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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:11:06 GMT -5
People thought Swick would knock Hardy out easily, and look what happened... I never thought Swick would KO Hardy but I did in fact call Swick to win it. IMO though Fitch and KOS have done a hell of alot more in the past few months to earn contendership over Hardy but they dont want any rematches so I guess Hardy is the next best thing for now. Plus who cares if Hardys standup was better than KOS he would be on his back all 25 mins if it event went that long. KOS has a better chance of keeping ti standing because of his wrestling skills. Either way though GSP would most likely destroy them both so... |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:17:32 GMT -5
I ended up ordering it and throughly enjoyed Forrest/Tito, the main reason for me to buy.
Josh Koschek is a whiny punk. If anything, he got poked in the right eye, not the left. Yes, it was an illegal knee, but it didnt even hit him. Kos completely blocked it. He was getting beat up and wanted a "time out". Notice how it never seemed to bother him again. THEN.....Kos, what looked intentional to me, pokes Johnson in the left eye with his fingers after an exchange of punches. To me it looked straight out of the 3 Stooges. Kos is a little bitch, who manipulated a win tonight. Calling out GSP....LOL!!! GSP WILL KILL HIM.......AGAIN!
I was glad to see Forrest bounce back and bounce back strong. He seemed to really learn from the previous Ortiz fight and was able to handle the ground and pound better this time. The fight was close through the first 2 rounds. Tito landed the takedowns and was able to open Forrest up. But Forrest stood strong and connected on a lot more strikes and kicks. By the 3rdround, you could see just how red the left thigh and knee of Tito was. Also it looked like Tito was gassed and gassed bad by round 3. Forrest turned it up, blocked the takedowns which had little steam, connected with strikes and kicks and DOMINATED Ortiz. Forrest acknowledged the beatdown he got courtesy of Silva, but it s was clear that Forrest had his head back in the game.
As far as Ortiz goes......its like he never left. Whining and crying. Excuses. Through every interview and every pre show hype, Ortiz talked about how he is in the best shape of his life and how he is 110% and how this time, he has NO INJURIES. Then all of the sudden, after he loses, he's got a cracked vertebrate and a cracked skull. Please man. What you got.......is an excuse. Dont pat Forrest on the back, while smacking him upside his head. Your biggest asset couldnt finish Forrest off. He countered it and learned from the previous fight. You have no stand up against a fighter like Forrest. And by round 3, you were sucking wind. You dropped your hands, no steam on your takedown tries and got your ass served to you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:21:14 GMT -5
Again I say, I think Kos's arm hit him in the eye when he blocked the knee
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Post by *Stunna* on Nov 22, 2009 1:22:35 GMT -5
FORREST GRIFFIN FTW....suck it Tito fans what a arrogant prick
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:22:59 GMT -5
Again I say, I think Kos's arm hit him in the eye when he blocked the knee Kos hit himself in the eye? I didnt notice. Might have to check it out again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:23:14 GMT -5
aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so...
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:23:27 GMT -5
Who caes if it was blocked it was still illegal on KOSs part. KOS didnt manipulate his way to a win. KOS won the fight. What did he manipulate Johnson into getting on the ground and tapping out too? aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so... Those rounds for me were soo close Yea Forrest won round 3 big time but IMO rounds 1 and 2 were so close and could have gone either way. But Forrest deffinatly deserved the win he earned it... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:25:58 GMT -5
Again I say, I think Kos's arm hit him in the eye when he blocked the knee Kos hit himself in the eye? I didnt notice. Might have to check it out again. That's what I saw, at least.. I was thinking his radius in his arm knocked him in the eye |
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 22, 2009 1:26:09 GMT -5
aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so... Um, no. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:28:07 GMT -5
aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so... Um, no. Um, yes. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:29:02 GMT -5
In my opinion the MOST impressive performance tonight came from Rogerio Nogueira! He is a force in the LHW division and I hope he doesent claim the friendship BS and fights lyoto...
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Post by *Stunna* on Nov 22, 2009 1:29:18 GMT -5
aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so... are you serious round 2 he won...but forrest won round 1....and completely raped tito in the 3rd...tito looked like a human punching bag |
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 22, 2009 1:30:12 GMT -5
In my opinion the MOST impressive performance tonight came from Rogerio Nogueira! He is a force in the LHW division and I hope he doesent claim the friendship BS and fights lyoto... I hope Shogun beats Lyoto so we see Nogueira/Shogun II. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:30:39 GMT -5
aaaand Tito pretty much won round 1 and 2, so... are you serious round 2 he won...but forrest won round 1....and completely raped tito in the 3rd...tito looked like a human punching bag How in the bloody hell did Forrest win the 1st? He won the 3rd no doubt, but Tito controlled the 1st |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:30:51 GMT -5
In my opinion the MOST impressive performance tonight came from Rogerio Nogueira! He is a force in the LHW division and I hope he doesent claim the friendship BS and fights lyoto... I hope Shogun beats Lyoto so we see Nogueira/Shogun II. This would be amazing! I honestly want to see Nog take the LHW title! I hope he does! |
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 22, 2009 1:33:03 GMT -5
are you serious round 2 he won...but forrest won round 1....and completely raped tito in the 3rd...tito looked like a human punching bag How in the bloody hell did Forrest win the 1st? He won the 3rd no doubt, but Tito controlled the 1st How did Tito win round 2? Takedowns don't really mean sh*t unless you are able to control your opponent on the bottom, and Griffin reversed and did damage to Ortiz after the reversal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 1:34:17 GMT -5
How in the bloody hell did Forrest win the 1st? He won the 3rd no doubt, but Tito controlled the 1st How did Tito win round 2? Takedowns don't really mean sh*t unless you are able to control your opponent on the bottom, and Griffin reversed and did damage to Ortiz after the reversal. that's not the point, how did Forrest win 1, which was cleanly Tito |
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 22, 2009 1:35:18 GMT -5
How in the bloody hell did Forrest win the 1st? He won the 3rd no doubt, but Tito controlled the 1st How did Tito win round 2? Takedowns don't really mean sh*t unless you are able to control your opponent on the bottom, and Griffin reversed and did damage to Ortiz after the reversal. Im not saying its the case in this fight but thats not all true. Some judges dont care what you do after you get a takedown takedowns are gold... |
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Post by Kick Your Face on Nov 22, 2009 1:36:03 GMT -5
Tito did not win round 2. Forrest's defense was obviously too good for Tito go anywhere with the takedowns.
I see it like this.
1. Ortiz by a slight margin
2. Griffin
3. Griffin by domination
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Post by Bob Sapp on Nov 22, 2009 1:36:54 GMT -5
Tito did not win round 2. Forrest's defense was obviously too good for Tito go anywhere with the takedowns. I see it like this. 1. Ortiz by a slight margin 2. Griffin 3. Griffin by domination This. |
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