uvfan1
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Post by uvfan1 on Apr 11, 2010 16:59:29 GMT -5
Round 1 and 2 were Penns. 3,4,5 were Edgars slightly. I don't see how anyone could give it otherwise unless you're bias. because Pens you're favorite fighter something.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 11, 2010 17:27:25 GMT -5
Round 1 and 2 were Penns. 3,4,5 were Edgars slightly. I don't see how anyone could give it otherwise unless you're bias. because Pens you're favorite fighter something. And again.. www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.htmlNumbers don't lie my friend.
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Post by Greensborohill on Apr 11, 2010 17:27:38 GMT -5
Round 1 and 2 were Penns. 3,4,5 were Edgars slightly. I don't see how anyone could give it otherwise unless you're bias. because Pens you're favorite fighter something. Everything is up for debate in that fight. It wasn't clear cut. The point is, the loss is Penn's fault because he wasn't aggressive and he let it go to the judges, so in that sense BJ fans and BJ himself shouldn't complain. And to his credit, BJ isn't.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 17:29:45 GMT -5
Round 1 and 2 were Penns. 3,4,5 were Edgars slightly. I don't see how anyone could give it otherwise unless you're bias. because Pens you're favorite fighter something. And again.. www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.htmlNumbers don't lie my friend. Numbers don't matter AFTER the fight. The judges and everyone who's watching LIVE and WHILE ITS HAPPENING favor whoever was more aggressive, who did more damage and was more active. That guy was Frankie Edgar.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 11, 2010 17:31:45 GMT -5
The judges and everyone who's watching LIVE and WHILE ITS HAPPENING favor whoever was more aggressive, who did more damage Like they did for Thiago Silva(vs. Evans) or Shogun(vs. Machida)? I'm not complaining or taking anything away from Edgar, but as quickly as people are to fault Penn for not taking it down, I'll defend him for what he did standing up. It wasn't an amazing performance, but no way did he deserve to lose.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 18:25:57 GMT -5
No. Last nights winner was a LOT more clear-cut than those two.
And, yeah. They gave it to Evans being more "Aggressive", but he didn't do any damage, nor was he incredibly active.
I don't even need to go into the Shogun fight.
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Post by JakksFigFan on Apr 11, 2010 18:31:54 GMT -5
Round 1 and 2 were Penns. 3,4,5 were Edgars slightly. I don't see how anyone could give it otherwise unless you're bias. because Pens you're favorite fighter something. And again.. www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.htmlNumbers don't lie my friend. The fight-metric stats aren't produced by some super computer or anything, just some guy counting the strikes and basing his decision only on the stats. Plus the guy has been clearly biased towards Penn in the past. I for one am glad to see someone dethroning Penn (not because I dislike Penn, He is one of my favorite fighters.) It opens up so many more match ups for the title. I scored the fight 49-48 Edgar but rounds 1-4 were all razor thin.
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Post by BASTARDKING on Apr 11, 2010 20:46:44 GMT -5
Good for Frankie Edgar to pull out with an upset like that. I kinda feel as if BJ was probably hurt going into the fight, so that must've hindered his performance greatly. And as for the Anderson Silva and Demaian Maia fight....... No comment
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 11, 2010 22:18:27 GMT -5
FIGHTMETRIC SCORED THE FIGHT...
Round 1: 94-34 Penn
Round 2: 110-28 Penn
Round 3: 55-43 Penn
Round 4: 57-55 Penn
Round 5: 96-63 Edgar
I watched the fight last night and though I don't think it was an outrageously bad decision, I do find it weird that one of the judges scored the fight 50-45 for Edgar.
I honestly do not understand how someone could score the first round in favor of Edgar.
In the end, I would've given the fight to Penn, 48-47. First three rounds to Penn, final two rounds to Edgar.
I really think that the two pointless "takedowns" (and I put that in quotations because he did absolutely nothing with them) that Edgar got were the difference in the fight, and I don't understand that. As a judge, if you're going to count takedowns, then you need to count escapes -- especially quick escapes.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 11, 2010 22:53:08 GMT -5
They should, but they don't.
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Post by NYdream™ on Apr 11, 2010 23:55:17 GMT -5
I saw Penn winning it but its probably my Bias. Edgar did a great job and deserves his victory... But IMO Penn didnt get beat that bad and deserves a rematch. Maybe even immediatly. Because Kenflo would be next and Kenflo got dominated by BJ and BJ had trouble with Edgar so IMO BJ is still next in line...
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 12, 2010 0:07:06 GMT -5
Penn probably won't be fighting at Lightweight again.
I think this should all be behind us now. Edgar is the new champion, and I think this can make for lots of interesting match-ups at Lightweight. What we all should REALLY be looking forward to is UFC 113 and the most epic of all rematches, Machida vs. Shogun 2.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 12, 2010 0:12:02 GMT -5
Agreed.
Something else for us to argue about James. Haha
Hopefully you never sparred with Machida. ;D
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 12, 2010 0:58:37 GMT -5
Unfortunately not.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 12, 2010 1:23:31 GMT -5
I think Maia should have done more of these FOR SURE: Anderson puts his hands down because he thinks Maia is going to shoot for a takedown, but ends up getting punched instead.
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Post by ZT on Apr 12, 2010 7:11:11 GMT -5
I was watching this at a Buffalo Wild Wings, and the loudest reaction of the night by far was when Dan put his finger in Anderson's face late in the fight and threatened to deduct a point. Everyone at my table was pissed off watching what Silva was doing.
Fact is I think he should have done it sooner.
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Post by Greensborohill on Apr 12, 2010 7:19:53 GMT -5
Maynard versus Penn
Edgar (c) versus Florian
winners face off
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Post by gothereds on Apr 12, 2010 8:19:34 GMT -5
FIGHTMETRIC SCORED THE FIGHT... Round 1: 94-34 Penn Round 2: 110-28 Penn Round 3: 55-43 Penn Round 4: 57-55 Penn Round 5: 96-63 Edgar I watched the fight last night and though I don't think it was an outrageously bad decision, I do find it weird that one of the judges scored the fight 50-45 for Edgar. I honestly do not understand how someone could score the first round in favor of Edgar. In the end, I would've given the fight to Penn, 48-47. First three rounds to Penn, final two rounds to Edgar. I really think that the two pointless "takedowns" (and I put that in quotations because he did absolutely nothing with them) that Edgar got were the difference in the fight, and I don't understand that. As a judge, if you're going to count takedowns, then you need to count escapes -- especially quick escapes. I totally agree that 50-45 was outrageous. That first round is Penn's, no question, and the 4th/5th are Edgar's, no question. Rounds 2 and 3 were so razor tight, due to Edgar landing shots when he went in, but BJ landing just as many counter shots. Close decision, yes. Wrong decision points-wise yes. Wrong decision winner-wise, no. I gave it 48-47 to Edgar.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 12, 2010 8:24:05 GMT -5
Maynard versus Penn Edgar (c) versus Florian winners face off I personally feel that's the wrong way around. In my eyes, Florian doesn't deserve a title shot for taking apart Clay Guida and a past-it or "octagon-jittered" Takanori Gomi. Edgar vs Penn II for the title. Maynard vs Florian for contendership. The loser of Edgar/Penn, I have no idea what to do. There aren't really any LW's that seem fathamable for Edgar or Penn. The loser of Maynard/Florian takes on either George Sotiropolous, or the winner of Tyson Griffin/Evan Dunham.
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Post by Greensborohill on Apr 12, 2010 10:33:12 GMT -5
Maynard versus Penn Edgar (c) versus Florian winners face off I personally feel that's the wrong way around. In my eyes, Florian doesn't deserve a title shot for taking apart Clay Guida and a past-it or "octagon-jittered" Takanori Gomi. Edgar vs Penn II for the title. Maynard vs Florian for contendership. The loser of Edgar/Penn, I have no idea what to do. There aren't really any LW's that seem fathamable for Edgar or Penn. The loser of Maynard/Florian takes on either George Sotiropolous, or the winner of Tyson Griffin/Evan Dunham. Don't you think Dana would want to take care of his TUF I alumni by giving him a title shot against someone he could possibly defeat?
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