StingerSplash
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Post by StingerSplash on Jul 19, 2010 16:21:12 GMT -5
I'm so pumped that the Miz is Miz-ter Money In The Bank! It's just...wait for it...awesome.  |
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 19, 2010 16:24:00 GMT -5
Bandwagon for the miz? So we can't like a superstar who has improved leaps and bounds from what he used to be and is within a year of getting his shot at the big time haha thats WF logic at its best. Just like the idiot indie music kids who shun a band once they get a major record deal. doesn't make any sense to me. |
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Post by J12 on Jul 19, 2010 16:25:49 GMT -5
It's true, The Miz does an unbelievable amount of press for the company and it's no secret that he's incredibly dedicated.
I can't wait to see him in the main event scene. He's incredibly talented, an unbelievably hard workers, and he earned his spot. He may have gotten on the roster based on his semi-celebrity status, but he's made no mistake that he's as serious and dedicated as they come since then.
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Post by King of Kings on Jul 19, 2010 16:28:38 GMT -5
The Miz has been everywhere representing WWE in the media with Eve. Since Eve is one of the top diva contenders, it's no doubt that McMahon sees Miz up there with Cena. I used to HATE The Miz, but ever since he left that stupid gimmick he had on Smackdown (the shorts, the durby, the crappy music) he's become a huge player on RAW.
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 19, 2010 16:38:17 GMT -5
CM I fail to see how Michelle's ring work is awful, but we can just agree to disagree. If you were entertained by Alicia's match last night we obviously don't look for the same thing in workers. I am always open for discussion. I'm sure I cant change your POV and I know you cant change mine on McCool. But would love to know how you think she is a good worker. For me, she doesnt sell well, bumps poorly, has a poor timing in the ring and is more of an annoyance than a true heel. Her gimmick is an entire ripoff of TBP and I swear, I think she watches TNA purely to gather things for her to use in the ring and call them her own, IE her gimmick and her finisher. I don't want to hijack the thread and derail it, but this is ridiculous. Michelle CAN sell, she bumps just fine, has impeccable tiing with working with some who is decent - see matches with Victoria, Melina, Beth, and Gail for examples. Her gimmick is FAR from a ripoff of TBP, those girls use their sex appeal combined with being "BFF's" and "mean girls" for their gimmick. Guess what? It's entirely feasible that two women in another wrestling company can do a "BFF" gimmick and be mean and nasty by picking on other women, and it not be a ripoff of something TNA is doing. When McCool and Layla start slutting it up on television, and totally forget how to wrestle, please let me know. McCool is considered to be one of the most improved people in the WWE, not by me alone, but by a lot of publications as well. Maria put her over in her youshoot interview saying that Michelle is one of the most dedicated people in the company PERIOD, and that is why she has her spot. She trains all the time, and is always willing to learn new things (which she shows a lot of in her matches). Aside from all of that, she can go on the mat, knows in ring psychology, and can actually tell a story. I don't know what it is you have against her, but it isn't her in ring ability. I personally think whatever it is, just keeps you from being able to watch her with an open mind. ---And AJ Styles said he is flattered that Michelle uses the Styles Clash and doesn't mind at all. So why should you care? |
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vivalaraza1331
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Post by vivalaraza1331 on Jul 19, 2010 16:47:27 GMT -5
Miz definitely deserves every bit of his push. He's worked very hard from his days with script lines taped to his watch so he wouldn't forget up to last night's Money in the Bank match. He's also someone the 18-35 demo can get behind. I approve. It's refreshing to hear McMahon wants to push a guy who works hard and DOESN'T have muscles like a Greek god.
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beefpuppet
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Post by beefpuppet on Jul 19, 2010 17:14:11 GMT -5
i gotta admit, i HATED the miz the first few months of his career. over the past year, he has show tremendous growth in the ring and on the mic. he has proven to be one of a few guys who have truly have the "it" factor. Last night was full of good surprises, topped off by two very deserving and dedicated guys being given a top honor.
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Post by MacReady on Jul 19, 2010 17:24:28 GMT -5
Loved Miz back on the Real World/ Road Rules challenges.
Hated him when he first debuted.
Started to like him again after he split from JoMo.
And then once he came back with the new trunks I have not missed a segment or match of his, he truely is AWESOME and I'm glad it's finally his time to shine!
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jul 19, 2010 17:27:32 GMT -5
I am not on The Miz bandwagon. More room for the rest of you, I guess. Kim  |
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Post by DMO™ on Jul 19, 2010 17:30:19 GMT -5
 YEAH THE MIZ<3 |
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 19, 2010 17:45:54 GMT -5
I like The Miz alright. He's a great vocalizer and decent enough in the ring to entertain. The thing to keep in mind with a lot of these young guys is that most of them haven't even come close to reaching their peaks yet. It's usually not until guys hit their 30's when they reach taht level and in that period is when their psychology meets up with their athleticism to become that complete performer.
The Miz was a little late to the game, he didn't beneifit from growing up in the business working under a lot of past talents to be that well rounded wrestler he and we would like him to be, but he appeasr to be a quick learner and is willing to continue to work on skill set that's an awesome asset to have.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jul 19, 2010 17:55:06 GMT -5
I am always open for discussion. I'm sure I cant change your POV and I know you cant change mine on McCool. But would love to know how you think she is a good worker. For me, she doesnt sell well, bumps poorly, has a poor timing in the ring and is more of an annoyance than a true heel. Her gimmick is an entire ripoff of TBP and I swear, I think she watches TNA purely to gather things for her to use in the ring and call them her own, IE her gimmick and her finisher. I don't want to hijack the thread and derail it, but this is ridiculous. Michelle CAN sell, she bumps just fine, has impeccable tiing with working with some who is decent - see matches with Victoria, Melina, Beth, and Gail for examples. Her gimmick is FAR from a ripoff of TBP, those girls use their sex appeal combined with being "BFF's" and "mean girls" for their gimmick. Guess what? It's entirely feasible that two women in another wrestling company can do a "BFF" gimmick and be mean and nasty by picking on other women, and it not be a ripoff of something TNA is doing. When McCool and Layla start slutting it up on television, and totally forget how to wrestle, please let me know. McCool is considered to be one of the most improved people in the WWE, not by me alone, but by a lot of publications as well. Maria put her over in her youshoot interview saying that Michelle is one of the most dedicated people in the company PERIOD, and that is why she has her spot. She trains all the time, and is always willing to learn new things (which she shows a lot of in her matches). Aside from all of that, she can go on the mat, knows in ring psychology, and can actually tell a story. I don't know what it is you have against her, but it isn't her in ring ability. I personally think whatever it is, just keeps you from being able to watch her with an open mind. ---And AJ Styles said he is flattered that Michelle uses the Styles Clash and doesn't mind at all. So why should you care? She also used daniels angel wings, angles ankle lock, and a few other tna stars finnishers. The fact that she is a ditzy blonde charachter who hangs with her BFF and makes fun of other girls looks is all things tbp use. They are like velvet and madison when angelina was still in the group. |
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Post by DMO™ on Jul 19, 2010 18:00:20 GMT -5
I don't want to hijack the thread and derail it, but this is ridiculous. Michelle CAN sell, she bumps just fine, has impeccable tiing with working with some who is decent - see matches with Victoria, Melina, Beth, and Gail for examples. Her gimmick is FAR from a ripoff of TBP, those girls use their sex appeal combined with being "BFF's" and "mean girls" for their gimmick. Guess what? It's entirely feasible that two women in another wrestling company can do a "BFF" gimmick and be mean and nasty by picking on other women, and it not be a ripoff of something TNA is doing. When McCool and Layla start slutting it up on television, and totally forget how to wrestle, please let me know. McCool is considered to be one of the most improved people in the WWE, not by me alone, but by a lot of publications as well. Maria put her over in her youshoot interview saying that Michelle is one of the most dedicated people in the company PERIOD, and that is why she has her spot. She trains all the time, and is always willing to learn new things (which she shows a lot of in her matches). Aside from all of that, she can go on the mat, knows in ring psychology, and can actually tell a story. I don't know what it is you have against her, but it isn't her in ring ability. I personally think whatever it is, just keeps you from being able to watch her with an open mind. ---And AJ Styles said he is flattered that Michelle uses the Styles Clash and doesn't mind at all. So why should you care? She also used daniels angel wings, angles ankle lock, and a few other tna stars finnishers. The fact that she is a ditzy blonde charachter who hangs with her BFF and makes fun of other girls looks is all things tbp use. They are like velvet and madison when angelina was still in the group. I think there is a difference between an ankle lock and a brazilian heel lock( I think that's what it's called)  |
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Post by jfinnomore on Jul 19, 2010 18:01:27 GMT -5
I don't want to hijack the thread and derail it, but this is ridiculous. Michelle CAN sell, she bumps just fine, has impeccable tiing with working with some who is decent - see matches with Victoria, Melina, Beth, and Gail for examples. Her gimmick is FAR from a ripoff of TBP, those girls use their sex appeal combined with being "BFF's" and "mean girls" for their gimmick. Guess what? It's entirely feasible that two women in another wrestling company can do a "BFF" gimmick and be mean and nasty by picking on other women, and it not be a ripoff of something TNA is doing. When McCool and Layla start slutting it up on television, and totally forget how to wrestle, please let me know. McCool is considered to be one of the most improved people in the WWE, not by me alone, but by a lot of publications as well. Maria put her over in her youshoot interview saying that Michelle is one of the most dedicated people in the company PERIOD, and that is why she has her spot. She trains all the time, and is always willing to learn new things (which she shows a lot of in her matches). Aside from all of that, she can go on the mat, knows in ring psychology, and can actually tell a story. I don't know what it is you have against her, but it isn't her in ring ability. I personally think whatever it is, just keeps you from being able to watch her with an open mind. ---And AJ Styles said he is flattered that Michelle uses the Styles Clash and doesn't mind at all. So why should you care? She also used daniels angel wings, angles ankle lock, and a few other tna stars finnishers. The fact that she is a ditzy blonde charachter who hangs with her BFF and makes fun of other girls looks is all things tbp use. They are like velvet and madison when angelina was still in the group. and Angle stole that from Shamrock. . . |
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eenyc21
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Post by eenyc21 on Jul 19, 2010 18:18:36 GMT -5
Proof positive that McMahon is completely delusional. Credit to the Miz for working hard, making strides in the ring to be the best he can be and taking on all the outside responsibility with media work, etc. He's got the right attitude. HOWEVER, still does not change the fact that Miz is but a curtain jerker worker. While he has made improvements, he still doesnt have a good or even average work rate. Yes, he can be entertaining at times.....Miz continues to be nothing more than a guy who should be in FCW for improvement more so than on Raw as US champion. Its a joke that he won money in the bank. I'm all for rewarding hard workers, but I'm certainly not going to make my product suffer for that reason. Agreed 100%. |
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jul 19, 2010 18:25:39 GMT -5
If Miz really becomes the future of RAW, I guess I'll stop watching RAW.
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Post by laythvandam on Jul 19, 2010 18:27:17 GMT -5
Well deserved for Miz, but he needs to drop the US title first.
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Post by BigShab421 on Jul 19, 2010 18:30:36 GMT -5
I became a pretty big Miz fan, so I'm glad to hear this.
The dude has work his ass off since he joined the company, and it's easy to see the dramatic improvement he's accomplished.
This is great to hear.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 19, 2010 18:35:47 GMT -5
If The Miz is "The future of Raw", then the future doesn't look too bright, in my opinion. I don't care how good he is now, he's still the idiot that flubbed his lines during the Diva search. He's ing annoying too. |
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Jul 19, 2010 18:59:52 GMT -5
i HATED the miz when he first started out in the wwe,i looked at him as a a reality show douche bag who was just going to try something new.He def has improved ans continues to improve.
He has proven hmself to be a hard worker and i guess it shows.
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