Seahorse
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Post by Seahorse on Apr 15, 2010 15:31:23 GMT -5
Lol @ Random Hero owning Rays. Your a RAW threadhead but have orlando jizzing on himself in your sig and avatar??um you must be an idiot if you think he OWNED me... I said whats wrong with liking both companies.... he never answered that.. just keep throwing out WWE jabs and how great britney is without seeing the point i was trying to make on his comment about how can EVERYBODY be wrong to have his opinion..some people around here prob never watched impact... but they act like they do and bash TNA to death.. for what? to be on this banwagon.. I just cant see how some people just cant enjoy wrestling like we did back in the day ... some people just need to get a life I watch... Both shows? And I was talking about the whole Britney Spears thing.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 15, 2010 15:36:07 GMT -5
@bret_Hart_Mark Wait, how the am I in denial? I backed up everything I said, I'm sorry that you disagree with what I said but to say I'm in denial is a ridiculous accusation. Everything I brought up, I backed up with fact. Also, I love how you basically tell me I don't know "poop about the history of TNA". That's ing hilarious for a variety of reasons. First off, TNA wasn't "almost done" when they lost the Fox Sports Deal. They still produced shows via the internet AND produced monthly pay-per-views on top of that. So, no they weren't "alkmost done". Also, you said "after they lost the Fox sports deal, then WWE left Spike to go back to USA." - Actually, WWE announced in April that they had signed with NBC to return to USA Network with the final show airing in September.. iMPACT aired on FSN until May 27th/contract expired in May, so that means WWE had signed the deal because TNA had even left. So, to quote you.. "History, let's remember it correctly people." Secondly, he DID crap on every guy I named. He called the roster "second rate" - I could've sworn every freaking guy I named was on the ROSTER. He didn't say "X-Division Roster" or "Half the roster", he said THE roster. So, every guy I named - he did crap on.. I love how you tell me to have the facts and/or the "correct histrionics" when I think I know just a LITTLE bit about the history of TNA. I mean.. it's not like I run a website that is focused around that very thing..or.. have listened/watched/read anything that has to do with the company from Day 1. I'm just saying'.. it's funny how I'm told I don't know the "facts". Let's face it, I don't know EVERYTHING about TNA.. but I think I know a lot more than you gave me credit for..
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 15:40:07 GMT -5
So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product? I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately.
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 15:44:28 GMT -5
So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product? I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. sheer brilliance... well enlighten us.. and stop making excuses for why you cant
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 15:50:23 GMT -5
I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. sheer brilliance... well enlighten us.. and stop making excuses for why you cant I don't want your head to explode.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 15, 2010 15:50:57 GMT -5
So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product? I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. In reference to the bold part, besides the video that this whole thread is about? He stated in his video that people, TNA fans, that think TNA iMPACT is a better product than Monday Night RAW are "morons" and "crazy".. so.. uh.. he did basically say it's wrong to like TNA since we're a bunch of "morons". Honestly, though, these arguments at this point is completely pointless. I'm not going to stop liking, watching, and supporting TNA because you or anyone else doesn't like it.. and to that point.. you're not going to start to love it because I or anyone else like it. Let's just agree to disagree on weather TNA is great or TNA is horrible. We're all entitled to our opinion and none of us will change each others.
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Post by jfinnomore on Apr 15, 2010 15:52:35 GMT -5
I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. In reference to the bold part, besides the video that this whole thread is about? He stated in his video that people, TNA fans, that think TNA iMPACT is a better product than Monday Night RAW are "morons" and "crazy".. so.. uh.. he did basically say it's wrong to like TNA since we're a bunch of "morons". he didn't say there was anything wrong with being a moron, just that TNA fans are just that.
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 15:52:55 GMT -5
I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. In reference to the bold part, besides the video that this whole thread is about? He stated in his video that people, TNA fans, that think TNA iMPACT is a better product than Monday Night RAW are "morons" and "crazy".. so.. uh.. he did basically say it's wrong to like TNA since we're a bunch of "morons". Well, I never said you were a moron. And I love you, soo, problem solved.
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Post by No Brokeback on Apr 15, 2010 15:58:43 GMT -5
Just for the intro. I haven't bashed WWE once since becoming a TNA fan, mostly because that show doesn't matter to me. Why would I watch a show I have no interest in? Sounds like a waste of time.
However, WWE fans come in here all the time and be sure to tell me how much watching TNA sucked. While I actually enjoyed the show it gave me.
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Post by thegenius on Apr 15, 2010 16:01:46 GMT -5
He's wrong. TNA make new stars, WWE don't. They shoot Sheamus and Swagger to the main event and job them out to the guys who can never lose like Cena. TNA had Mr. Anderson go over Kurt Angle CLEAN twice, no "his foot slipped off the rope", no distractions, he was the better man, period. WWE's main event is STILL Cena, Triple H, Orton, Batista, Edge and Undertaker. That's the way it's been since about 2005. I'm flat-out sick of it. I can't believe guys are complaining about TNA when they have an alternative to this terrible BS that WWE brings out. TNA's main event consists of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, The Pope, Abyss, RVD and Jeff Hardy. Notice a pattern here? TNA have no super human characters that can never be beat clean, it feels fresh and is the perfect opposite alternative to that train crash that be's on USA Network every monday at 9:00. Tell me who WWE is building up, name ONE guy that WWE is building up? Jack Swagger and Sheamus have held the belt, they weren't built up. They're not credible because WWE is afraid to have them beat anybody worth a damn. Jack Swagger pinning John Morrison won't accomplish sh*t. Sheamus beating MVP won't accomplish sh*t. That's not because Morrison and MVP are no good, it's because they're not exactly on the level of Cena and Orton. Two guys Sheamus couldn't beat clean. Thus making him, his title reign and his credibility look like a JOKE. You talk about terrible idea's that TNA come up with, like winning the Knockouts title in a game of Deal or No Deal, but what you fail to realize is that WWE is JUST as bad, if not worse. TNA don't force feed us these terrible ideas every week, where-as we've been absolutely bored to our ever-loving DEATH of that stupid guest host storyline that consists of the same segments, using the same wrestlers, and the exact same ING formula. And their main event? their main event. We've seen every combination of Cena/Orton/Batista/HHH/Taker/Edge. Tell me you've seen all of those guys in TNA's main event face off before. Have we seen Styles/RVD? No. Have we seen Hardy/RVD? Not in a TNA ring. Have we seen Angle vs Hardy? I don't remember it. Angle/RVD? Again, not in a TNA ring. Again, WWE is just as bad, if not worse. The only difference is "it's cool to laugh at TNA's ratings and pick apart their ideas", but with WWE, it's alright cause they get good ratings. BULL ING SHIT. They get low ratings cause nobody watches it, not cause their ideas are bad. They put on better PPV matches than WWE and better TV matches half of the time. We see a new thing every week, even if it's sometimes bad. Rant over.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 15, 2010 16:07:28 GMT -5
Just for the intro. I haven't bashed WWE once since becoming a TNA fan, mostly because that show doesn't matter to me. Why would I watch a show I have no interest in? Sounds like a waste of time. However, WWE fans come in here all the time and be sure to tell me how much watching TNA sucked. While I actually enjoyed the show it gave me. Exactly.
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Post by downsyndrome on Apr 15, 2010 16:17:16 GMT -5
Just for the intro. I haven't bashed WWE once since becoming a TNA fan, mostly because that show doesn't matter to me. Why would I watch a show I have no interest in? Sounds like a waste of time. However, WWE fans come in here all the time and be sure to tell me how much watching TNA sucked. While I actually enjoyed the show it gave me. Exactly. Here is the thing, TNA fans...at least the ones I talk to you on here are pretty humble people. WWE fans are not, case in point every time the ratings come out I read about how my "precious" TNA got owned. Why boast? You knew they were going to win and that's fine. If TNA does not do something I like I don't trash it most of the time. Unless it's Abyss... anyways I just don't defend it. WWE it's easy for me to trash it, because I want to see Cena and Batista for the 4 millionth time. Thank god TNA is giving me Pope, who funny enough I guess was not good enough to hang with Cena right? He only has more Charisma and is better in the ring. Anyways, TNA is giving me A.J and pope.... guess what? It's fresh. This guy really has little to argue against, TNA is making Pope a star when WWE would not give him the time of day. Point is, TNA is giving guys a chance that the WWE would not give the time of day to.
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 16:25:33 GMT -5
He's wrong. TNA make new stars, WWE don't. They shoot Sheamus and Swagger to the main event and job them out to the guys who can never lose like Cena. TNA had Mr. Anderson go over Kurt Angle CLEAN twice, no "his foot slipped off the rope", no distractions, he was the better man, period. WWE's main event is STILL Cena, Triple H, Orton, Batista, Edge and Undertaker. That's the way it's been since about 2005. I'm flat-out sick of it. I can't believe guys are complaining about TNA when they have an alternative to this terrible BS that WWE brings out. TNA's main event consists of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, The Pope, Abyss, RVD and Jeff Hardy. Notice a pattern here? TNA have no super human characters that can never be beat clean, it feels fresh and is the perfect opposite alternative to that train crash that be's on USA Network every monday at 9:00. Tell me who WWE is building up, name ONE guy that WWE is building up? Jack Swagger and Sheamus have held the belt, they weren't built up. They're not credible because WWE is afraid to have them beat anybody worth a damn. Jack Swagger pinning John Morrison won't accomplish sh*t. Sheamus beating MVP won't accomplish sh*t. That's not because Morrison and MVP are no good, it's because they're not exactly on the level of Cena and Orton. Two guys Sheamus couldn't beat clean. Thus making him, his title reign and his credibility look like a JOKE. You talk about terrible idea's that TNA come up with, like winning the Knockouts title in a game of Deal or No Deal, but what you fail to realize is that WWE is JUST as bad, if not worse. TNA don't force feed us these terrible ideas every week, where-as we've been absolutely bored to our ever-loving DEATH of that stupid guest host storyline that consists of the same segments, using the same wrestlers, and the exact same ING formula. And their main event? their main event. We've seen every combination of Cena/Orton/Batista/HHH/Taker/Edge. Tell me you've seen all of those guys in TNA's main event face off before. Have we seen Styles/RVD? No. Have we seen Hardy/RVD? Not in a TNA ring. Have we seen Angle vs Hardy? I don't remember it. Angle/RVD? Again, not in a TNA ring. Again, WWE is just as bad, if not worse. The only difference is "it's cool to laugh at TNA's ratings and pick apart their ideas", but with WWE, it's alright cause they get good ratings. BULL ING poop. They get low ratings cause nobody watches it, not cause their ideas are bad. They put on better PPV matches than WWE and better TV matches half of the time. We see a new thing every week, even if it's sometimes bad. Rant over. Oh man. No, no, no. Samoa Joe has been off television for some time now. He's not part of the main event if he's not even on TV. Silly. TNA is afraid Jeff Hardy is going to die or end up in jail. Enough said. Rob Van Dam was subjected to a 10 minute beat down during his debut. Silly. Abyss uses Hulk Hogan's Hall of Fame ring to give him "Super Human" strength to smash old men through wooden ramps and push a group of people into a hole in a ring. WWE's new stars have more credability than TNA's young stars. Swagger and Sheamus have original characters rather than Styles's Flair ripoff persona, Abyss-a-mania, and Samoa Joe's Taz gimmick. I'd rather watch old timers like Taker and HHH because they've been main stays in WWE and still draw ratings. TNA is bringing in whatever the cat coughed up because it tasted good 10 years ago but now it's not drawing ratings. The reason I laugh at TNA and call them silly is because they're trying to market themselves as the next big thing with stars that are past their prime. I don't want to see old, faken' bake tits flopping around a wrestling ring anymore. And the fact that they think people do, is awesome for them. Again, optimism - denial. Edit: I guess I forgot to discuss your "bad ideas being shoved down our throat" but I'll just let Orlando Jordan jizzing on himself speak for itself.
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Post by No Brokeback on Apr 15, 2010 16:26:58 GMT -5
Another thing, we know WWE is the better show. They have better production. Have been doing live shows for years. Great theme music for each wrestler. You can't beat that.
But why does it matter if TNA isnt making 'new' stars. To me, almost all of TNA's roster is 'new' to me.
I haven't heard so many people BITCH about using old talent as much as they do now in TNA. They've always used WWE talent, new and old talent. But since Hogan is in there now, people will just crapall over it..because they never liked Hogan.
Oh well. I'm going to do what most wrestling fans cant do across the internet. Sit back, and enjoy each show..not only enjoy each show, but also look forward to watching it a few days before hand. I can't wait for the PPV.
Why?
I dont even know. There aren't any amazing storylines, but I just enjoy watching it. Also, there's a stable that makes sense. Ric Flair and his team, which I hope stick around for a very long time.
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Post by thegenius on Apr 15, 2010 16:33:34 GMT -5
He's wrong. TNA make new stars, WWE don't. They shoot Sheamus and Swagger to the main event and job them out to the guys who can never lose like Cena. TNA had Mr. Anderson go over Kurt Angle CLEAN twice, no "his foot slipped off the rope", no distractions, he was the better man, period. WWE's main event is STILL Cena, Triple H, Orton, Batista, Edge and Undertaker. That's the way it's been since about 2005. I'm flat-out sick of it. I can't believe guys are complaining about TNA when they have an alternative to this terrible BS that WWE brings out. TNA's main event consists of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, The Pope, Abyss, RVD and Jeff Hardy. Notice a pattern here? TNA have no super human characters that can never be beat clean, it feels fresh and is the perfect opposite alternative to that train crash that be's on USA Network every monday at 9:00. Tell me who WWE is building up, name ONE guy that WWE is building up? Jack Swagger and Sheamus have held the belt, they weren't built up. They're not credible because WWE is afraid to have them beat anybody worth a damn. Jack Swagger pinning John Morrison won't accomplish sh*t. Sheamus beating MVP won't accomplish sh*t. That's not because Morrison and MVP are no good, it's because they're not exactly on the level of Cena and Orton. Two guys Sheamus couldn't beat clean. Thus making him, his title reign and his credibility look like a JOKE. You talk about terrible idea's that TNA come up with, like winning the Knockouts title in a game of Deal or No Deal, but what you fail to realize is that WWE is JUST as bad, if not worse. TNA don't force feed us these terrible ideas every week, where-as we've been absolutely bored to our ever-loving DEATH of that stupid guest host storyline that consists of the same segments, using the same wrestlers, and the exact same ING formula. And their main event? their main event. We've seen every combination of Cena/Orton/Batista/HHH/Taker/Edge. Tell me you've seen all of those guys in TNA's main event face off before. Have we seen Styles/RVD? No. Have we seen Hardy/RVD? Not in a TNA ring. Have we seen Angle vs Hardy? I don't remember it. Angle/RVD? Again, not in a TNA ring. Again, WWE is just as bad, if not worse. The only difference is "it's cool to laugh at TNA's ratings and pick apart their ideas", but with WWE, it's alright cause they get good ratings. BULL ING poop. They get low ratings cause nobody watches it, not cause their ideas are bad. They put on better PPV matches than WWE and better TV matches half of the time. We see a new thing every week, even if it's sometimes bad. Rant over. Oh man. No, no, no. Samoa Joe has been off television for some time now. He's not part of the main event if he's not even on TV. Silly. TNA is afraid Jeff Hardy is going to die or end up in jail. Enough said. Rob Van Dam was subjected to a 10 minute beat down during his debut. Silly. Abyss uses Hulk Hogan's Hall of Fame ring to give him "Super Human" strength to smash old men through wooden ramps and push a group of people into a hole in a ring. WWE's new stars have more credability than TNA's young stars. Swagger and Sheamus have original characters rather than Styles's Flair ripoff persona, Abyss-a-mania, and Samoa Joe's Taz gimmick. I'd rather watch old timers like Taker and HHH because they've been main stays in WWE and still draw ratings. TNA is bringing in whatever the cat coughed up because it tasted good 10 years ago but now it's not drawing ratings. The reason I laugh at TNA and call them silly is because they're trying to market themselves as the next big thing with stars that are past their prime. I don't want to see old, faken' bake tits flopping around a wrestling ring anymore. And the fact that they think people do, is awesome for them. Again, optimism - denial. Styles isn't copying Flair, that's what people fail to realize. The storyline is about Flair MAKING Styles act like how he did. When Styles eventually gets sick of being brainwashed, he will turn on Flair in about a year (or less). Abyss and his super-powered ring is no different than Undertaker shooting lightning bolts out of his hands. Don't hear many people complaining about that now, do we? Samoa Joe got kidnapped, you complain they don't talk about this. Well, don't you think it would be a little ridiculous if they started talking about it when they don't know where the he is? What are they supposed to talk about? There has been no information on his where-abouts. Just give it time and they will eventually say something. You're kidding the out of me, right? Sheamus and Swagger have little to no credibility. Because WWE doesn't allow them to have any, they hotshot them to the main event and hand them the title and then proceed to have them beat nobody worth a damn. Hell, Doug Williams probably has more credibility than Swagger does right now. Just cause he's carrying a belt around, doesn't mean he has credibility. WWE can't build up stars anymore, period. Anybody who thinks they can, is an absolute idiot and needs to watch the damn show. TNA have been building up the Pope since Against All Odds (and before). When was the last time you saw two guys like Pope and Anderson main event a WWE PPV together?
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Post by No Brokeback on Apr 15, 2010 16:34:55 GMT -5
You can't argue with people that dislike TNA. It's just going to go back and fourth, going no where. Bad bad bad
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 16:41:05 GMT -5
Oh man. No, no, no. Samoa Joe has been off television for some time now. He's not part of the main event if he's not even on TV. Silly. TNA is afraid Jeff Hardy is going to die or end up in jail. Enough said. Rob Van Dam was subjected to a 10 minute beat down during his debut. Silly. Abyss uses Hulk Hogan's Hall of Fame ring to give him "Super Human" strength to smash old men through wooden ramps and push a group of people into a hole in a ring. WWE's new stars have more credability than TNA's young stars. Swagger and Sheamus have original characters rather than Styles's Flair ripoff persona, Abyss-a-mania, and Samoa Joe's Taz gimmick. I'd rather watch old timers like Taker and HHH because they've been main stays in WWE and still draw ratings. TNA is bringing in whatever the cat coughed up because it tasted good 10 years ago but now it's not drawing ratings. The reason I laugh at TNA and call them silly is because they're trying to market themselves as the next big thing with stars that are past their prime. I don't want to see old, faken' bake tits flopping around a wrestling ring anymore. And the fact that they think people do, is awesome for them. Again, optimism - denial. Styles isn't copying Flair, that's what people fail to realize. The storyline is about Flair MAKING Styles act like how he did. When Styles eventually gets sick of being brainwashed, he will turn on Flair in about a year (or less). Abyss and his super-powered ring is no different than Undertaker shooting lightning bolts out of his hands. Don't hear many people complaining about that now, do we? Samoa Joe got kidnapped, you complain they don't talk about this. Well, don't you think it would be a little ridiculous if they started talking about it when they don't know where the he is? What are they supposed to talk about? There has been no information on his where-abouts. Just give it time and they will eventually say something. You're kidding the out of me, right? Sheamus and Swagger have little to no credibility. Because WWE doesn't allow them to have any, they hotshot them to the main event and hand them the title and then proceed to have them beat nobody worth a damn. Hell, Doug Williams probably has more credibility than Swagger does right now. Just cause he's carrying a belt around, doesn't mean he has credibility. WWE can't build up stars anymore, period. Anybody who thinks they can, is an absolute idiot and needs to watch the damn show. TNA have been building up the Pope since Against All Odds (and before). When was the last time you saw two guys like Pope and Anderson main event a WWE PPV together? I played Smackdown the other night and had Burke vs. Kennedy at WrestleMania. You're so cute when you're angry
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 16:45:27 GMT -5
You can't argue with people that dislike TNA. It's just going to go back and fourth, going no where. Bad bad bad agree... there brains cant comprehend the fact that its ok just to enjoy wrestling and not to critique every second of the show Styles isn't copying Flair, that's what people fail to realize. The storyline is about Flair MAKING Styles act like how he did. When Styles eventually gets sick of being brainwashed, he will turn on Flair in about a year (or less). Abyss and his super-powered ring is no different than Undertaker shooting lightning bolts out of his hands. Don't hear many people complaining about that now, do we? Samoa Joe got kidnapped, you complain they don't talk about this. Well, don't you think it would be a little ridiculous if they started talking about it when they don't know where the he is? What are they supposed to talk about? There has been no information on his where-abouts. Just give it time and they will eventually say something. You're kidding the out of me, right? Sheamus and Swagger have little to no credibility. Because WWE doesn't allow them to have any, they hotshot them to the main event and hand them the title and then proceed to have them beat nobody worth a damn. Hell, Doug Williams probably has more credibility than Swagger does right now. Just cause he's carrying a belt around, doesn't mean he has credibility. WWE can't build up stars anymore, period. Anybody who thinks they can, is an absolute idiot and needs to watch the damn show. TNA have been building up the Pope since Against All Odds (and before). When was the last time you saw two guys like Pope and Anderson main event a WWE PPV together? I played Smackdown the other night and had Burke vs. Kennedy at WrestleMania. You're so cute when you're angry ok guys obviously if it happens on smackdown vs raw then its ok! Wow this guy builds him self up to be such a mature wrestling fan...but with a comment like that
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 16:57:46 GMT -5
You can't argue with people that dislike TNA. It's just going to go back and fourth, going no where. Bad bad bad agree... there brains cant comprehend the fact that its ok just to enjoy wrestling and not to critique every second of the show I played Smackdown the other night and had Burke vs. Kennedy at WrestleMania. You're so cute when you're angry ok guys obviously if it happens on smackdown vs raw then its ok! Wow this guy builds him self up to be such a mature wrestling fan...but with a comment like that [/quote] I don't even watch wrestling.......
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Post by joker123 on Apr 15, 2010 16:58:30 GMT -5
I can't. I'm so well informed that if I were to indulge my knowledge of the business and the tactics TNA could employ to better their company, all your heads would explode due to the sheer brilliance of my plan. If you guys (TNA fans, supporters, followers, etc..) enjoy watching Monday Night Impact, then more power to you. I, nor anyone else for that matter ever suggested that it was "wrong" to be a TNA fan. I loved TNA circa '04-'09. Call me a fan of fair weather but once the product started to suck, I turned away. However, this isn't about me. TNA already lost me as a viewer/customer and they won't get me back until they rid themselves of the people who are killing it. I.E. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. And PLEASE tell me that it's not Hogan and Bischoff ruining the show because I will dispute you for days and days and days and days. After all, my life consists of only informing those less informed wrestling fans of the faults that lie in TNA. I'm just bitter. TNA had all the right tools to be THE alternative to WWE. Go back and watch older TNA DVD's and tell me you didn't see something special in what they were producing. TNA was so far ahead of it's time back even when they started and it just ing sickens me that they were on such a good roll and could've made some small tweaks and revisited some ideas and concepts on the homefront to bring their company to the next level but they bring in Hogan and Bischoff. On paper, back in October, this looked amazing. On TV, it looks like the pasty skinned, flesh torn, brain eating zombie of the resurrected World Championship Wrestling. Now I don't care. From January 4th to whenever Hogan and Bischoff leave or the company dies, I do not care what goes on in TNA. They have taken the single bit of excitement that I had as a wrestling fan to enjoy a different product than WWE and pissed on it. A for effort, but they failed, ultimately. In reference to the bold part, besides the video that this whole thread is about? He stated in his video that people, TNA fans, that think TNA iMPACT is a better product than Monday Night RAW are "morons" and "crazy".. so.. uh.. he did basically say it's wrong to like TNA since we're a bunch of "morons". You can still be a TNA fan and think RAW is better. I know I do.
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