Dudewithattitude83
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Post by Dudewithattitude83 on Jan 6, 2010 22:57:43 GMT -5
One Monday Night show, resulting in barely better ratings, and now they are a major player? Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, uhhh... need I go on? I could care less where the board is, but I'd say its a major player for sure yeah you do they are all has beens |
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Post by deskjet on Jan 7, 2010 0:04:32 GMT -5
One Monday Night show, resulting in barely better ratings, and now they are a major player? Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, uhhh... need I go on? I could care less where the board is, but I'd say its a major player for sure One guy doesnt wrestle. Two guys shouldnt wrestle, one guy is about to go to jail and wont be wrestling, so that leaves you with ...1  John Cena, HHH, HBK, Undertaker, Rey mysterio, Jack Swagger, MVP, kofi kingston, Randy Orton, Ted Dibiase, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Taker, Brett Hart, Mike Tyson, Sheamus, Edge( soon)...need I go on? |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 7, 2010 2:36:27 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, uhhh... need I go on? I could care less where the board is, but I'd say its a major player for sure One guy doesnt wrestle. Two guys shouldnt wrestle, one guy is about to go to jail and wont be wrestling, so that leaves you with ...1 John Cena, HHH, HBK, Undertaker, Rey mysterio, Jack Swagger, MVP, kofi kingston, Randy Orton, Ted Dibiase, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Taker, Brett Hart, Mike Tyson, Sheamus, Edge( soon)...need I go on? Did you see me say WWE wasn't a major player? Who the hell is even arguing about WWE? For the life of me I can't figure out why you guys go on TNA boards if all you want to do is rip on them. They are a major player, like it or not, has been or not. At the end of the day, Ric Flair is still a draw. Hulk Hogan, like it or not, is still a draw. They are going to be turning eyes to the product, which will in turn bring more eyes to a much better wrestling product (when they actually wrestle). If it wasn't for those two or Jeff Hardy, I guarantee you TNA would have been lucky to bring in a 1.0 going head to head against Raw. You people seem to be forgetting, TNA went head to head with Raw and still did a 1.5 with the "has beens." In fact, the NWO "has beens" Hogan, Nash, and Hall drew TNA's best rated segment of the night... AGAINST BRET HART AND HBK. Maybe they are has beens, but they can draw. And why the  did you put Mike Tyson on that list? Bottom line, if you are a WWE Mark or a TNA mark, it doesn't matter. WWE is finally getting some honest competition, whether you admit to it yet or in a few months from now as they continue to grow. Its good for the business. It forces both companies to put out a better product. Do you think Nitro beat Raw the first few months? Hell no, it took time to grow and time to establish names and bring in old faces. There is nothing wrong with that. If you want to watch a product without old faces, don't watch TNA. Don't watch WWE either. Watch ROH. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 7, 2010 2:43:19 GMT -5
How is TNA a "major player"?
The whole hype of the show was based around the debut of Hulk Hogan, who's not even going to wrestle. He's a glorified GM.
The rest of the 3 hour show was an absolute TRAIN WRECK.
All of the "surprise" people were WWE wash outs like Val Venis and Shannon Moore who nobody in the general public cares about, an old has been in Ric Flair, and Jeff Hardy who's just been indicted on drug charges. The rest of the show was just the regular TNA wrestlers which the general public does not know.
TNA televises from ONE arena and it has like 20 rows. They are by no means a major player when with the exception of the aforementioned new roster additions they are playing with the same pieces that weren't attracting a mass audience before the January 4th 3-hour show.
The increase in the ratings was out of curiosity about what Hogan would do.....now that we have an idea and it's NOT that great, I think the ratings will go back to normal.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 7, 2010 2:55:00 GMT -5
How is TNA a "major player"? The whole hype of the show was based around the debut of Hulk Hogan, who's not even going to wrestle. He's a glorified GM. The rest of the 3 hour show was an absolute TRAIN WRECK. All of the "surprise" people were WWE wash outs like Val Venis and Shannon Moore who nobody in the general public cares about, an old has been in Ric Flair, and Jeff Hardy who's just been indicted on drug charges. The rest of the show was just the regular TNA wrestlers which the general public does not know. TNA televises from ONE arena and it has like 20 rows. They are by no means a major player when with the exception of the aforementioned new roster additions they are playing with the same pieces that weren't attracting a mass audience before the January 4th 3-hour show. The increase in the ratings was out of curiosity about what Hogan would do.....now that we have an idea and it's NOT that great, I think the ratings will go back to normal. Who cares that iMPACT is in the same arena? It was a good choice in '04 when TNA got the FSN deal. They can't just go "Poof" and leave the building. They've got a contract which they can't break. Also, "like 20 rows" is such a joke. The building has nothing to do with them being a "major player" at all. |
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Post by Mark on Jan 7, 2010 3:13:16 GMT -5
How is TNA a "major player"? The whole hype of the show was based around the debut of Hulk Hogan, who's not even going to wrestle. He's a glorified GM. The rest of the 3 hour show was an absolute TRAIN WRECK. All of the "surprise" people were WWE wash outs like Val Venis and Shannon Moore who nobody in the general public cares about, an old has been in Ric Flair, and Jeff Hardy who's just been indicted on drug charges. The rest of the show was just the regular TNA wrestlers which the general public does not know. TNA televises from ONE arena and it has like 20 rows. They are by no means a major player when with the exception of the aforementioned new roster additions they are playing with the same pieces that weren't attracting a mass audience before the January 4th 3-hour show. The increase in the ratings was out of curiosity about what Hogan would do.....now that we have an idea and it's NOT that great, I think the ratings will go back to normal. Who cares that iMPACT is in the same arena? It was a good choice in '04 when TNA got the FSN deal. They can't just go "Poof" and leave the building. They've got a contract which they can't break. Also, "like 20 rows" is such a joke. The building has nothing to do with them being a "major player" at all. Actually it does, Production and such should give the viewers a larger than life sense. TNA does not. I get a mere second rate feeling... |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 7, 2010 12:05:09 GMT -5
How is TNA a "major player"? The whole hype of the show was based around the debut of Hulk Hogan, who's not even going to wrestle. He's a glorified GM. The rest of the 3 hour show was an absolute TRAIN WRECK. All of the "surprise" people were WWE wash outs like Val Venis and Shannon Moore who nobody in the general public cares about, an old has been in Ric Flair, and Jeff Hardy who's just been indicted on drug charges. The rest of the show was just the regular TNA wrestlers which the general public does not know. TNA televises from ONE arena and it has like 20 rows. They are by no means a major player when with the exception of the aforementioned new roster additions they are playing with the same pieces that weren't attracting a mass audience before the January 4th 3-hour show. The increase in the ratings was out of curiosity about what Hogan would do.....now that we have an idea and it's NOT that great, I think the ratings will go back to normal. Who cares that iMPACT is in the same arena? It was a good choice in '04 when TNA got the FSN deal. They can't just go "Poof" and leave the building. They've got a contract which they can't break. Also, "like 20 rows" is such a joke. The building has nothing to do with them being a "major player" at all. You obviously never passed a business management class. You're not a major player if you're not making any MONEY. That "Impact zone" is just a stage set at universal studios. It seats MAYBE a 700 person capacity and that's me being GENEROUS. WWE sells out 20,000 seat arenas multiple times a week, and huge shows like Wrestlemania show that WWE has the ability to even fill 75,000+ seat arenas. And just from a television perspective, when I watch TNA it looks like there's barely anybody there. My high school gym is bigger than the Impact Zone. But WWE shows huge panoramic crowd shots and the audience is so big you can barely see the ring because it looks tiny. TNA can't be making hardly any money, which is why Hogan and Flair demanded contracts with Panda as well as TNA just in case TNA goes OUT OF BUSINESS, lol. |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 7, 2010 12:29:30 GMT -5
Who cares that iMPACT is in the same arena? It was a good choice in '04 when TNA got the FSN deal. They can't just go "Poof" and leave the building. They've got a contract which they can't break. Also, "like 20 rows" is such a joke. The building has nothing to do with them being a "major player" at all. You obviously never passed a business management class. You're not a major player if you're not making any MONEY. That "Impact zone" is just a stage set at universal studios. It seats MAYBE a 700 person capacity and that's me being GENEROUS. WWE sells out 20,000 seat arenas multiple times a week, and huge shows like Wrestlemania show that WWE has the ability to even fill 75,000+ seat arenas. And just from a television perspective, when I watch TNA it looks like there's barely anybody there. My high school gym is bigger than the Impact Zone. But WWE shows huge panoramic crowd shots and the audience is so big you can barely see the ring because it looks tiny. TNA can't be making hardly any money, which is why Hogan and Flair demanded contracts with Panda as well as TNA just in case TNA goes OUT OF BUSINESS, lol. D'lo said on Between the Ropes that its got 1,300. |
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Post by Infinite on Jan 7, 2010 14:00:53 GMT -5
i'd call 2nd best a major player. and thats no disrespect to tna. i'm sure any realistic tna fan would say wwe is still the bigger product, if not in the ring.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 7, 2010 14:21:00 GMT -5
Who cares that iMPACT is in the same arena? It was a good choice in '04 when TNA got the FSN deal. They can't just go "Poof" and leave the building. They've got a contract which they can't break. Also, "like 20 rows" is such a joke. The building has nothing to do with them being a "major player" at all. You obviously never passed a business management class. You're not a major player if you're not making any MONEY. That "Impact zone" is just a stage set at universal studios. It seats MAYBE a 700 person capacity and that's me being GENEROUS. WWE sells out 20,000 seat arenas multiple times a week, and huge shows like Wrestlemania show that WWE has the ability to even fill 75,000+ seat arenas. And just from a television perspective, when I watch TNA it looks like there's barely anybody there. My high school gym is bigger than the Impact Zone. But WWE shows huge panoramic crowd shots and the audience is so big you can barely see the ring because it looks tiny. TNA can't be making hardly any money, which is why Hogan and Flair demanded contracts with Panda as well as TNA just in case TNA goes OUT OF BUSINESS, lol. Trust me, there's more than "700 seats" in the building. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 7, 2010 14:54:40 GMT -5
You obviously never passed a business management class. You're not a major player if you're not making any MONEY. That "Impact zone" is just a stage set at universal studios. It seats MAYBE a 700 person capacity and that's me being GENEROUS. WWE sells out 20,000 seat arenas multiple times a week, and huge shows like Wrestlemania show that WWE has the ability to even fill 75,000+ seat arenas. And just from a television perspective, when I watch TNA it looks like there's barely anybody there. My high school gym is bigger than the Impact Zone. But WWE shows huge panoramic crowd shots and the audience is so big you can barely see the ring because it looks tiny. TNA can't be making hardly any money, which is why Hogan and Flair demanded contracts with Panda as well as TNA just in case TNA goes OUT OF BUSINESS, lol. Trust me, there's more than "700 seats" in the building. Either way, WWE's smallest house show arena is bigger than TNA's only arena they televise from. WWE runs more house shows, has more tv shows, more PPV's. Add that to the fact that except for DVD's, there isn't ONE PIECE of TNA merchandise that is currently available in stores except for MAYBE trading cards that I've never seen. You are successful and a major player when you are making MONEY, not based on internet chatter. The original ECW was more of a threat to WWE than TNA is....and the original ECW never stood a chance. That's not a reflection on their product because I think ECW had better WRESTLING than WWE had or has NOW, but ECW could never touch them from a business aspect and neither can TNA. |
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Jan 7, 2010 15:07:31 GMT -5
TNA is the only other wrestling company in the world to compete with Raw... What else defines a "major player"? (For those saying they aren't)
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 7, 2010 15:16:02 GMT -5
Saying TNA is a major player cause they are the only ones around to compete with WWE is like sayin the XFL was a major pro football franchise.....Lets be serious here
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 7, 2010 15:17:40 GMT -5
Trust me, there's more than "700 seats" in the building. Either way, WWE's smallest house show arena is bigger than TNA's only arena they televise from. WWE runs more house shows, has more tv shows, more PPV's. Add that to the fact that except for DVD's, there isn't ONE PIECE of TNA merchandise that is currently available in stores except for MAYBE trading cards that I've never seen. You are successful and a major player when you are making MONEY, not based on internet chatter. The original ECW was more of a threat to WWE than TNA is....and the original ECW never stood a chance. That's not a reflection on their product because I think ECW had better WRESTLING than WWE had or has NOW, but ECW could never touch them from a business aspect and neither can TNA. Like, I said earlier - they can't just up and leave US because of the contract with Universeal. If they want to get sued, by all means they can leave. But, it's not smart. TNA is making money and it's not "internet chatter" it's from TNA guys in interviews including Jeff & Dixie. They're going to have action figures in stores this year, the PSP/DS video game is coming out, you can find youth TNA shirts at Wal-Mart, TNA trading cards (Don't know where you've looked, but they're there). What all does WWE have in stores? Figures, video games, trading cards, youth t-shirts.. wait a minute.. the same stuff TNA has out. Sure, there's is in more stores than TNA but that's obvious. |
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 7, 2010 15:53:47 GMT -5
WWE has a hell of a lot more stuff than that....
just sayin'
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Jan 7, 2010 16:04:55 GMT -5
wwe sucks
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 7, 2010 16:08:19 GMT -5
WWE has a hell of a lot more stuff than that.... just sayin' Like what? He mentioned DVDs (so I didn't) and the only thign I think I left out was the WWE & WWE Kids Magazine. |
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 7, 2010 16:10:56 GMT -5
Either way, WWE's smallest house show arena is bigger than TNA's only arena they televise from. WWE runs more house shows, has more tv shows, more PPV's. Add that to the fact that except for DVD's, there isn't ONE PIECE of TNA merchandise that is currently available in stores except for MAYBE trading cards that I've never seen. You are successful and a major player when you are making MONEY, not based on internet chatter. The original ECW was more of a threat to WWE than TNA is....and the original ECW never stood a chance. That's not a reflection on their product because I think ECW had better WRESTLING than WWE had or has NOW, but ECW could never touch them from a business aspect and neither can TNA. Like, I said earlier - they can't just up and leave US because of the contract with Universeal. If they want to get sued, by all means they can leave. But, it's not smart. TNA is making money and it's not "internet chatter" it's from TNA guys in interviews including Jeff & Dixie. They're going to have action figures in stores this year, the PSP/DS video game is coming out, you can find youth TNA shirts at Wal-Mart, TNA trading cards (Don't know where you've looked, but they're there). What all does WWE have in stores? Figures, video games, trading cards, youth t-shirts.. wait a minute.. the same stuff TNA has out. Sure, there's is in more stores than TNA but that's obvious. The only difference is most of the WWE stuff sells...Have we forgotten that TNA has had figures before...that went on clearance. They also had a video game that was hyped up.....that went on clearance. They might be finally turning a profit but its not enough of one to make a big impact. TNA is like 1993 WCW. They have pieces they just have no leadership or anyone that knows what to do with it......and Hogan isnt the answer |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 16:13:29 GMT -5
Not to mention a WWE Magazine... period.
TNA is far from being "major competition". McMahon clearly didn't put on the best show he could Monday night and TNA still couldn't beat WWE in the ratings. Thats what made WCW a "major competition" to the WWF, coming close then eventually being them in ratings.
TNA has a lot of work to do, to be in the WWE's league. They took one step back with signing Hogan, though. While yes, he's a big name... it's clear that the man wants to make TNA his "hangout" for himself and his friends.
If TNA continues in the direction Hogan is putting it in, TNA will be dead by 2012... completely.
Hate to sound cocky, but put someone like me in the position of booking. I bet I could increase TNA's buyrates and ratings massively in 6 months.
- Triple S
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 16:20:28 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, uhhh... need I go on? I could care less where the board is, but I'd say its a major player for sure yeah you do they are all has beens Dude, did you seriously just call Kurt Angle a has been? He can still out preform most men in the business. |
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