MMA Judging is TERRIBLE

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but that is not the point or topic of this thread.

That entire fight was pretty lame, but it's nothing compared to the blatant lay and pray of GSP.

After taunting the way he did, Im glad Silva lost by decision. He had Evans rocked in the 3rd round. Its fighting, man the up and go at him. If you want to dance go to Dancing with the Stars and find a new hobby. I hate Evans and was rooting for Silva the entire time but Silva cost himself the fight. Showboat AFTER you knock him out. Nobody to blame but himself

Silva probably figured he was going to lose a decision anyway, so he used the taunting to get Evans to strike so he could counter-punch him.

Once again, you're missing the ing point, but whatever.

I'm sure Sapp understands and agrees with some/most/all of this. His statement encompasses far more than this fight. His point is that it's an incredibly faulty scoring system being used if guys are heavily awarded for securing a takedown and doing nothing with it.

Don't agree at all.

I personally was happy to see Rashad incorporating wrestling back into his game. He had Thiasgo blowing heavy after about two minutes with his takedowns & was a smart game plan.

He managed to control most of the fight with takedowns, grappling on the ground & clinching up against the cage.
Was it visually spectucluar?
No, however whilst grappling is allowed in MMA that will always be a possibility.

Thiago apart from that short period in the third fight did nothing. He didn't stop Rashad with those strikes & then gassed & posed for the audience rather than attempt to finish the fight because he was gassed due to Rashad's relentless grappling so it was perhaps more effective than more people thought.

Same arguement was made after Randy/ Vera where Vera landed one decent kick & everyone thought he derved the win. WTF!

UFC has the stand up rule if there is no activity on the ground. All fights start each round standing & the fighters have the opportunity before hand to train harder to stuff takedowns & get back up.
Look at the Stout win.
Many including me thought his traditionally weak ground game would cost him the win. Instead he looked great getting back up, getting his strikes in & weakening Lauzon to the point where his grappling meant very little & he could dominate him.
The broken MMA judges didn't affect him getting the nod.

If you don't like grappling then perhaps K1 would be more for you.

I have watched K1 and MMA for years and I like both. I actually prefer MMA.

But anyways, you make some okay points. But that doesn't change the fact that Rashad's "gameplan" wasn't quite looking all that good that people claim. Every single takedown he did, Silva got back up from and my whole point is that rounds itself should NOT be contested on if someone gets 10,000 takedowns, but what the guy on defense does, as well as the guy on offense. Thiago got up after each takedown and that proves (to me) that Rashad's plan wasn't quite working. I think Silva getting up every time should be looked at as well, and not overlooked because he got taken down.

I also found it hilarious to hear that Evans got his BJJ black belt and STILL has yet to even attempt a submission. Heh.

ok... 2nd time ive watched the fight in a half hour span, heres the play by play the 2nd time around... here we go...

rashad comes right out with jabs, thiago backs himself into the cage, rashad then clinches... boring as shit, but rashad has cage control. nothing much going on.. thiago hits a decent knee, rashad hits a decent left hook. trade trying to get position for about 20-25 seconds, then rashad gets a takedown. thiago gets immediately to his feet. rashad, about 3 seconds later, gets a fairly solid looking takedown again. shad immediately into side control with the takedown. nothing happens for 10 seconds, they fight for position... and rashad then gets into full mount. thiago within about 10-15 seconds, brilliantly fights his way up... though as previous post said... no damage done to either participant. silva hits a solid right hook to the body, after they get up. after about 20 seconds, they finally unclinch... rashad becomes more active with the hands, though theyre more or less trading, and no damage is being inflicted on either side. at about 2:30, rashad again takes thiago down. immediately into side control, again. thiago is up fairly quick... 15 seconds or so. thiago is somewhat gassed, taking deep breaths against the cage. thiago hits a good inside leg kick. then they trade jabs, and set up misses, for about a minute. rashad then again pins thiago against the cage with about a minute to go in the round. after about 30 seconds of nothing, rashad throws two punches, not sure if there was much damage, but it clears him out of the clinch. then he throws a couple body shots, and then takes thiago down again. thiago more or less, instantly right back to his feet. thiago throws a head kick with 4 seconds to go in the round, but it meets all rashads glove.

thusly... your point, that rashads takedowns did nothing, and thiago was immediately to his feet... is absolutely correct. but cage control and activity... rashad clearly won the round. 10-9 rashad after one, not sure i can see any reasonable argument to the contrary... onto round 2...

after about 15 seconds, rashad throws a couple punches, that dont land or cause any damage, but thiago backs himself right into the cage, and rashad is now in control, in the clinch. nothing happened of damage wise, but rashad dictated where the fight went on that exchange... thus cage control. over the next 40 seconds, they jockey for position... thiago hits two decent rights, and a good inside knee... though nothing from rashad. the clinch is released, and we're back to the center of the ring. inside leg kick from thiago, though i dont think he got it all... after a faked jab by thiago, rashad takes thiago down. they jockey for 20 seconds, rashad hits a decent right as thiago tries to get up... and then thiago does infact get up. thiago backs into the cage, rashad goes right after him, and takes him down again. thiago does look fairly gassed at this point... 3:07 of round 2. rashad is controlling position, but again is causing no damage. thiago gets back up at 2:39... no damage caused. from 2:39 to 2:09, one punch was thrown, a missed a jab by thiago. rashad gave a half hearted attempt a takedown, but nothing was doing. about 5 seconds later, rashad bullrushes thiago back into the cage. after about 20 seconds of jockeying, rashad tries to trip thiago, who breaks free from it, and hits a solid right to the body. thiago is finally now starting to feel a bit more confident... hits a decent right, nothing much more, but hes finally starting to become the aggressor. and with about 50 seconds to go... rashad again bullrushes, pushes thiago into the cage, and then takes him down again. nothing doing here... after about 20 seconds, thiago gets to his feet again. they jockey against the cage for the remainder of the round, with rashad controlling position.

again... rashad dictated the round. youll get no argument from me, that no damage was done... but no damage was done for thiago either, and 3 and a half minutes of the round, the positioning... the cage control... was dictated by rashad. thats 20-18 rashad after 2.

round 3 was an obvious round, so i dont feel i need to do the pbp. thiago had a minute and a half-2 minute flurry... and then let up, when he was in control. he clearly won the round, but i dont believe it was a 10-8 round, and thusly... 29-28, rashad evans wins the fight.