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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 15:13:59 GMT -5
I said it was my opinion, look at the first post. I got called out on it. I then said that in my eyes, Anderson can do better at anything Orton is great at. So, yes... in my mind, it's a fact.Exactly, you just proved my point. Opinion isn't fact. And that isn't my opinion, that's a fact. Well in my mind, I think everything I've said is true. And I can back it up... find me anything Orton can do, and I will argue that Anderson can do it better. A bunch of sheep chanting his name doesn't count, considering Anderson was never in the main event. |
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Post by guitarmageddon94 on Mar 30, 2010 15:16:03 GMT -5
In my opinion, Orton > Kennedy.
The video's pretty cool at points, thanks for posting.
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Post by Fallen Angel on Mar 30, 2010 15:16:23 GMT -5
"at least get a new gimmick" made me lmfao It's the truth. |
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 15:19:51 GMT -5
"at least get a new gimmick" made me lmfao It's the truth. You're not backing this up... how in the mother of god, is this the truth? Kennedy/Anderson was OVER with that gimmick, he is known for doing his introduction. His gimmick is the same but it's tweaked and produced better by the boys in the back because there's no dickwarts telling him not to do this and that because they're afraid he will get "too over". He obviously hasn't been watching much TNA if he thinks he saw Anderson in a 10 sided ring. Ever since he debuted in it, they have had 4 sides, so I don't know what the  he's watching. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2010 15:21:15 GMT -5
Ken > Orton. Couldn't care less what anybody says, Ken is more entertaining in TNA than Orton has been in about 6 years now. He also is - Faster in the ring. - Better in the mic. - Better moveset. - Better looking. - Better actor. - Better character. Of course, this is my opinion. And I'm not changing it, no matter who argues with me. -Speed doesnt mean shit. Just means he is sloppier -Yes because repeating your name makes you great on the mic -Hahaha -Better looking? Dude have you came out yet? We dont judge here -Better actor? I guess, because hes got you convinced hes a good wrestler. -Repeating your name over and over is not a character dammit Orton>Kennedy/Anderson/Who gives a ........anyday. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Mar 30, 2010 15:22:25 GMT -5
You're not backing this up... how in the mother of god, is this the truth? Kennedy/Anderson was OVER with that gimmick, he is known for doing his introduction. His gimmick is the same but it's tweaked and produced better by the boys in the back because there's no dickwarts telling him not to do this and that because they're afraid he will get "too over". He obviously hasn't been watching much TNA if he thinks he saw Anderson in a 10 sided ring. Ever since he debuted in it, they have had 4 sides, so I don't know what the he's watching.Hyperbole is lost on the weak minded. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 30, 2010 15:24:05 GMT -5
Why should Ken change his gimmick? It makes no sense, it's what got him over and it was his idea. If he should've changed it now, then he should've changed it when he left OVW.
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 15:28:30 GMT -5
Ken > Orton. Couldn't care less what anybody says, Ken is more entertaining in TNA than Orton has been in about 6 years now. He also is - Faster in the ring. - Better in the mic. - Better moveset. - Better looking. - Better actor. - Better character. Of course, this is my opinion. And I'm not changing it, no matter who argues with me. -Speed doesnt mean poop. Just means he is sloppier -Yes because repeating your name makes you great on the mic -Hahaha -Better looking? Dude have you came out yet? We dont judge here -Better actor? I guess, because hes got you convinced hes a good wrestler. -Repeating your name over and over is not a character dammit Orton>Kennedy/Anderson/Who gives a ........anyday. I love how you act like ALL he does is repeat his name. Have you not watched TNA for the past month or so? His feud with Angle is EASILY the best feud going on at the moment. It has it all, great matches, great promos, emotion, passion... its a feud everyone can relate to. It's not just his name repeat, it's his mic work period. He is a classic heel and gets the reaction he needs to. He feeds off that reaction. People say it's Orton's character... yeah, well... Orton's character sucks. And people can use that as an excuse all they want. The guy hasn't had a great match in years. No, I'm not coming out of the closet, Orton is bland. I mean, he's your generic CAW guy, buzzcut, black tights, boring moveset. Anderson atleast has a colorful look to him and he stands out. And how does speed mean sloppy? Orton WALKS his matches, Anderson has drive into them and makes them exciting. Just watch his match against The Pope at Against All Odds. I don't know why I bother trying to convince you guys that he's one of the best things in TNA currently. Half of you probably don't even watch it (judging by the "he needs a decent feud" comment above), and would rather see Blandy Orton face Yawn Cena for the 1000th time. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Mar 30, 2010 15:30:58 GMT -5
Boy I sure missed the 80 page argument threads with JSYN.
...that's sarcasm by the way.
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Post by MX5 on Mar 30, 2010 15:32:56 GMT -5
Just saying, a few months ago Orton was one of the most hated men on the roster and now he's one of the biggest faces. All he had to do was say "RKO" and the crowd went crazy for him.
Kennedy however, could never get over as a face, in WWE.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Mar 30, 2010 15:33:34 GMT -5
Boy I sure missed the 80 page argument threads with JSYN. ...that's sarcasm by the way. Dude, if he doesn't get hyperbole, how the Hell can he understand sarcasm? |
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Mar 30, 2010 15:34:18 GMT -5
See JSYN may be correct on Anderson having a great feud with Angle. And to the Edge fans, don't come here and say Anderson just repeats his name, because all Edge has done for the past month is repeat the word Spear which has become annoying for me.
Now, saying Anderson is better than Orton is just pure bullshit. Anderson never got the heat, or the pops that Orton has gotten. Because he wasn't in the main event? Well, he spent most of the time injured, and when he didn't he got a suspension for drugs...
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 30, 2010 15:34:57 GMT -5
Just saying, a few months ago Orton was one of the most hated men on the roster and now he's one of the biggest faces. All he had to do was say "RKO" and the crowd went crazy for him. Kennedy however, could never get over as a face, in WWE. Because, his character wasn't meant to be a face. Some gimmicks can transfer over, but Ken's wasn't one of them. Ken was all about himself, how nice guys finish last and thank god he's an bunghole.. of course that won't translate over to a babyface role especially when he's not given freedom or has someone working with him that knows what they're doing. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 30, 2010 15:35:12 GMT -5
The thing I hate about jSYN is the way he regards his opinion as fact. He even said so himself. I said it was my opinion, look at the first post. I got called out on it. I then said that in my eyes, Anderson can do better at anything Orton is great at. So, yes... in my mind, it's a fact. No one called you out on anything. No one agreed with you, so you started fussing about it. |
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Mar 30, 2010 15:35:45 GMT -5
-Speed doesnt mean poop. Just means he is sloppier -Yes because repeating your name makes you great on the mic -Hahaha -Better looking? Dude have you came out yet? We dont judge here -Better actor? I guess, because hes got you convinced hes a good wrestler. -Repeating your name over and over is not a character dammit Orton>Kennedy/Anderson/Who gives a ........anyday. I love how you act like ALL he does is repeat his name. Have you not watched TNA for the past month or so? His feud with Angle is EASILY the best feud going on at the moment. It has it all, great matches, great promos, emotion, passion... its a feud everyone can relate to. It's not just his name repeat, it's his mic work period. He is a classic heel and gets the reaction he needs to. He feeds off that reaction. People say it's Orton's character... yeah, well... Orton's character sucks. And people can use that as an excuse all they want. The guy hasn't had a great match in years. No, I'm not coming out of the closet, Orton is bland. I mean, he's your generic CAW guy, buzzcut, black tights, boring moveset. Anderson atleast has a colorful look to him and he stands out. And how does speed mean sloppy? Orton WALKS his matches, Anderson has drive into them and makes them exciting. Just watch his match against The Pope at Against All Odds. I don't know why I bother trying to convince you guys that he's one of the best things in TNA currently. Half of you probably don't even watch it (judging by the "he needs a decent feud" comment above), and would rather see Blandy Orton face Yawn Cena for the 1000th time. How is Orton's character bland compared to Kennedy? If anything, it's a lot less bland than that poor excuse of a wrestler down in TNA. Orton's tattoos, build and his mannerisms are much better than Kennedy. If we wanna sit here and say Orton has a basic character, maybe we should point out Anderson as well. He's your typical black boots, tights, and blond haired look. It's been done before, so automatically it's boring and bland, right? Oh I'm sorry, I just thought we were going off the same argument you proposed for Orton's look and character. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 30, 2010 15:39:02 GMT -5
I love how you act like ALL he does is repeat his name. Have you not watched TNA for the past month or so? His feud with Angle is EASILY the best feud going on at the moment. It has it all, great matches, great promos, emotion, passion... its a feud everyone can relate to. It's not just his name repeat, it's his mic work period. He is a classic heel and gets the reaction he needs to. He feeds off that reaction. People say it's Orton's character... yeah, well... Orton's character sucks. And people can use that as an excuse all they want. The guy hasn't had a great match in years. No, I'm not coming out of the closet, Orton is bland. I mean, he's your generic CAW guy, buzzcut, black tights, boring moveset. Anderson atleast has a colorful look to him and he stands out. And how does speed mean sloppy? Orton WALKS his matches, Anderson has drive into them and makes them exciting. Just watch his match against The Pope at Against All Odds. I don't know why I bother trying to convince you guys that he's one of the best things in TNA currently. Half of you probably don't even watch it (judging by the "he needs a decent feud" comment above), and would rather see Blandy Orton face Yawn Cena for the 1000th time. How is Orton's character bland compared to Kennedy? If anything, it's a lot less bland than that poor excuse of a wrestler down in TNA. Orton's tattoos, build and his mannerisms are much better than Kennedy. If we wanna sit here and say Orton has a basic character, maybe we should point out Anderson as well. He's your typical black boots, tights, and blond haired look. It's been done before, so automatically it's boring and bland, right? Oh I'm sorry, I just thought we were going off the same argument you proposed for Orton's look and character. He's got a point. Anderson's look and character somewhat fall under the Ric Flair category. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2010 15:40:48 GMT -5
-Speed doesnt mean poop. Just means he is sloppier -Yes because repeating your name makes you great on the mic -Hahaha -Better looking? Dude have you came out yet? We dont judge here -Better actor? I guess, because hes got you convinced hes a good wrestler. -Repeating your name over and over is not a character dammit Orton>Kennedy/Anderson/Who gives a ........anyday. I love how you act like ALL he does is repeat his name. Have you not watched TNA for the past month or so? His feud with Angle is EASILY the best feud going on at the moment. It has it all, great matches, great promos, emotion, passion... its a feud everyone can relate to. It's not just his name repeat, it's his mic work period. He is a classic heel and gets the reaction he needs to. He feeds off that reaction. People say it's Orton's character... yeah, well... Orton's character sucks. And people can use that as an excuse all they want. The guy hasn't had a great match in years. No, I'm not coming out of the closet, Orton is bland. I mean, he's your generic CAW guy, buzzcut, black tights, boring moveset. Anderson atleast has a colorful look to him and he stands out. And how does speed mean sloppy? Orton WALKS his matches, Anderson has drive into them and makes them exciting. Just watch his match against The Pope at Against All Odds. I don't know why I bother trying to convince you guys that he's one of the best things in TNA currently. Half of you probably don't even watch it (judging by the "he needs a decent feud" comment above), and would rather see Blandy Orton face Yawn Cena for the 1000th time. His fued with Angle is decent at best and is being carried by Angle. They dude is nowhere near as good as you make him out to be. And the real reason he is getting the push he is getting is because he is another guy that "WWE didnt use right" and TNA thinks they are shoving it in WWEs face. When I bet no one is the E gives a damn. As far as the comments about guys in the back being afraid hed get too over, give me a ing break. They were ready to push the guy. They gave him MITB, which almost means he would have gotten the title. HE ed that up, no one in the back did. But hey he can go to TNA, be whatever the hell you consider over is, and be maineventing because the guys with actual talent 9 times out of 10 are treated like shit. It doesnt make a difference. At the end of the day Orton is actually over, and one of the top guys in THE TOP wrestling company in the world...... |
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Mar 30, 2010 15:40:49 GMT -5
How is Orton's character bland compared to Kennedy? If anything, it's a lot less bland than that poor excuse of a wrestler down in TNA. Orton's tattoos, build and his mannerisms are much better than Kennedy. If we wanna sit here and say Orton has a basic character, maybe we should point out Anderson as well. He's your typical black boots, tights, and blond haired look. It's been done before, so automatically it's boring and bland, right? Oh I'm sorry, I just thought we were going off the same argument you proposed for Orton's look and character. He's got a point. Anderson's look and character somewhat fall under the Ric Flair category. I don't see it. Just because he wears colored tights and has blond hair? |
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 15:42:50 GMT -5
I love how you act like ALL he does is repeat his name. Have you not watched TNA for the past month or so? His feud with Angle is EASILY the best feud going on at the moment. It has it all, great matches, great promos, emotion, passion... its a feud everyone can relate to. It's not just his name repeat, it's his mic work period. He is a classic heel and gets the reaction he needs to. He feeds off that reaction. People say it's Orton's character... yeah, well... Orton's character sucks. And people can use that as an excuse all they want. The guy hasn't had a great match in years. No, I'm not coming out of the closet, Orton is bland. I mean, he's your generic CAW guy, buzzcut, black tights, boring moveset. Anderson atleast has a colorful look to him and he stands out. And how does speed mean sloppy? Orton WALKS his matches, Anderson has drive into them and makes them exciting. Just watch his match against The Pope at Against All Odds. I don't know why I bother trying to convince you guys that he's one of the best things in TNA currently. Half of you probably don't even watch it (judging by the "he needs a decent feud" comment above), and would rather see Blandy Orton face Yawn Cena for the 1000th time. How is Orton's character bland compared to Kennedy? If anything, it's a lot less bland than that poor excuse of a wrestler down in TNA. Orton's tattoos, build and his mannerisms are much better than Kennedy. If we wanna sit here and say Orton has a basic character, maybe we should point out Anderson as well. He's your typical black boots, tights, and blond haired look. It's been done before, so automatically it's boring and bland, right? Oh I'm sorry, I just thought we were going off the same argument you proposed for Orton's look and character. Anderson stands out... Orton doesn't. And I don't remember anybody having Anderson's gimmick before, so no. It is unique. That isn't the debate anyway. I said Anderson was better looking because I was implying that anything Orton had, Anderson did better. Looks are a part of the full package and, I would notice Mr. Anderson because he actually changes his look from time to time and his character has a bit of color. Orton is like an insomniac's dream. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Mar 30, 2010 15:43:47 GMT -5
Boy I sure missed the 80 page argument threads with JSYN. ...that's sarcasm by the way. Dude, if he doesn't get hyperbole, how the Hell can he understand sarcasm? LOL, that's why I spelled it out for him. I still like how when JSYN left he was 16, and came back as 19. |
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