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Post by LeighD on Jan 7, 2010 11:56:07 GMT -5
WHile from its birth in the summer of 1996 all the way until the end of 1998, the nWo was without question HOT and a money-maker.
But WCW, as great man once said, "went to the well too many times" with the gimmick. The beginning was awesome and was a PERFECT way to get viewers to watch. But in the end WCW just flat out KILLED any drawing power the gimmick had.
So my question to you all is: When and how would you have ended the nWo gimmick?
For me,I would have had Sting win the WCW title at Starrcade '97 and have him form a strong backing from WCW to continue to fight the nWo over the course of the next year , with new surprise debuts and returns to help spice things and gain viewers. Then a final PPV showdown at Starrcade '98 with Sting, Warrior, Goldberg, and Luger (to name a few) to simply end the nWo all-together.
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Post by hammer on Jan 7, 2010 12:13:17 GMT -5
sounds reasonable... you can even add bret hart to have an ''outsider'' that feels whats going on in wcw is disgusting, to team with sting. however, the way they buried sting in that match with hogan, more or less killed wcw, til goldberg came around... and the two consequenting nights, goldberg getting the stick from hall giving nash the win, and then nash laying down for hogan... pretty much buried wcw. those are the two moments in time, that truly need redoing for wcw. a clean win for sting at starrcade 97, is a very nice start.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 13:32:43 GMT -5
yeh a a clean win for Sting to start.that was a crippling mistake and it made Sting look foolish to be honest.
Bret Hart being brought in as a face to fight alongside Sting.all the while the Goldberg build continues.having Hart as a heel was a terrible blow and made little sense really.
Starrcade 98 should have seen Hart beat Hogan for the strap.then fued with Kevin Nash led nWo in Hogans absence.
it ends in the summer of 98 with one PPV dedicated to WCW vs nWo for control.whoever wins the most matches wins the day.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 7, 2010 15:38:19 GMT -5
I would have ended the nWo as a group in mid 98...
-Sting defeats Hogan for the title at Starrcade. The B team of the nWo runs in and doesnt make the save or costs Hogan and in turns Hogan boots them out and knocks the nWo down to himself, Hall, Nash, the debuting Bret Hart and eventually Scott Steiner
-You're typical struggle between WCW and nWo goes back and forth especially between Bischoff and JJ Dillon. Hogan will win back the title as well as the nWo winning back the majority of the others
-The titles are in the hands of the nWo. Hogan (world) Outsiders (Tag), Hart (US) and Steiner (TV)
-Bischoff offers a deal to JJ an, "All or Nothing" type thing. The Titles for the rights to WCW. But if WCW wins not only do they get the belts but the nWo disbands.
-Dillion agrees but makes the match for Wargames and selects WCWs top guys. Sting, Flair, Hennig (who would be come a Horseman), Luger and Rick Stiner.
-The WCW guys would obviously win, disbanding the nWo. Sting wins the world, Flair and Hennig tag champs, Luger US and Steiner becomes TV champ.
Hogan would go back to Red/Yellow after the nWo falling out. Hall and Nash would remain a tag team simply known as the wolfpac or outsiders. Steiner would work on his Big Poppa Pump Gimmick and Bret Hart could reform the Hart Foundation
Im obviously not considering the Goldberg push in this cause in mid 97 when they would have made out the storyline Goldberg was still an up and comer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 16:14:36 GMT -5
I would have kept it Hogan, Nash, and Hall. No knock offs, no new memebers, and no Wolfpac. Just those three kicking ass.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 0:15:36 GMT -5
I don't think too much nWo killed WCW, bad booking and guys putting themselves ahead of the company destroyed it. All the things people have mentioned -- Hogan's refusal to job cleanly to Sting, Nash's cattle-prod victory, the finger-poke of doom -- go to bad, me-first decision making.
I actually wouldn't have ended the nWo until much later, but I would have done some things differently. I would have had Sting win cleanly, obviously. Then the nWo would have targeted Sting with brutal retaliation. Eventually, the other top WCW faces, including a surging Goldberg (who's been feuding with Raven's Flock) step up to help Sting, sort of referencing and remedying the whole "WCW doesn't trust Sting" storyline. For me, this addresses a major fault of the whole nWo storyline: a failure to ever have WCW have an effective unified counter.
Eventually, the nWo's frustration at being unable to get the belt from Sting fractures the group. I might have even gone for a nWo Hollywood versus Wolfpack type of thing (that would have worked for me if they had tried to have a storyline that made sense; I mean, that many egos would reasonably fracture). Finally, a Hogan face turn to red and yellow would end the nWo (hell, I might have Sting come out in his surfer gear for the turn, since the nWo precipitated the whole "dark Sting" transformation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2010 20:37:28 GMT -5
^^^
I like that idea, and agree that those big three mistakes definitely hurt the company in every way, shape and form.
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Post by DKR on Jan 10, 2010 20:48:10 GMT -5
I don't have any ideas on how the nWo angle should have played out. All I know is that Starcade 97 was a disaster and Hart should not have turned heel in WCW. Ever.
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