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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 20:42:24 GMT -5
Well something needs to be done about all these illegal immigrants. I just wish there was a better way to regulate such without profiling. That's because there is none. And for that one idiot who'll eventually say it, just because that person doesn't speak English, doesn't mean they are illegal. There are plenty of legal immigrants, Latino or otherwise who do not speak English or can't speak it well enough to carry a conversation so they have family translate. Of course this bill won't touch anyone but the Latinos, so it's already flawed from the outright. |
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Post by BulletV1 on Apr 26, 2010 21:17:12 GMT -5
Well correct me if I'm wrong here, but rights we all take for granted here, only apply to actual legal citizens/immigrants.
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 21:18:59 GMT -5
Well correct me if I'm wrong here, but rights we all take for granted here, only apply to actual legal citizens/immigrants. If you are arrested here and are not from here, you get all the same rights as citizens. |
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Post by *Ricky Spanish* on Apr 26, 2010 21:37:12 GMT -5
Well something needs to be done about all these illegal immigrants. yeah keep them all as fast food workers and maids and I'll stay happy  |
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Apr 26, 2010 21:51:52 GMT -5
I'm all for this bill.
Just because you can get past a fence doesn't mean you should be guaranteed rights.
Stand in line and get a f*cking green card.
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 21:53:10 GMT -5
I'm all for this bill. Just because you can get past a fence doesn't mean you should be guaranteed rights. Stand in line and get a f*cking green card. So you are ok with legal residents getting thrown in jail if they don't have proof of citizenship? |
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 26, 2010 21:57:58 GMT -5
It's racist, discriminatory and most likely illegal. Just like the Patriot Act. But here we are... |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 22:10:43 GMT -5
It's racist, discriminatory and most likely illegal. Just like the Patriot Act. But here we are... And I'm for repealing that as well. |
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Apr 26, 2010 22:16:41 GMT -5
I'm all for this bill. Just because you can get past a fence doesn't mean you should be guaranteed rights. Stand in line and get a f*cking green card. So you are ok with legal residents getting thrown in jail if they don't have proof of citizenship? I'm sure a legal resident's social security # can easily be obtained along with other documents such as birth certificates. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 22:21:15 GMT -5
So you are ok with legal residents getting thrown in jail if they don't have proof of citizenship? I'm sure a legal resident's social security # can easily be obtained along with other documents such as birth certificates. And I'm sure undocumented people can get those if they wanted them. They could get very real looking ones. Plus, they aren't going to pull over white people at and ask for proof of citizenship. They are going to be pulling over Hispanics and Hispanic looking people. |
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Apr 26, 2010 22:37:55 GMT -5
I'm sure a legal resident's social security # can easily be obtained along with other documents such as birth certificates. And I'm sure undocumented people can get those if they wanted them. They could get very real looking ones. Plus, they aren't going to pull over white people at and ask for proof of citizenship. They are going to be pulling over Hispanics and Hispanic looking people. well which of the two do most think snuck in? |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 23:06:08 GMT -5
And I'm sure undocumented people can get those if they wanted them. They could get very real looking ones. Plus, they aren't going to pull over white people at and ask for proof of citizenship. They are going to be pulling over Hispanics and Hispanic looking people. well which of the two do most think snuck in? It's racial profiling and that's illegal. |
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Apr 26, 2010 23:13:30 GMT -5
well which of the two do most think snuck in? It's racial profiling and that's illegal. Not in Arizona, apparently. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2010 23:15:47 GMT -5
It's racial profiling and that's illegal. Not in Arizona, apparently. Oh it is, there will be legal challenges to the bill and the bill be struck down. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 2:04:49 GMT -5
Just because a bill is passed doesnt mean its constitutional...The thing im most afraid of in this bill is the possibility of Legal American Citizens going to jail for no reason other than not having their papers on them..And that WILL happen..Adding to that point...Im sure most cops follow the law there...but you get 1 racist cop, or 1 cop in a bad mood, or 1 cop who abuses his power and you might have another huge legal and political fight on your hands will ALL kinds of civil rights groups which are gonna.
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 27, 2010 2:07:51 GMT -5
Just like the Patriot Act. But here we are... And I'm for repealing that as well. I know you are, I'm just pointing out how it apparently no longer matters how blatantly unconstitutional laws are. |
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Post by ICW on Apr 27, 2010 9:08:56 GMT -5
What a terrible bill...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 22:37:17 GMT -5
Terrible idea,I'm in favor of deporting illegals,but this can't be legal can it?
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 28, 2010 12:38:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry. Maybe profiling doesn't work for everyone, but we're definitely at a point where we need to do something, and if it takes providing proof of citizenship, at random, regardless if you're black, white, Latino, Hispanic, or otherwise, I'm all for it.
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Post by PdW2kX on Apr 28, 2010 12:53:01 GMT -5
That's great and everything, until you come to the realization that "at random" is never random.
This is going to encourage racial profiling, plain and simple. In ARIZONA, if you see a poor looking white guy and a poor looking Hispanic walking down the same street, who do you think a cop is more likely to stop and ask for proof of citizenship?
The good cops will do the whole "at random" thing, sure. But there's going to be a whole hell of a lot of racial profiling done because of this bill. As a proud Cuban-American, there's no way in hell you'll ever see me in favor of this bill.
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I dont know good luck 