threehgame
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Post by threehgame on Apr 10, 2010 15:48:36 GMT -5
After watching some youtube round by round vids of the fight it seems like Silva just wanted Maia to plant his feet and trade with him. It seems like those are the only fights Silva is into anymore, and the way he was acting in the second it looked like he felt that is what his challengers are supposed to do. I can not say Silva's actions surprise me, anyone else think we should start a clock to see how long it takes before he announces he has vacated the 185 lbs. title and will finish his contracted fights at 205?
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Post by Mr. Orange on Apr 10, 2010 15:52:24 GMT -5
And one more response from Dana. At the press conference:
"Believe me, I'll answer the questions of what a disgrace the main event was."
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 10, 2010 15:53:50 GMT -5
You know what's funny? Leading up to this event, Dana had this huge argument with Ariel Helwani about Anderson being the P4P best in the world. I wonder if he REALLY feels this way after tonight.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 10, 2010 15:54:12 GMT -5
DANA is PISSSSSED guys: Dana's and Ariel Helwani's Twitter: ''I don't want to see GSP vs. Silva after tonight. Silva might be the first champion fighting on a prelim. I don't want to see that sh*t'' -- DW ''If you're that talented, be mike tyson. go in there and finish'' -- DW. ''I'm so blown away and disgusted and saddened''. -- DW "For something like this happen, I honestly ... I apologize and I embarrassed -- DW" ''According to @kevini and @cameomo, Dana threw down the title and left in the 4th round.'' I would be too if my champion and the most hyped guy in the company pulls this crap Dana is so correct. I'd have done the same thing too if I was him. I didn't even wonder why he wasn't in the Octagon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2010 15:57:12 GMT -5
I missed this event, but seeing Penn FINALLY lose and the whole debacle Silva did (and just think I complimented his skills earlier) makes me want to watch the replay for sure.
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Post by XHW on Apr 10, 2010 16:14:18 GMT -5
haven't seen the fights but just heard results, amazed and excited to see Frankie Edgar win
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 10, 2010 16:40:42 GMT -5
You know what's funny? Leading up to this event, Dana had this huge argument with Ariel Helwani about Anderson being the P4P best in the world. I wonder if he REALLY feels this way after tonight. Dana makes an ass of himself every time he talks about the "best P4P fighters in the world."
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Post by uvfan1 on Apr 10, 2010 17:54:11 GMT -5
Aoki # 1 LW. Glad for Edgar, not even going to say anything about the Anderson fight......
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Post by NAЯDO on Apr 10, 2010 23:10:37 GMT -5
Omg, Frank Edgar just defeated Penn. Can't believe it. Wow.
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Post by NAЯDO on Apr 10, 2010 23:40:14 GMT -5
damn, silva is just having sparring
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Post by nWo_Sentinel on Apr 11, 2010 0:37:02 GMT -5
I have bought every UFC PPV since November 2008 and this is the FIRST one that I feel COMPLETELY ripped off.
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Post by nWo_Sentinel on Apr 11, 2010 0:43:14 GMT -5
And to be honest I actually think Damian should have got the decision against silva.
Name one thing Anderson did after round 2 that should have scored a point.....Damian was at least hitting him in the last 3 rounds..He wasent beating the crap out of him but he got two to three shots in rounds 3, 4, and 5. Silva did nothing the last three rounds. He's a douche.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 1:19:34 GMT -5
I don't think Demian should have gotten the decision, but I do think Maia should have taken more chances. He landed with a few strikes and (to me) looked very sloppy with his takedowns, most noticeably the one where he tried to latch on to the leg.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 11, 2010 1:22:20 GMT -5
Worst call in possibly history giving the decision to Edgar. Penn definitely needs the first match against him.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 1:27:19 GMT -5
Are you kidding me? Edgar landed the more clean shots and even took him down twice. When was the last time BJ got taken down at Lightweight? 2001? Edgar won, plain and simple. I am very proud of him and can't wait to see him once he comes back home.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 11, 2010 2:35:10 GMT -5
No I'm not kidding at all, and that's funny, I remember someone's complaing about the "horribly flawed scoring system of the UFC" after the Silva/Evans fight, but now since it worked in favor of the hometown hero, it's "plain and simple"? Hmmm...
First time in 6 years Penn's been taken down btw. I'm not denying that Frankie didn't look good, he looked better than anyone Penn's fought since GSP, and I'm very happy for him too, I'm sure he worked his ass off for this, but did he look good enough to win? Nah.
Edgar's first takedown in the 2nd round, got nothing done, BJ fell on his ass, and was up on his feet faster than he fell. The second takedown was MUCH better than the first, but again, Penn was up and swinging as fast as he hit the ground, he spent maybe 9 seconds of the entire fight on the ground and Edgar got in maybe 1 shot while Penn was down. And for those two takedowns Edgar landed, Penn effectively stuffed and countered about 7 or 8.
I counted almost 2 dozen stiff, hard connects straight to Edgar's face and jaw, and many, many other decent shots Penn snuck in here and there. Edgar's striking wasn't nearly as effective. For every 1 decent shot Edgar would connect with, BJ would land 3 or 4 equal or better.
The only round I would give completely the Edgar is the 5th, and that's because Penn tried to slow the pace and Frankie pushed it as hard as he could. Very impressive on his part.
I'm gonna guess you and Edgar are buddies or sparring partners or something? I have NOTHING against Frankie, hell of a guy, hell of a fighter, but I doubt you'd feel the same way if you didn't know him or weren't a fan or whatever it is.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 2:40:48 GMT -5
It's pretty funny that you would think I am automatically biased towards Edgar because I have trained with him. In fact, you're wrong. I remember I told Frankie that he should NOT have taken this fight. I felt it was too early for him and he needs to work on some more things before he fights someone like Penn. In fact, I thought there was absolutely no way Edgar was going to win tonight, but he proved me wrong. He used excellent footwork, and very good head movement to win this fight. Do I think he won all rounds? Not at all. Was it a close fight? It sure as hell was, but Edgar did more damage and looked a lot more active in the striking realm. Maybe you should watch again. Penn landed lots of counters, but that isn't enough to win.
Fact is, Penn did NOT look like the Penn who fought Florian and Sanchez. He looked way slower, and for some odd reason, he didn't listen to his corner much. I believe if Penn took it to the ground like his corner wanted, he would have won the fight easily, because Edgar's Jiu-Jitsu is in dire need of improvement.
Even BJ knows he lost. It should be case closed right there.
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Post by NAЯDO on Apr 11, 2010 2:41:37 GMT -5
the decisions were just right for me, Edgar definitely got the edge over Penn, it was definitely a great fight, pretty boring, I was expecting for Penn to win in 3to4 round but that didn't happen, a rematch would be great
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Post by 1992 on Apr 11, 2010 2:47:32 GMT -5
Even BJ knows he lost. It should be case closed right there. You talked to Penn after the fight? Was he a nice guy? No counters aren't enough to win, and neither are two ineffective takedowns. How long was Edgar on top of Penn? How much time did Penn spend on his back? How much damage was dealt? I've already watched the entire fight 3 times now my friend, including while I was replying to you so I wouldn't be biased or overlook a thing, that's why my reply took so long. It's funny how you tell me to go back and watch the fight again too, you should too, see how incredibly effective Penn's striking was in the first 4 rounds compared to Edgar's. Was Penn dominant? Not as much as he could have been, Frankie's incredible speed obviously caught him off guard, but it was way to close of a fight for the title to change hands.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:05:20 GMT -5
I wasn't at the fight, but on BJ Penn's website, he has put up videos for the members section talking about his performance and now he "doesn't know where he goes from here". BJ knows he wasn't himself. It was very close. I don't think Edgar's takedowns were effective enough to give him the fight alone. The point is that he got him down when Florian or Sanchez couldn't. Something had to be wrong with Penn. Some type of injury or not taking Edgar seriously.
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