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Post by layton on Nov 14, 2009 21:48:10 GMT -5
Wait, that was a "murder KO"? Lol. We've been all over him in this thread, but I am going to come to his defense this time. The "murder KO" and the "Bisping" posts were about 20 minutes apart. He never said that Bisping had the KO of the night. I just think he was watching live in the UK and posting as it happened. Bisping's fight was pretty good, but definitely not a KO or a "murder." I think WFRR understands that. |
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Post by Cass on Nov 14, 2009 21:53:01 GMT -5
Oh, alright. I just joined the thread, so I really didn't look at the times.
My bad.
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Post by layton on Nov 14, 2009 21:57:36 GMT -5
Oh, alright. I just joined the thread, so I really didn't look at the times. My bad. Haha...I'm not worried about it. I was looking for a reason to bash, too, because I was mad he spoiled the fight for me. I just wanted to be fair in doing so. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 14, 2009 21:58:18 GMT -5
Oh I get what he was saying now. But I still dont see why anyone should Mark to bisping doing that. It wasnt all that special. But he lives in the UK so they have to have one good fighter right? or two...(Dan Hardy)
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Post by Isle of Lucy on Nov 14, 2009 22:02:58 GMT -5
-- As of the 1st round in the Swick/Hardy fight, YAHOO.COM HOME PAGE HAS SPOILED THE VERA/COUTURE MAIN EVENT!!!!  |
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Post by PdW2kX on Nov 14, 2009 22:06:28 GMT -5
I always thought that clicking on the official thread for an event implied that spoilers would flow abundantly. I don't frequent the UFC official threads, so I didn't know that was normal. On most threads here (WWE, TNA, etc.), spoilers are very frowned upon in official threads. Unless you're being sarcastic... and I don't come here enough to know if you are or not. I digress. I in turn frequent no pro wrestling boards, so I wasn't aware of that norm either. In the official threads for UFC/MMA shows, it's been established that people will be posting their reactions to the show as it happens, regardless of when it happens. I think it's unfair to ostracize the UK viewers for doing something that's become an established practice simply because they get to see the show before us. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 14, 2009 22:08:44 GMT -5
Earlier when I freaked out about it I dindt even care. I was going to read results anyways but I know in the past others were upset about it...
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Post by layton on Nov 14, 2009 22:28:05 GMT -5
I don't frequent the UFC official threads, so I didn't know that was normal. On most threads here (WWE, TNA, etc.), spoilers are very frowned upon in official threads. Unless you're being sarcastic... and I don't come here enough to know if you are or not. I digress. I in turn frequent no pro wrestling boards, so I wasn't aware of that norm either. In the official threads for UFC/MMA shows, it's been established that people will be posting their reactions to the show as it happens, regardless of when it happens. I think it's unfair to ostracize the UK viewers for doing something that's become an established practice simply because they get to see the show before us. Noted. It's not that big of a deal to me, either way. I feel like UFC and wrestling are a lot different as far as spoilers go, but since I was a wrestling fan first, I am in that mindset. |
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Post by legendary123 on Nov 14, 2009 23:13:01 GMT -5
So I came into watching this main event thinking I would be cheering on Couture but for some reason Vera had my vote ever since I watched the Countdown show and saw the class and respect that he has, not to mention his determination to climb to the top. And to see Couture do NOTHING to beat Vera and still get the win pisses me off. Couture couldn't stand toe to toe with Brandon and could only muscle him against the fence every time he got close and still could not take Vera down....Vera stopped 99% of Coutures take downs and the one time he did get taken down he got right back up. Vera hurt Randy as soon as the fight started and in the 2nd and 3rd round he crushed Randy with the leg kicks and there was even debate that the fight could have been stopped after Couture grabbed his stomach in pain and turned completely away from Vera and ran away. There was no intelligent defending there on Randys part. But if that wasn't enough to show Vera had the edge, he then takes down Couture and keeps him down for a bit and lands another solid leg kick in the 3rd. Please discuss this guys. Do you think Vera won that decision? I love the UFC and MMA as a whole and don't usually get pissed at outcomes or even pick a hardcore favorite, but it seems like a similar situation to the Machida vs Shogun fight in my opinion maybe on a lesser scale.
Either way I gained alot of respect for Brandon Vera tonight and I hope Couture takes on Machida for the title sometime soon. I just think that tonight Randy won the first round but Vera took both the 2nd and 3rd. Great exchange at the end of the fight though, that had me going!
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Post by [x] TEXACIDE [x] on Nov 14, 2009 23:28:11 GMT -5
I think the fight was close and could of gone either way but was happy to see Couture come out on top.
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Post by PrideFcF on Nov 14, 2009 23:29:17 GMT -5
I'll give Bisping his props for the win, but I think he's far from proving he can hang with the elite at 185. I do think he's good, but at the same time I feel his real tests lie elsewhere.
Dan Hardy, on the other hand, got my respect tonight. I really did expect him to get exposed as a lesser fighter tonight, and instead he looked great. I won't get into it as to if I think he can handle GSP, but I tip my hat to Hardy for his performance tonight.
Very happy for Pearson and Matt Brown tonight. Couple of tough guys right there. Can't wait to see who they get matched up with next.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 15, 2009 0:25:59 GMT -5
Vera is still a good fighter, but I don't think he won. He clearly won Round 2 though.
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 15, 2009 1:00:28 GMT -5
I love couture and i know he is a legend but IMO all he did or had on vera was strength. He held him down or held him on the cage and did NO real damage. IMO it was Vera or a draw. But things happen like that sometimes. Vera still has alot of good years left in him. I hope he can let his full potential shine and become a champion like he has potential to be..
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Nov 15, 2009 1:13:21 GMT -5
Wow. Your acting like Michael Bispings KO was something special. Ive seen about 300 KOs better than that... Here is one in particular...  No for real it was a good fight and TKO but it was nothing special... Alexander Gustafsson's KO was better than Bispings. Jeesh if Bisping wins KOTN its bulls*** I believe he was referring to Andre Winner's "murder KO". |
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 15, 2009 1:16:04 GMT -5
I love couture and i know he is a legend but IMO all he did or had on vera was strength. He held him down or held him on the cage and did NO real damage. IMO it was Vera or a draw. But things happen like that sometimes. Vera still has alot of good years left in him. I hope he can let his full potential shine and become a champion like he has potential to be.. Couture for sure did damage in the 3rd round though. I think this comes down to styles make fights. Couture did all he could to work against Vera's strengths, and I think he did a not-too-bad of job with it. I'm sure if Couture faced someone different, it owuld have been a bit more exciting. |
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Post by hammer on Nov 15, 2009 2:17:34 GMT -5
i had it 29-28 vera... couture controlled the cage work, but not much work was being done there, as evidence by the ref breaking them up 4 times. couture ran his gameplan perfectly... but his gameplan was to hold him against the cage and attempt to try to take him down, which he failed at. vera killed him in round 2, and they both flurried in round 3 but VERA got the takedown in round 3. and round 1 was close too... vera had the two biggest shots of the round. it couldve legit been 30-27 vera, but the best it couldve been for couture, was a round 1 win... and thats it. dont see this one at all.
and dan hardy got legit power. i look forward to him vs gsp... not sure he can knock him out, but im intrigued. and mike bisping... really looked great tonight. knockdown aside, and it was a nasty one... his ground defense was IMPECCABLE tonight. i was really impressed by the 4 of the 5 brits tonight... hardy, bisping, pearson and winner. alas for the other, matt brown took it to him... was impressed by him too.
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Post by Sandy on Nov 15, 2009 3:14:05 GMT -5
no f***ing way Vera won that fight...
I am as big of a Vera fan as anyone...but come on..people are making this seem like the Shogun/Machida fight. (I'm not just talking about this board either)...it was a decisive win for Couture...albeit a boring one. He neutralized Vera's strengths. It is obvious that Couture wouldn't win a standup battle with Vera...and Vera is actually a very good wrestler. So the key for Couture to win was to press him against the fence and utilize his dirty boxing, which he did.
Good win for Couture. And not a bad loss for Vera. He proved that his muay thai is ridiculous. I would love to see a Vera/ Shogun fight down the line. I hope this is the first of many BIG fights for Vera at LHW.
Dan Hardy is an animal. I wish he wouldn't have tried to take Swick down so many times during the fight. I thought he could have finished Swick a few times during the fight.
I hate Bisping. Pretty impressive win though..he got hurt early in the fight and came back and won the fight in convincing fashion.
Also Ross Pearson and Andre Winner are insane. I can't wait to see these guys face guys like Guida, Sanchez, Florian, Griffin, etc.
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 15, 2009 6:00:08 GMT -5
God Rogan ****es me off
Everytime he has his choice in a fight & gets all upset if they don't win. Trying to make out this was like Shogun/ Machida when it was just a close fight which imo Couture controlled for a comfortable decision.
This wa a close fight but Randy controlled where this fight took place for what, 95% of the fight, He landed a lot of punches.
Vera landed two kicks & took him down & got Mount & that suppsedly wins him the fight? No way!
As for the rest of the card
-Pearson looked great, not many dominate against Riley & he looked great doing it.
-Brown really gutted it out again, solid performance
-Bisping worried me with that first Knockdown but he fought a very smart fight from there in. His ground defence looked greatly improved & took out a very impressive Kang who might be dropped following that unfortunately as outside of the UFC has proven himself a solid fighter. Still did nothing to make me think he'll be getting anywhere near a title shot anytime soon.
-Most people had Swick beating Hardy. Well Hardy took the win baby, however took a lot of shots & I saw nothing that will challenge a smart GSP. Of course after the Serra KO who knows???
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 15, 2009 6:15:12 GMT -5
You might as well go out and get Dan Hardy a "Get Well Soon" card right now because he doesn't have a prayer against GSP. Just because he beat up on Mike Swick, doesn't mean anything.
GSP is arguably one of the top 2 or 3 fighters in the world and he's just at another level of experience than Dan Hardy is. Hardy can try all he wants, but like many better fighters before him, they have fallen at the hands of Georges St. Pierre.
I mean, come on here. Look at the list of quality guys GSP has dominated and conquered...Matt Hughes twice, B.J. Penn twice, Josh Koscheck, Jon Fitch, beat Matt Serra to reclaim his belt and most recently, completely owned Thiago Alves for 5 full rounds.
All of those guys GSP has beat are clearly, hands down, FAR better than Dan Hardy is. I don't know how anyone can possibly deny that.
I wish Dan Hardy luck because he's going to need all the luck he can get going into that fight. There's no question my money is riding on GSP all the way in that one.
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Post by PdW2kX on Nov 15, 2009 7:28:04 GMT -5
I have no doubt in my mind that GSP will make Hardy look like a clueless rookie. IMO it would be an even bigger upset, by a large margin in fact, than the Matt Serra loss if Dan Hardy managed to beat GSP.
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