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Post by rkokixas on Jul 19, 2010 19:08:20 GMT -5
DiBiase is a bore.I too thought Ted would be great but if he cant learn anything from working w/ guys like Orton,Dx etc(where Cody has)than he needs to try another line of work.Im no Miz fan but at least hes improved.Of course though CM would say Ted deserves the push though,its another of his 'friends."
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 19, 2010 19:17:57 GMT -5
DiBiase is a bore.I too thought Ted would be great but if he cant learn anything from working w/ guys like Orton,Dx etc(where Cody has)than he needs to try another line of work.Im no Miz fan but at least hes improved.Of course though CM would say Ted deserves the push though,its another of his 'friends." HEY its that guy that doesnt make posts on WFigs unless he mentions Randy Orton's name and somehow finds a way to try and take a shot at me. Please dont be jealous of all the cool people I get to meet. ;D |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 19:23:53 GMT -5
I don't want to hijack the thread and derail it, but this is ridiculous. Michelle CAN sell, she bumps just fine, has impeccable tiing with working with some who is decent - see matches with Victoria, Melina, Beth, and Gail for examples. Her gimmick is FAR from a ripoff of TBP, those girls use their sex appeal combined with being "BFF's" and "mean girls" for their gimmick. Guess what? It's entirely feasible that two women in another wrestling company can do a "BFF" gimmick and be mean and nasty by picking on other women, and it not be a ripoff of something TNA is doing. When McCool and Layla start slutting it up on television, and totally forget how to wrestle, please let me know. McCool is considered to be one of the most improved people in the WWE, not by me alone, but by a lot of publications as well. Maria put her over in her youshoot interview saying that Michelle is one of the most dedicated people in the company PERIOD, and that is why she has her spot. She trains all the time, and is always willing to learn new things (which she shows a lot of in her matches). Aside from all of that, she can go on the mat, knows in ring psychology, and can actually tell a story. I don't know what it is you have against her, but it isn't her in ring ability. I personally think whatever it is, just keeps you from being able to watch her with an open mind. ---And AJ Styles said he is flattered that Michelle uses the Styles Clash and doesn't mind at all. So why should you care? She also used daniels angel wings, angles ankle lock, and a few other tna stars finnishers. The fact that she is a ditzy blonde charachter who hangs with her BFF and makes fun of other girls looks is all things tbp use. They are like velvet and madison when angelina was still in the group. Okay, she used a double chicken wing elevated sit-out facebuster - Daniels wasn't the first person to use that. Sorry to break your heart. Is it what he's known for? Sure, I'll give you that music. She used an ankle lock for a VERY short time before using the Brazilian Heel Hook, and again - if AJ isn't bothered by her using the Clash, why are you? Are you saying Bret Hart stole Sting's Scorpion Death Lock? Edge, Lashley, and everyone else who ever used the Spear stoled that from Goldberg? Did Mistico steal the 619 from Rey? When Kaval does the Dragon Sleeper - did he steal it from Ultimo Dragon? Did Orton steal the Diamond Cutter from DDP? I could go on, but it's absolutely ridiculous how some of you think McCool just HAS to watch Impact to do ANYTHING... I guess with your logic, TBP stole their gimmick from PMS or Vince's Devils - and their wrestling ability from Ashley Massaro. Oh, and PLEASE do enlighten me on the "other" moves she took from TNA stars. Please. |
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 19, 2010 19:27:46 GMT -5
so glad the usual trolls have managed to derail the discussion at hand with superstar bashing
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 19, 2010 19:32:28 GMT -5
Exactly  This is about The Miz being the quite possible future of the company Its not about Michelle McCool, you wanna talk about her, go make a thread about her. |
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 19, 2010 19:37:05 GMT -5
I like The Miz and would have no problem with him rising to the top of RAW, especially if he, a heel would have a huge supporter at the Announce Table in Michael Cole.
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 19:41:42 GMT -5
Exactly This is about The Miz being the quite possible future of the company Its not about Michelle McCool, you wanna talk about her, go make a thread about her. I didn't bring her up, but God forbid I defend someone I genuinely like. |
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Post by Jord on Jul 19, 2010 19:43:48 GMT -5
The Miz is awesome, but I can unfortunately see him being the first guy to lose when they cash in their title shot. I hope I'm wrong, though.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 19, 2010 19:53:04 GMT -5
Exactly This is about The Miz being the quite possible future of the company Its not about Michelle McCool, you wanna talk about her, go make a thread about her. A thread about the Miz has to welcome pros and cons. She also used daniels angel wings, angles ankle lock, and a few other tna stars finnishers. The fact that she is a ditzy blonde charachter who hangs with her BFF and makes fun of other girls looks is all things tbp use. They are like velvet and madison when angelina was still in the group. Okay, she used a double chicken wing elevated sit-out facebuster - Daniels wasn't the first person to use that. Sorry to break your heart. Is it what he's known for? Sure, I'll give you that music. She used an ankle lock for a VERY short time before using the Brazilian Heel Hook, and again - if AJ isn't bothered by her using the Clash, why are you? Are you saying Bret Hart stole Sting's Scorpion Death Lock? Edge, Lashley, and everyone else who ever used the Spear stoled that from Goldberg? Did Mistico steal the 619 from Rey? When Kaval does the Dragon Sleeper - did he steal it from Ultimo Dragon? Did Orton steal the Diamond Cutter from DDP? I could go on, but it's absolutely ridiculous how some of you think McCool just HAS to watch Impact to do ANYTHING... I guess with your logic, TBP stole their gimmick from PMS or Vince's Devils - and their wrestling ability from Ashley Massaro. Oh, and PLEASE do enlighten me on the "other" moves she took from TNA stars. Please. Michelle can sell? I'm talking wrestling moves, not the crabs she is offering Taker.  Michelle McCool is a poor, poor seller. She has no ring psychology and I've seen refs taking better bumps than her. Impechable timing when working with someone decent? Its not hard when you are being led around like a dog on a leash by a superb in ring performer like a Victoria, Beth or Gail. How many times did Cena have great matches with Edge, HBK or even HHH? Laycool is CLEARLY a ripoff of TNA's TBP. Its not just that they are BFFs.....its also the fact that they are centered around their looks, like TBP and have made fun of other girls' looks like TBP. C'mon man! You cant be this naive. Slutting it up? If they could, I am sure they would. But WWE is PG, remember? And forgetting to wrestle? You are not seriously comparing Layla and McCool to Ashley Lane aka Madison Rayne? She can work. Velvet is meh, but still superior to MCool and Layla and Lacie is downright awful. And then there is Angelina, who is also superior to Laycool. Maria put her over in a shoot interview? Yippie. How is that relevant? Paul London slams Matt Hardy in his about how much of a horrible human being he is, but Christian Cage puts him over as a great guy.  As far as McCool working hard, I could make jokes about how hard she has to work with Taker underneath her......but let me just say this. I have no clue how hard she works or doesnt. I have no proof of either. She doesnt do much in media blitzes, autograph sessions or other marketing tools. But that doesnt mean she isnt busting her ass in the gym or working in the ring to improve. That I just dont know. Its funny how you say I am not having an open mind, cuz clearly your love for her clouds your judgment. I dont know why you have this hardon for her.....but I am calling it like I see it. I like Maria, but she is terrible in the ring. You can tell she tries, but she isnt a Mickie James or Beth Phoenix and probably never will be. I dont care that McCool uses the Styles Clash. Lets face it......its pretty damn hard to invent new wrestling moves in this day in age. If you like it, you can make it work, etc.....go for it. People who bitch about others stealing finishers is just absurd, especially considering they are in different companies. I simply stated a fact about her. The same fact that she clearly stole TBP gimmick. And stealing gimmicks isnt right. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 19:58:12 GMT -5
WOW, you sure are stuck on poking fun at McCool, and are awfully hung up on her relationship with Taker.
I can tell trying to have a decent debate with you, about this topic just is not going to happen.
Edit: If you ever want to talk about this, like adults - shoot me a PM.
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 19, 2010 19:59:15 GMT -5
CM....you said Velvet and Angelina are superior to LayCool.......;D +1
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Post by King Silva on Jul 19, 2010 22:10:29 GMT -5
That's cool.
He worked very hard so he does deserve to be rewarded.
I want him to cash in some time down the road though.
A good build up is always good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 22:23:51 GMT -5
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 19, 2010 23:09:39 GMT -5
WOW, you sure are stuck on poking fun at McCool, and are awfully hung up on her relationship with Taker. I can tell trying to have a decent debate with you, about this topic just is not going to happen. Edit: If you ever want to talk about this, like adults - shoot me a PM. No need to shoot you a PM. I'm cool with just dropping it at this point. You think I am blinded in hate and I think you are blinded in love. Clearly, neither one of us is going to budge on it. And I love to have discussion about differing opinions, but some of the stuff I read from you on this topic makes me bang my head into my desk. CM....you said Velvet and Angelina are superior to LayCool.......;D +1 Of course they are. They had and possibly will once again, an original fantastic heel gimmick. Even Madison and Velvet's version was good as well. TBP is like Mountain Dew. The power brand. The most recognized and tastes so much better. Laycool is more like Mountain Lightning from Walmart. Sort of similar, but the taste isnt very good and you know its watered down.  |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 23:16:50 GMT -5
WOW, you sure are stuck on poking fun at McCool, and are awfully hung up on her relationship with Taker. I can tell trying to have a decent debate with you, about this topic just is not going to happen. Edit: If you ever want to talk about this, like adults - shoot me a PM. No need to shoot you a PM. I'm cool with just dropping it at this point. You think I am blinded in hate and I think you are blinded in love. Clearly, neither one of us is going to budge on it. And I love to have discussion about differing opinions, but some of the stuff I read from you on this topic makes me bang my head into my desk. Well, slam your head in a wall, or a desk all you want. I'd rather see McCool tear up someone's leg for 12 minutes, than watch a Velvet Sky match for 5. It's no secret I think McCool is a babe, but I like her as much as much as I do for the exact same reason I like the Miz - they both came in as nothing, and I've watched them grow into damn talented stars. Nothing more, nothing less. I think Michelle is capable of putting on great matches when she is allotted the time to do it. I'd have taken you more seriously if your posts weren't full of stupid junior high jokes and bashing. Again, there are very, very noticeable differences between LayCool and TBP, why people like you harp on the similarities and scream from the mountain tops they just have to be a Beautiful People knock off, well I just don't know. Besides, that logic says TBP are a PMS knock off, and so were Vince's Devils. But hey, whatever. |
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 19, 2010 23:20:29 GMT -5
No need to shoot you a PM. I'm cool with just dropping it at this point. You think I am blinded in hate and I think you are blinded in love. Clearly, neither one of us is going to budge on it. And I love to have discussion about differing opinions, but some of the stuff I read from you on this topic makes me bang my head into my desk. Well, slam your head in a wall, or a desk all you want. I'd rather see McCool tear up someone's leg for 12 minutes, than watch a Velvet Sky match for 5. It's no secret I think McCool is a babe, but I like her as much as much as I do for the exact same reason I like the Miz - they both came in as nothing, and I've watched them grow into damn talented stars. Nothing more, nothing less. I think Michelle is capable of putting on great matches when she is allotted the time to do it. I'd have taken you more seriously if your posts weren't full of stupid junior high jokes and bashing. Again, there are very, very noticeable differences between LayCool and TBP, why people like you harp on the similarities and scream from the mountain tops they just have to be a Beautiful People knock off, well I just don't know. Besides, that logic says TBP are a PMS knock off, and so were Vince's Devils. But hey, whatever. you and me both but I also thought Maria was one of the hottest things to ever step foot into WWE yet I was the first to admit she was garbage in the ring. Michelle on the other hand I find very good in the ring. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 23:22:09 GMT -5
^^^Precisely my friend, physical attraction doesn't mean I'll think a woman is good in the ring when I know she is awful.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 19, 2010 23:22:46 GMT -5
No need to shoot you a PM. I'm cool with just dropping it at this point. You think I am blinded in hate and I think you are blinded in love. Clearly, neither one of us is going to budge on it. And I love to have discussion about differing opinions, but some of the stuff I read from you on this topic makes me bang my head into my desk. Well, slam your head in a wall, or a desk all you want. I'd rather see McCool tear up someone's leg for 12 minutes, than watch a Velvet Sky match for 5. It's no secret I think McCool is a babe, but I like her as much as much as I do for the exact same reason I like the Miz - they both came in as nothing, and I've watched them grow into damn talented stars. Nothing more, nothing less. I think Michelle is capable of putting on great matches when she is allotted the time to do it. I'd have taken you more seriously if your posts weren't full of stupid junior high jokes and bashing. Again, there are very, very noticeable differences between LayCool and TBP, why people like you harp on the similarities and scream from the mountain tops they just have to be a Beautiful People knock off, well I just don't know. Besides, that logic says TBP are a PMS knock off, and so were Vince's Devils. But hey, whatever. Like I said....we dont see eye to eye and I dont care to debate it. BUT.....I would like to know how TBP is like PMS or Vince's Devils? Outside of them all being girl factions, I dont see it. |
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Post by HugoOne on Jul 19, 2010 23:25:39 GMT -5
so glad the usual trolls have managed to derail the discussion at hand with superstar bashing Awesome. I CAME TO TROLL. Seriously though, the Miz is gold. I'm with everyone else on the fact that I ABHORRED the Miz when he came in. Such a waste of space. But I freely eat my words and say that the Miz won me over. Around Survivor Series 2007, when he started teaming with Morrison and feuding over the ECW belt with Punk, he really grew on me. And it took off from there. |
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Post by perfectplex on Jul 19, 2010 23:28:54 GMT -5
It would be foolish to think that The Miz hasn't grown as a star over the past couple years, or does not possess the mic skills and in ring ability to take it to the next level. He's done a great job so far during this current run. I've seen a lot of superstars come and go over the years and he definitely has the it factor.
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