestleMania X. The thinking was Vince wanted to hold off on Luger until WrestleMania, further building him up in a big feud with Lugvig Borga. Of course, losing at SS killed of Luger's credibility/heat and showed Bret as the true #1 babyface. |
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Post by Matt on Nov 8, 2009 21:34:19 GMT -5
The thinking was Vince wanted to hold off on Luger until WrestleMania, further building him up in a big feud with Lugvig Borga. Vince McMahon had to have his head screwed on backwards if he thought this would have ever worked. |
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Post by June on Nov 8, 2009 21:42:23 GMT -5
The thinking was Vince wanted to hold off on Luger until WrestleMania, further building him up in a big feud with Lugvig Borga. Vince McMahon had to have his head screwed on backwards if he thought this would have ever worked. Agreed, but I did like Luvig's vignette that aired before his match at SummerSlam. I'm not wrestling promoter, but I would have given the fans the payoff that they wanted and had Lex take the championship, then have Lugar enter into his feud with Borga as not only Mr USA, but also as the World Champion. |
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Post by DTP. on Nov 9, 2009 2:36:28 GMT -5
Vince was pushing Luger like he was the new Hogan...it didn't work because the era of the All-Amercian superhero had began to fade to the WWF audience. Bret Hart was over enough, so they soon replaced Luger for Bret.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Nov 9, 2009 18:08:00 GMT -5
Luger worked better with the Narcissist gimmick than with the "Made in the U.S.A" gimmick. He should've gotten far with the physique, Bobby Heenan as his mouthpiece and a natural flair for being a heel, but things didn't turn out that way.  |
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Post by Isle of Lucy on Nov 10, 2009 2:35:17 GMT -5
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Not really sure why exactly.
The "All American" hero gimmick got him over far beyond the Narcissist one, but I think Vince had the thinking that dispite little kids loving the Lex Express, the kids who loved the "Hulk Hogan American Hero" were growing up, thus the change forced him to subside the push with the strap.
Hart happened to be a sure-fire thing at the time, so he wound up being "the man".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 18:27:00 GMT -5
Vince was still in the mindset of long term champs IMO.....and I think he wanted Yokos reign to be one of dominance with big victims.
if Luger had beaten him at SS he would have to have dropped it somewhere between SS and RR........making the title change at Mania less of an impact.
I wonder was there really ever any plan for Luger to win at WMX?or is it just rumor?I do often wonder......
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 10, 2009 18:46:05 GMT -5
Vince was still in the mindset of long term champs IMO.....and I think he wanted Yokos reign to be one of dominance with big victims. if Luger had beaten him at SS he would have to have dropped it somewhere between SS and RR........making the title change at Mania less of an impact. I wonder was there really ever any plan for Luger to win at WMX?or is it just rumor?I do often wonder...... It was definitely in the cards, both initially and obviously in January when they had him co-win the Rumble, but they realized Bret was just as over as Lex and made the right choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 22:37:05 GMT -5
-- Not really sure why exactly. The "All American" hero gimmick got him over far beyond the Narcissist one, but I think Vince had the thinking that dispite little kids loving the Lex Express, the kids who loved the "Hulk Hogan American Hero" were growing up, thus the change forced him to subside the push with the strap. Hart happened to be a sure-fire thing at the time, so he wound up being "the man". Very true, I being one of them...was never a big fan of Luger, but would never question his place in the scheme of things... |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 11, 2009 2:42:25 GMT -5
Vince was still in the mindset of long term champs IMO.....and I think he wanted Yokos reign to be one of dominance with big victims. if Luger had beaten him at SS he would have to have dropped it somewhere between SS and RR........making the title change at Mania less of an impact.
I wonder was there really ever any plan for Luger to win at WMX?or is it just rumor?I do often wonder...... I remember one of the dirt sheets saying that Vince was unimpressed by Luger's work ethic at house shows (which later prompted several off camera jobs to Ludvig Borga) and that there was a general feeling among the writers at the time that Luger wasn't connecting with fans like Hogan did. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 12:30:54 GMT -5
I remember an issue of Powerslam saying that WWF had to pipe in crowd noise for Luger too and edit off boos.....if this was happening pre RR94 Vince really did go the right way
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Post by sdpatri on Nov 11, 2009 23:48:48 GMT -5
The "Made in the U.S.A" gimmick had a really weird vibe about it. It was just awful.
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