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Post by Chip on Dec 5, 2009 0:47:28 GMT -5
dont feel like reading 18 pages of people judging a man who just died.... its people like that, that give wrestling fans & humans in general a bad name. a man is dead because of mistakes he made in life, its not the time to critcize his decisions. he didn't murder his family
let me just say, Umaga was one of the best "big men" to come along in this decade. I hoped for a big future in the business from him and figured his second chance with the WWE was going to come sooner than later. i am definitley saddened by this loss to the wrestling world. a man of 36 years hasn't even LIVED yet, taken way too soon. Today was a true shock to the modern wrestling world.
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Post by gravedigger3 on Dec 5, 2009 0:52:17 GMT -5
so sad he was one of the best wrestlers ive seen and can honestly say wwe dropped the ball with him because he could have been one of their greats
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Post by Guy Incognito on Dec 5, 2009 0:52:35 GMT -5
R.I.P. Umaga
An amazing big man, he had so much talent, such a shame to have him pass this quick. I love him during his runs in the WWE.
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Post by wwfalex04: OUC? on Dec 5, 2009 0:55:36 GMT -5
This is a tragedy. It's bumbed my night out man... .
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Post by Isle of Lucy on Dec 5, 2009 0:57:54 GMT -5
-- Just read about this a couple hours ago and it's still pretty sad. I stopped watching WWE fulltime several years ago, but heard about and read about and seen vaguely him in action. But from what I gather, he was in 3MW and I was a fan of them until he stiff kicked Looney and broke her ribs.
Heard he just got back from Hogan's Australian tour, hopefully the rumors of Hogan putting his tour out on DVD is true, as a tribute to one of the fallen Samoans.
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Post by gravedigger3 on Dec 5, 2009 1:00:08 GMT -5
idk what to do im so depressed now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 1:10:48 GMT -5
What.....the.... ? RIP
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Post by Raoul the Great on Dec 5, 2009 1:38:16 GMT -5
That's a damn shame. I really enjoyed watching Umaga. I still love how it took John Cena choking him with the ring ropes to beat Umaga. I wish we could have had more from him as a heavyweight heel.
RIP Eddie Fatu.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Dec 5, 2009 1:42:40 GMT -5
Congratulations Umaga. You had a great career, but now your just another statistic.NO, he is still a human.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Dec 5, 2009 1:44:54 GMT -5
It's just a crying shame that some of you can't keep your selfish thoughts, ideas and agendas to yourself long enough to let the wrestling world mourn a man's death. Some people have the minds of sloths. We as mature adults have to forgive them for they know not what they do.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Dec 5, 2009 1:46:32 GMT -5
Awesome tribute video here: 2:59 = mark out moment. That got the crowd so hot. It's sad that WWE limited him due to his character. I would have loved to have seen him moonsault onto Cena and watch all the marks' eyes pop out.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Dec 5, 2009 1:51:03 GMT -5
oh jeez sad to hear this RIP Umaga
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Post by DMO™ on Dec 5, 2009 1:55:49 GMT -5
RIP Eddie Fatu
Was really hoping to see him back in the WWE again =(
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 5, 2009 1:56:17 GMT -5
Some people need to get over themselves, step down off their ing high horses and shut the hell up. Why are people coming in here saying he's just another statistic or he was an idiot for doing drugs? Do you think coming in here telling us drug addiction is bad is gonna do any good? You're preaching to the ing choir when you say all this, because quite frankly, we already know this. The fact is though, there is no need for that right now, not one bit. A tremendously talented wrestler just passed away, whether it be unfortunate or not. People are using this thread to pay their ing respects. If you're gonna come in here and just say the man was a jackass for doing drugs and not learning his lesson sooner than later, then just go away and get the out. There is really no need for it at this time. I love how some of you people can sit up on your soapbox and judge somebody you never knew personally and say what they should have done and what they shouldn't have. You also all act like you knew what he was going through, when you truly don't. I am very anti drugs, but seriously, just stop if that's all you're gonna do. Let people say RIP, let people pay their respects, and leave the poop for later. I would like to say RIP to Umaga. I didn't like him when he first came in, but as time went on, I began to respect his abilities more and more. I was surprised to see he never won the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight title, he could have been a great champion. So sad to see he wasn't able to overcome whatever demons he was fighting and was taken way too young. 36 years old is just way too young and shouldn't even be discussed as an age to go. My condolences to his friends and family. Oh boo ing hoo. It's an internet forum Iz CaN SaYz AnD dOeZ WaTsEvArS i WaNtz. This isnt the mans funeral. This isnt even an appreciation thread. This is a thread to discuss him. Where the hell was his appreciation thread last week when he was still kickin? If I go to his funeral and start disrespecting him then I deserve to get my ass kicked. But since im here, in the right thread to talk about it, im gonna say whats on my damn mind. And if that means I get to say and believe that he was a dumbass and ignorant for refusing WWE's offer to help him then, so be it. It's why this forum is here. So maybe YOU are the one who need's to leave if you cant respect MY right to be here and say what I believe.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Dec 5, 2009 2:01:13 GMT -5
Some people need to get over themselves, step down off their ing high horses and shut the hell up. Why are people coming in here saying he's just another statistic or he was an idiot for doing drugs? Do you think coming in here telling us drug addiction is bad is gonna do any good? You're preaching to the ing choir when you say all this, because quite frankly, we already know this. The fact is though, there is no need for that right now, not one bit. A tremendously talented wrestler just passed away, whether it be unfortunate or not. People are using this thread to pay their ing respects. If you're gonna come in here and just say the man was a jackass for doing drugs and not learning his lesson sooner than later, then just go away and get the out. There is really no need for it at this time. I love how some of you people can sit up on your soapbox and judge somebody you never knew personally and say what they should have done and what they shouldn't have. You also all act like you knew what he was going through, when you truly don't. I am very anti drugs, but seriously, just stop if that's all you're gonna do. Let people say RIP, let people pay their respects, and leave the poop for later. I would like to say RIP to Umaga. I didn't like him when he first came in, but as time went on, I began to respect his abilities more and more. I was surprised to see he never won the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight title, he could have been a great champion. So sad to see he wasn't able to overcome whatever demons he was fighting and was taken way too young. 36 years old is just way too young and shouldn't even be discussed as an age to go. My condolences to his friends and family. Oh boo ing hoo. It's an internet forum Iz CaN SaYz AnD dOeZ WaTsEvArS i WaNtz. This isnt the mans funeral. This isnt even an appreciation thread. This is a thread to discuss him. Where the hell was his appreciation thread last week when he was still kickin? If I go to his funeral and start disrespecting him then I deserve to get my ass kicked. But since im here, in the right thread to talk about it, im gonna say whats on my damn mind. And if that means I get to say and believe that he was a dumbass and ignorant for refusing WWE's offer to help him then, so be it. It's why this forum is here. So maybe YOU are the one who need's to leave if you cant respect MY right to be here and say what I believe. I'm sorry kid but I don't know how many people in your life have died unexpectedly but I am pretty god damn sure that you would feel the same way. Regardless of how he died, he has a family and he WAS A PERSON. He deserves respect. It's very unclassy and distasteful to act like you are regarding someone's death. Seriously, if you can't say something nice about a dead person...keep your fingers away from the key...alright kiddo?
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 5, 2009 2:20:19 GMT -5
Oh boo ing hoo. It's an internet forum Iz CaN SaYz AnD dOeZ WaTsEvArS i WaNtz. This isnt the mans funeral. This isnt even an appreciation thread. This is a thread to discuss him. Where the hell was his appreciation thread last week when he was still kickin? If I go to his funeral and start disrespecting him then I deserve to get my ass kicked. But since im here, in the right thread to talk about it, im gonna say whats on my damn mind. And if that means I get to say and believe that he was a dumbass and ignorant for refusing WWE's offer to help him then, so be it. It's why this forum is here. So maybe YOU are the one who need's to leave if you cant respect MY right to be here and say what I believe. I'm sorry kid but I don't know how many people in your life have died unexpectedly but I am pretty god damn sure that you would feel the same way. Regardless of how he died, he has a family and he WAS A PERSON. He deserves respect. It's very unclassy and distasteful to act like you are regarding someone's death. Seriously, if you can't say something nice about a dead person...keep your fingers away from the key...alright kiddo? Did I say he doesnt deserve respect? Did I not specifically state that I did feel bad that he died, and he deserves to be payed tribute? I did. And you make no sense. Let me get this straight. What your trying to say, is that just because he is dead, I shouldnt say anything bad about him? Ok. So when Osama Bin laden dies, we will all refrain from saying bad stuff...... because he's dead. I dont care if it's unclassy and distasteful, because it's the truth, and I have every right to say so. If people want to pay respects to him, go to his Appreciation thread. Im here to discuss matters at hand. And the only matter I came in here to say to begin with, was that he became another statistic. Its sad to say, but its true. The next time WWE is on the news, I'll have to sit there and shake my head while they roll the list of wrestlers to died before theyre 40, and wonder to myself why they let this happen to themselves? But no. according to you I should be the normal conformist and forget anything bad happened because he's dead and we should rejoyce on the good times. And I would like to do that, believe me I would, but I havent even had the chance yet, because im being jumped on (in a discussion thread...) because I vocied my opinion. Kiddo.
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Post by AdamBomb on Dec 5, 2009 2:22:28 GMT -5
^^^Personally, I adhere to the old saying of, 'don't speak ill of the dead.'
...unless the person was a total piece of ****.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Dec 5, 2009 2:25:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry kid but I don't know how many people in your life have died unexpectedly but I am pretty god damn sure that you would feel the same way. Regardless of how he died, he has a family and he WAS A PERSON. He deserves respect. It's very unclassy and distasteful to act like you are regarding someone's death. Seriously, if you can't say something nice about a dead person...keep your fingers away from the key...alright kiddo? Did I say he doesnt deserve respect? Did I not specifically state that I did feel bad that he died, and he deserves to be payed tribute? I did. And you make no sense. Let me get this straight. What your trying to say, is that just because he is dead, I shouldnt say anything bad about him? Ok. So when Osama Bin laden dies, we will all refrain from saying bad stuff...... because he's dead. I dont care if it's unclassy and distasteful, because it's the truth, and I have every right to say so. If people want to pay respects to him, go to his Appreciation thread. Im here to discuss matters at hand. And the only matter I came in here to say to begin with, was that he became another statistic. Its sad to say, but its true. The next time WWE is on the news, I'll have to sit there and shake my head while they roll the list of wrestlers to died before theyre 40, and wonder to myself why they let this happen to themselves? But no. according to you I should be the normal conformist and forget anything bad happened because he's dead and we should rejoyce on the good times. And I would like to do that, believe me I would, but I havent even had the chance yet, because im being jumped on (in a discussion thread...) because I vocied my opinion. Kiddo. Dude...I am older than you. I have seen what addiction does to people which clearly you have not if you think that this is WWE's fault. Humans have something called will power. If in fact Umaga's death was the result of drug addiction, that means he had a disease. Addiction is a disease. Do some research on it. Oh and you want to discuss the matter at hand? Last I read, this was not the "Discuss Wrestler's Drug" problems thread either. So, you are in the wrong forum then. Read the thread title. I am pretty certain that if this was John Cena you would be singing a different tune. Howeve since this is "just Umaga" I suppose it's okay to act the way you are. Suppose it also has a lot to do with your age and your life experiences. Again research drug addiction in a legitimate source. You might learn something about those wrestlers who chose to do drugs. You might think a little better before you say something really asinine like they are just a statistic.
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Post by specterkev on Dec 5, 2009 2:58:13 GMT -5
never was a big fan of his but damn still a shock that he's dead.. this is messed up..too many young wrestlers dying..
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 5, 2009 3:00:03 GMT -5
Did I say he doesnt deserve respect? Did I not specifically state that I did feel bad that he died, and he deserves to be payed tribute? I did. And you make no sense. Let me get this straight. What your trying to say, is that just because he is dead, I shouldnt say anything bad about him? Ok. So when Osama Bin laden dies, we will all refrain from saying bad stuff...... because he's dead. I dont care if it's unclassy and distasteful, because it's the truth, and I have every right to say so. If people want to pay respects to him, go to his Appreciation thread. Im here to discuss matters at hand. And the only matter I came in here to say to begin with, was that he became another statistic. Its sad to say, but its true. The next time WWE is on the news, I'll have to sit there and shake my head while they roll the list of wrestlers to died before theyre 40, and wonder to myself why they let this happen to themselves? But no. according to you I should be the normal conformist and forget anything bad happened because he's dead and we should rejoyce on the good times. And I would like to do that, believe me I would, but I havent even had the chance yet, because im being jumped on (in a discussion thread...) because I vocied my opinion. Kiddo. Dude...I am older than you. I have seen what addiction does to people which clearly you have not if you think that this is WWE's fault. Humans have something called will power. If in fact Umaga's death was the result of drug addiction, that means he had a disease. Addiction is a disease. Do some research on it. Oh and you want to discuss the matter at hand? Last I read, this was not the "Discuss Wrestler's Drug" problems thread either. So, you are in the wrong forum then. Read the thread title. I am pretty certain that if this was John Cena you would be singing a different tune. Howeve since this is "just Umaga" I suppose it's okay to act the way you are. Suppose it also has a lot to do with your age and your life experiences. Again research drug addiction in a legitimate source. You might learn something about those wrestlers who chose to do drugs. You might think a little better before you say something really asinine like they are just a statistic. I know what addiction can do to people too. 17 isnt all that young. And I didnt say It was WWE's fault. I just credited them because Theyre the company under fire for pre-mature deaths, and now Umaga, who should (and most likley was, I mean who isnt) have been educated by the WWE about what he would be getting himself into by starting an addiction. And humans do have will-power. Umaga didnt want to use it when WWE reahed out to him, because he was satisfied with whatever position he was in. If you say no to something, its because you dont want it. He didnt want help, he didnt want to quit. And the title of this thread is "Umaga has passed away". And it's posted on a forum. The point of a forum, is to have discussions. And the title "Umaga has passed away" says to me "Discuss Umaga and his death" not, "Say RIP and leave nice comments". I dont care if it was Umaga, John Cena, or my own parents. If there is foul play involved in any death, there's a lesson to be learned. But you did get a little something right. To me he was "Just Umaga" or even "Just Jamal". I know him from WWE and thats it, and he wasnt in it for the longest time. I made no connection with him. I didnt feel for some samoan speaking savage. I respected and always admired his in-ring ability because he pretty much defied physics with his speed-to-size ratio, but to me he really wasnt anything but another wrestler. Pretend he was still alive, and have that mindset, now considering that, does that make me a bad person? Not one bit. Now that he is dead, I might come across as a bad person because I consider him "just another wrestler (or statistic), but thats because I dont know the man! If I didnt have a connection with him in life, why would I in death? I still have a heart and feel bad for his family because they lost a valued family member, but his death didnt effect me so while I can reflect and remember him for his in-ring ability like I do so for Chris Benoit, I will also keep in mind that what he did was very wrong, like I do for Chris Benoit.
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