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Post by Vampirenighthawk on Apr 1, 2010 19:55:44 GMT -5
Does anyone think that TNA has a shot at making "REAL" competition for WWE?
I mean, the dismal 0.7 rating and Dixie blaming it on HBK's retirement is sad.
One would think with RVD, Sting, Jeff Hardy, Hulk Hogan etc. that TNA would be right up there with WWE seeing as HHH's politics and the WWE crap would make close ratings...
I don't understand why the ratings arent closer but then again, maybe its just as fixed as wrestling.
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Apr 1, 2010 20:00:17 GMT -5
I certainly dont know why TNA arent up there. It's nothing to do with story line because kids don't give a rats ass about that. If they were advertised better kids would get drawn in imo.
I'm not saying that TNA's product is good but then again WWE's isn't much better.
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Post by King Silva on Apr 1, 2010 20:02:02 GMT -5
No.
I really don't think so.
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Post by Vampirenighthawk on Apr 1, 2010 20:02:44 GMT -5
i completely agree.. TNA is pulling a WCW with the buying of talent. no good stories... just names to draw a gate.
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Post by Oskanowski on Apr 1, 2010 20:03:04 GMT -5
TNA isn't competition. Nothing will ever be competition to WWE, because simply WWE has proven it's grounds and became higher than just a wrestling organization.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2010 20:08:51 GMT -5
in the 90's WCW/WWF were similar products, similar characters, etc. in 2010 WWE/TNA have different characters, WWE-family friendly, TNA-"edgier"/wrestling based.
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Post by dmkp0wer on Apr 1, 2010 20:15:15 GMT -5
Triple H's politics? Get off that man, thats 6 yrs. ago.
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Post by Vampirenighthawk on Apr 1, 2010 20:27:32 GMT -5
ok... the last time he actually put over a lesser star was when Jeff Hardy was going for his push and he beat The Game for the opportunity to face Orton.
Sheamus beats Cena but The Game pins him... Just one example.
HHH dosent lose unless HHH decides its ok. he is protecting whatever legacy he thinks he has.
If Steph didnt have so much oull he would have been a mid-carder again
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Post by dmkp0wer on Apr 1, 2010 20:38:46 GMT -5
ok... the last time he actually put over a lesser star was when Jeff Hardy was going for his push and he beat The Game for the opportunity to face Orton. Sheamus beats Cena but The Game pins him... Just one example. HHH dosent lose unless HHH decides its ok. he is protecting whatever legacy he thinks he has. If Steph didnt have so much oull he would have been a mid-carder again I'm not denying the fact that he has used his pull a lot, for better or worse throughout the past years. But calling foul on everything Hunter does is not fair either. So because Triple H beat Sheamus once, he used his politics? Be logical. Obviously, they're still feuding, and we'll see how this feud elevates Sheamus, if at all. And with the whole Jeff Hardy scenario, I'm presuming you're talking about their 2007 Armageddon match. That's great. They feuded again in '08 with a series of matches to bring Jeff to a main event level. Obviously, it worked since he was headlining PPV's w/ Punk & Edge in '09. Is all the credit due to Triple H? No. But Hunter did help in Jeff going to a different level. And if you want to argue about putting "lesser" stars over, look at the Undertaker. He does the same thing, except he's not married to Stephanie.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 1, 2010 20:43:01 GMT -5
Triple H's politics? Get off that man, thats 6 yrs. ago. Thank you!
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Post by Stevo on Apr 1, 2010 20:45:47 GMT -5
ok... the last time he actually put over a lesser star was when Jeff Hardy was going for his push and he beat The Game for the opportunity to face Orton. Sheamus beats Cena but The Game pins him... Just one example. HHH dosent lose unless HHH decides its ok. he is protecting whatever legacy he thinks he has. If Steph didnt have so much oull he would have been a mid-carder again Sheamus hitting Triple H on RAW before Trips could say "I love you, Shawn" will get him more heat than any pin ever could. Ever. It was brilliant. He's full-blown heel now, with heat added. Hell, I might actually be coming around to him! Orton (rocky start, Trips finally put him over though), Cena, Batista, all great examples of guys Triple H has laid down for and done the favor. Umaga, too. You're just another smark bitching and moaning on that level. TNA can't seem to generate interest. I feel sorry for them, because they have a lot of great talent, but then again, I don't care about the nWo and other hasbeens and neverwases! I would like to see Christopher Danielson headline a Pay Per View. I'd pay to see it. Yes, I'm a minority, but the man is over and can get buyrates with a push. He's just one example of what they could do. However, they've seemed to fall into a rut where they just rely on name power to get them over, and its not working! Personally, as long as Hogan is in the company, I hope they fail. em for stooping low enough to dig him back out. And them for putting Flair back in the ring. Apparently the core demographic audience agrees with that .6 rating.
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Post by Deja Voodoo on Apr 1, 2010 20:48:08 GMT -5
ok... the last time he actually put over a lesser star was when Jeff Hardy was going for his push and he beat The Game for the opportunity to face Orton. Sheamus beats Cena but The Game pins him... Just one example. HHH dosent lose unless HHH decides its ok. he is protecting whatever legacy he thinks he has. If Steph didnt have so much oull he would have been a mid-carder again Sheamus beat Cena in a table match. Did he pin Cena? Did he pin Orton? Triple H hasn't been the champion in a year and for the most part he has stayed out of the title hunt. So get off it and grow up.
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Post by Vampirenighthawk on Apr 1, 2010 21:29:26 GMT -5
grow up? for having an opinion?... even The Rock commented on how funny it is during his speech that The Game still gives a crapabout the belt. Look, The Game is a guy who rode the coat tails of HBK and then banged the boss' daughter to get a real push.
It's like The Rock once said... Triple H, you say your The Game? well if that's the case then you need to go back to the drawing board because your Game absolutely Sucks!
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 1, 2010 21:36:06 GMT -5
grow up? for having an opinion?... even The Rock commented on how funny it is during his speech that The Game still gives a poop about the belt. Look, The Game is a guy who rode the coat tails of HBK and then banged the boss' daughter to get a real push. It's like The Rock once said... Triple H, you say your The Game? well if that's the case then you need to go back to the drawing board because your Game absolutely Sucks! Uhhh, he was banging the dudechick when he got his first title push.
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Post by ß®å¢K$ßâ¢k on Apr 1, 2010 21:44:00 GMT -5
TNA is WCW 1999-2001. I don't like to say that, but they are KILLING it.
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Post by mrwest on Apr 1, 2010 21:44:09 GMT -5
Man TNA knew that this will happen they knew that this was just too soon for them to be heading to monday nights even so they have RVD,HULK,AJ STYLES,STING,Ric flair,it dont matter many wrestling fans see TNA as imposter of WCW.TNA is trying to be the next WCW and everone can see right threw them,Thats why WWE is not worry at all.
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 1, 2010 22:26:55 GMT -5
TNA is WCW 1999-2001. I don't like to say that, but they are KILLING it. Who is Panda Energy merging with?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2010 22:32:19 GMT -5
TNA isnt competion at all. If Heat were still around itd get better ratings than TNA........
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Post by thegenius on Apr 1, 2010 22:59:59 GMT -5
Triple H is not the problem in WWE. He actually HAS talent. John Cena is the problem with WWE. He is being made to look absolutely unstoppable, even when somebody beats him, there is always an excuse. See - "Now that I look at it, I think John Cena lost his balance or his foot slipped, regardless... Sheamus is your WWE Champion".
Lines like that add nothing to the product, and I bet thats what drove some fans out. Not the line, but the invincibility of John Cena. We like chracters we can relate to, like Stone Cold, like Ric Flair. You know? Human beings. Who can lose a match and say "You got me, and I'm taking my title back". No strings attached, Cena is constantly all about never giving up, and when it's all said and done, he always ALWAYS gets the last laugh. That's not because he's a face, it's just because he's John Cena. Triple H atleast has something special about him... he can wrestle a damn good match. John Cena gets beat down, kicks out of a few finishers and locks in that lame-ass STF. You should be crediting Cena's opponent when he has a good match, not him.
And that is my opinion before anybody tries to say it's a fact.
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Post by ß®å¢K$ßâ¢k on Apr 1, 2010 23:05:16 GMT -5
TNA is WCW 1999-2001. I don't like to say that, but they are KILLING it. Who is Panda Energy merging with? I meant Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo.
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