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Post by Raine on Jan 6, 2010 5:28:52 GMT -5
I've watched a few WCW related DVD's lately and many people say a large part of WCW's downfall (along with the overuse of the nWo) was ending Goldberg's streak. They say that it should have never been ended, but I can't understand why they say this, if Goldberg stayed undefeated forever people would get sick of the predictablilty of his matches.
So would just like to give people the chance to put what they would have done with Goldberg and the streak?
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Post by Ldeow on Jan 6, 2010 5:58:40 GMT -5
would of done exactly what they did.
Put Nash over him at Starcade 98'
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Post by calhil8 on Jan 6, 2010 6:31:05 GMT -5
i would have kept it for longer than they did
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Post by Hurricane on Jan 6, 2010 7:19:33 GMT -5
I would have used it to put over an up-and-coming star, not Nash who was slowly heading downhill from there.
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Post by June on Jan 6, 2010 10:09:44 GMT -5
Goldberg's streak should have continued past Starrcade and ended when Sting returned from injury in the spring of 99. Since the Wolfpack went heel they could have had Sting return to feud with them and join forces with Goldberg and as a repayment for helping Goldberg, Sting could have been awarded a title shot and then Sting could have shocked the world by turning heel & stealing the World Title from Goldberg.
Imagine Sting as a heel and leader of the NWO, he could have continued his feud with Goldberg, faced Flair in a whole new dynamic, feuded with Bret Hart, and even Hogan if the NWO were to turn on him. It's a shame that WCW had to end the way the streak the way they did.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2010 13:33:13 GMT -5
WCW effed a lot up in that week didnt they?between thois and the fingerpoke of doom it was the ruination of
Goldberg
nWo
Nash.
Nash insists that Goldberg was supposed to pound nWo red all over the place before he did his arm in but I dunno.
it defo was a mistake to end the streak like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2010 18:15:29 GMT -5
Imagine Sting as a heel and leader of the NWO, he could have continued his feud with Goldberg, faced Flair in a whole new dynamic, feuded with Bret Hart, and even Hogan if the NWO were to turn on him. It's a shame that WCW had to end the way the streak the way they did. But the crowd never bought Sting as a heel. I don't think it would have worked. I didn't view the streak as a bad thing as far as building the Goldberg character. I would have ended the streak at some point, but in a program with a top heel. It could have been Nash, but I would have had a feud with matches and storylines that made sense. Was the company better off with Nash as the champ? I don't think so. WCW's storylines and direction just stopped making sense and jumped around all over the place, and that's what killed it for me. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jan 7, 2010 7:09:36 GMT -5
I thought it should have been ended by Paul Wight. IMO, WCW missed out on a huge money feud by having Giant-Goldberg have only 2 poorly promoted matches.
The Giant was still young and had been booked as being all but invulnerable to everyone but pre-NWO Hulk. I would have given Goldberg the title a few months earlier, have him continue the streak, but lose to the Giant in a title match and lose in a rematch on Nitro. From there, the storyline would have been "this is the guy Goldberg can't beat". They would have faced off in a feud-culminating match at Starrcade (a cage match) where Goldberg would finally pin the Giant and regain the belt.
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Post by xoptimusxchadx on Jan 7, 2010 7:51:11 GMT -5
I would have done 1 of 2 things. Either have Goldberg lose to a newer star who has just as promise or have Goldberg get injured during a match fall outside for a 10 count while the other person waits in the ring and wait for the bell.
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Post by LeighD on Jan 7, 2010 9:06:04 GMT -5
Goldberg's streak definitely helped win him over with the crowd. However WCW's, or I should say Nash's decision (as he was head booker at the time) to end Goldberg's streak in such a lackluster main event was awful. I think he could have safely continued into the next 6 months undefeated while WCW groomed a newer or more powerful star to end Goldberg's steak.
However, I don't think Nash defeating Goldberg would have been as bad had it not been for the finger poke of doom. That single moment, KILLED any meanign to Goldberg's streak and Nash's World War 3 win. Actually I think I didn't watch WCW for a while after that "match" as it just pissed on anything that had meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 10:39:11 GMT -5
I thought it should have been ended by Paul Wight. IMO, WCW missed out on a huge money feud by having Giant-Goldberg have only 2 poorly promoted matches. The Giant was still young and had been booked as being all but invulnerable to everyone but pre-NWO Hulk. I would have given Goldberg the title a few months earlier, have him continue the streak, but lose to the Giant in a title match and lose in a rematch on Nitro. From there, the storyline would have been "this is the guy Goldberg can't beat". They would have faced off in a feud-culminating match at Starrcade (a cage match) where Goldberg would finally pin the Giant and regain the belt. I like this idea. I think it might have worked, and it would have been a good use of the Giant/Show, who I think is often misused. And LeighD is right -- the finger poke of doom is the thing that really made Nash's ending the streak ridiculous. If they want Nash to win the belt, they should have given him a program of matches with Goldberg to continue the rivalry. If they wanted Hogan to have the belt, have him feud with Goldberg until he won. The way everything happened was just ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2010 20:54:44 GMT -5
If it was done in a believable, convincing way (with Goldberg eventually credibly selling opponent's offense, and in interesting and fresh feuds) I'd believe that Goldberg's streak could have gone on and on, but The Fingerpoke Of Doom will forever be a tarnishing that WCW will never outlive.
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Post by slappy on Jan 10, 2010 21:37:34 GMT -5
I think they ended it well, because no one could beat him so you had to have some way to do it and stunning him was the best.
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Post by Juba on Jan 10, 2010 21:42:08 GMT -5
as a kid it ruined goldberg for me. the streak should have gone on for much longer then how it did.
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Post by slappy on Jan 10, 2010 21:51:51 GMT -5
as a kid it ruined goldberg for me. the streak should have gone on for much longer then how it did. As I kid I couldn't stand the man and hated that he was undefeated. To this day, I still can't find something appealing about the man. |
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Post by June on Jan 11, 2010 8:41:02 GMT -5
as a kid it ruined goldberg for me. the streak should have gone on for much longer then how it did. As I kid I couldn't stand the man and hated that he was undefeated. To this day, I still can't find something appealing about the man. To each his own, but Goldberg was an animal and had one of the best looks in the history of the business. He was a legit powerhouse and gave the people what they wanted to see. He reminded me of the Road Warriors who I idolized as a kid. Goldberg may have not impressed you, but he captured the attention of a wrestling nation and had a hell of a run. The reached heights that 99.9% of men that have stepped into the ring can only dream of. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 11, 2010 8:53:36 GMT -5
Goldberg was my guy to watch in WCW. I think the streak ended to soon, but I think they ended it well. With catel prodes, Hall, and Nash. They made him seem like he wouldn't go down, and finally he did. What was it, nearly 2 years of undefeated matches? Thats perfect.
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Post by nintendofanboy on Jan 11, 2010 9:04:35 GMT -5
Goldberg is the single greatest character in the history of proffesional wrestling. Quote me, whatever - I don't really care.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 9:34:47 GMT -5
As I kid I couldn't stand the man and hated that he was undefeated. To this day, I still can't find something appealing about the man. To each his own, but Goldberg was an animal and had one of the best looks in the history of the business. He was a legit powerhouse and gave the people what they wanted to see. He reminded me of the Road Warriors who I idolized as a kid. Goldberg may have not impressed you, but he captured the attention of a wrestling nation and had a hell of a run. The reached heights that 99.9% of men that have stepped into the ring can only dream of. Yeah, I'm a grumpy old man who's been watching wrestling since I was a toddler at my grandpa's knee and Ric Flair was an up and comer, and I loved Goldberg. He had a great character and look, and the Road Warriors comparison really works (though I'm not saying he was as great as Hawk and Animal). It's a shame power wrestlers are so disrespected in the smart mark era. He wasn't great in the ring, but he wasn't terrible either. The only legit knock I've heard on him was that he didn't care about the business and was only out for himself, but you could have described almost everyone at the top at WCW during that time the exact same way, only most of them had longer tenures in the industry and should have known better. Goldberg was over with me from the first match I saw him in, and that's a lot better than some of the charisma-less goofballs smarks love so much these days. |
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