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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 20, 2010 4:06:43 GMT -5
Bandwagon for the miz? So we can't like a superstar who has improved leaps and bounds from what he used to be and is within a year of getting his shot at the big time This is WFigs, you must be a fan fo a wrestler ever since they debuted. Like me, I compeletly hated the miz when he first debuted, became a fan of him during his run with John Morrison, and have been a fan ever since. It's like saying you jumped on the Kane bandwagon because you weren't a fan of him as Isaac Yankem. lol. |
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Post by hurrimark on Jul 20, 2010 9:54:07 GMT -5
But he sucks in the ring..... obviously that doesn't matter anymore.
I also hear he's not well liked backstage (whether it's true or not, I don't know).
I don't know why everyone bums the Miz because morrisons far better as an overall package.
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Post by hurrimark on Jul 20, 2010 9:59:28 GMT -5
Well deserved for Miz, but he needs to drop the US title first. This. |
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Post by wwfalex04: OUC? on Jul 20, 2010 10:16:08 GMT -5
Proof positive that McMahon is completely delusional.  Credit to the Miz for working hard, making strides in the ring to be the best he can be and taking on all the outside responsibility with media work, etc. He's got the right attitude. HOWEVER, still does not change the fact that Miz is but a curtain jerker worker. While he has made improvements, he still doesnt have a good or even average work rate. Yes, he can be entertaining at times.....Miz continues to be nothing more than a guy who should be in FCW for improvement more so than on Raw as US champion. Its a joke that he won money in the bank. I'm all for rewarding hard workers, but I'm certainly not going to make my product suffer for that reason. I just have one thing to say to you: The WWE Universe has transitioned from saying "I'm Awful" when The Miz is about to say his catchphrase to "I'm Awesome". Also note that the positive reaction The Miz is garnering, just look at Money In The Bank as an example. The crowd was hot and loving The Miz taking down the briefcase. He's no curtain jerker by far. The product is not suffering from The Miz being bestowed a golden ticketed briefcase. On the contrary, he's adding value to the product as being one of the marquee guys the WWE uses to promote the business. The Miz's in-ring work is getting better, and you cannot deny that. He's learning how to tell a story with guys that know how to work. He can only get better working with the likes of Triple H and Randy Orton when he gets to that level. Everyone kept saying Edge is not a believable contender, now he's a 9 time World Champion. The Miz is the future.... deal with it. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 20, 2010 10:27:49 GMT -5
Proof positive that McMahon is completely delusional. Credit to the Miz for working hard, making strides in the ring to be the best he can be and taking on all the outside responsibility with media work, etc. He's got the right attitude. HOWEVER, still does not change the fact that Miz is but a curtain jerker worker. While he has made improvements, he still doesnt have a good or even average work rate. Yes, he can be entertaining at times.....Miz continues to be nothing more than a guy who should be in FCW for improvement more so than on Raw as US champion. Its a joke that he won money in the bank. I'm all for rewarding hard workers, but I'm certainly not going to make my product suffer for that reason. I just have one thing to say to you: The WWE Universe has transitioned from saying "I'm Awful" when The Miz is about to say his catchphrase to "I'm Awesome". Also note that the positive reaction The Miz is garnering, just look at Money In The Bank as an example. The crowd was hot and loving The Miz taking down the briefcase. He's no curtain jerker by far. The product is not suffering from The Miz being bestowed a golden ticketed briefcase. On the contrary, he's adding value to the product as being one of the marquee guys the WWE uses to promote the business. The Miz's in-ring work is getting better, and you cannot deny that. He's learning how to tell a story with guys that know how to work. He can only get better working with the likes of Triple H and Randy Orton when he gets to that level. Everyone kept saying Edge is not a believable contender, now he's a 9 time World Champion. The Miz is the future.... deal with it. I don't know if I have ever read a more well written post on this forum in all of my time here. VERY well said. |
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Post by hurrimark on Jul 20, 2010 10:44:10 GMT -5
Proof positive that McMahon is completely delusional. Credit to the Miz for working hard, making strides in the ring to be the best he can be and taking on all the outside responsibility with media work, etc. He's got the right attitude. HOWEVER, still does not change the fact that Miz is but a curtain jerker worker. While he has made improvements, he still doesnt have a good or even average work rate. Yes, he can be entertaining at times.....Miz continues to be nothing more than a guy who should be in FCW for improvement more so than on Raw as US champion. Its a joke that he won money in the bank. I'm all for rewarding hard workers, but I'm certainly not going to make my product suffer for that reason. The crowd was hot and loving The Miz taking down the briefcase. . Obviously I was watching a different event. The crowd were clearing booing and not because Miz is a heel. Quite simply they know he's not good enough yet and was one of, if not the least deserving in the whole match to get the briefcase. When he did nothing in MITB when everyone else did something, was when it was clear Miz would be victorious. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 20, 2010 11:58:28 GMT -5
But he sucks in the ring..... obviously that doesn't matter anymore. I also hear he's not well liked backstage (whether it's true or not, I don't know). I don't know why everyone bums the Miz because morrisons far better as an overall package. Well, Morrison sucks on the mic. Morrison can't touch Miz, when it comes to mic-skill, charisma and getting over with the fans - so no, he's not a better package at all. All Morrison has to offer is his flippy moves and a nice physique - and that's all he'll ever have to offer, quite frankly. |
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Post by hurrimark on Jul 20, 2010 12:03:36 GMT -5
But he sucks in the ring..... obviously that doesn't matter anymore. I also hear he's not well liked backstage (whether it's true or not, I don't know). I don't know why everyone bums the Miz because morrisons far better as an overall package. Morrison can't touch Miz, when it comes to mic-skill, charisma and getting over with the fans - so no, he's not a better package at all. All Morrison has to offer is his flippy moves and a nice physique. First off Morrison does have charisma and mic skills as shown when him and Miz were together. Morrison the majority of the time performed better in their joint segments imo. He is FAR superior in the ring. Has the look too, Miz doesn't. In regards to getting over with the fans, the only reason Miz has head way in that department is because of his gimmick and we all know it's alot easier to get over as a heel these days. Morrison as a heel was over, i'd like to see miz be as over as a face because he wouldn't, cos he can't pull it off. Morrison is superior to the Miz in almost every way, miz has slightly more charisma granted, but not by a long shot. Miz joins the list of vastly over-rated current wwe superstars alongside the likes of Sheamus,drew,ted and all of Nexus besides Wade. |
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Jul 20, 2010 12:05:48 GMT -5
Very happy for The Miz, he deserves this.
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Post by kidanimation09 on Jul 20, 2010 12:12:02 GMT -5
He's finally right lol.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 20, 2010 12:39:51 GMT -5
Morrison can't touch Miz, when it comes to mic-skill, charisma and getting over with the fans - so no, he's not a better package at all. All Morrison has to offer is his flippy moves and a nice physique. First off Morrison does have charisma and mic skills as shown when him and Miz were together. Morrison the majority of the time performed better in their joint segments imo. He is FAR superior in the ring. Has the look too, Miz doesn't. In regards to getting over with the fans, the only reason Miz has head way in that department is because of his gimmick and we all know it's alot easier to get over as a heel these days. Morrison as a heel was over, i'd like to see miz be as over as a face because he wouldn't, cos he can't pull it off. Morrison is superior to the Miz in almost every way, miz has slightly more charisma granted, but not by a long shot. Miz joins the list of vastly over-rated current wwe superstars alongside the likes of Sheamus,drew,ted and all of Nexus besides Wade. Nobody gave a crap about Morrison when he was a heel - it was the Miz who got the crowd reactions... Morrison simply piggy-backed off the heat Miz generated. |
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Post by hurrimark on Jul 20, 2010 12:52:43 GMT -5
First off Morrison does have charisma and mic skills as shown when him and Miz were together. Morrison the majority of the time performed better in their joint segments imo. He is FAR superior in the ring. Has the look too, Miz doesn't. In regards to getting over with the fans, the only reason Miz has head way in that department is because of his gimmick and we all know it's alot easier to get over as a heel these days. Morrison as a heel was over, i'd like to see miz be as over as a face because he wouldn't, cos he can't pull it off. Morrison is superior to the Miz in almost every way, miz has slightly more charisma granted, but not by a long shot. Miz joins the list of vastly over-rated current wwe superstars alongside the likes of Sheamus,drew,ted and all of Nexus besides Wade. Nobody gave a crap about Morrison when he was a heel - it was the Miz who got the crowd reactions... Morrison simply piggy-backed off the heat Miz generated. Right, so morrison never got heat and can't generate heat like the miz This says otherwise: |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jul 20, 2010 13:18:18 GMT -5
Nobody gave a crap about Morrison when he was a heel - it was the Miz who got the crowd reactions... Morrison simply piggy-backed off the heat Miz generated. Right, so morrison never got heat and can't generate heat like the miz This says otherwise: ...that was three years ago, and painful to watch. |
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 20, 2010 13:43:18 GMT -5
Morrison has mic skills? lol after 60+ eps of his boring monotone voice on the dirt sheet
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Post by White Trash Lucha on Jul 20, 2010 13:44:56 GMT -5
Proof positive that McMahon is completely delusional. Credit to the Miz for working hard, making strides in the ring to be the best he can be and taking on all the outside responsibility with media work, etc. He's got the right attitude. HOWEVER, still does not change the fact that Miz is but a curtain jerker worker. While he has made improvements, he still doesnt have a good or even average work rate. Yes, he can be entertaining at times.....Miz continues to be nothing more than a guy who should be in FCW for improvement more so than on Raw as US champion. Its a joke that he won money in the bank. I'm all for rewarding hard workers, but I'm certainly not going to make my product suffer for that reason. I just have one thing to say to you: The WWE Universe has transitioned from saying "I'm Awful" when The Miz is about to say his catchphrase to "I'm Awesome". Also note that the positive reaction The Miz is garnering, just look at Money In The Bank as an example. The crowd was hot and loving The Miz taking down the briefcase. He's no curtain jerker by far. The product is not suffering from The Miz being bestowed a golden ticketed briefcase. On the contrary, he's adding value to the product as being one of the marquee guys the WWE uses to promote the business. The Miz's in-ring work is getting better, and you cannot deny that. He's learning how to tell a story with guys that know how to work. He can only get better working with the likes of Triple H and Randy Orton when he gets to that level. Everyone kept saying Edge is not a believable contender, now he's a 9 time World Champion. The Miz is the future.... deal with it. 100% agreed, Well Said. |
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 20, 2010 13:49:10 GMT -5
Miz haters saying he can't work and gets X-Pac heat are simply delusional and that's the biggest thing I hate about smart marks. You don't have to like everybody but, for the most part, talent and reaction are obvious and a guy either has it or doesn't. Miz clearly does.
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 20, 2010 13:54:21 GMT -5
The only thing that matters here is Vince McMahon thinks he is the future of raw. so miz pretty much will be the future of raw unless he gets injured *touch wood*
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Post by Sami Hazard on Jul 20, 2010 13:58:21 GMT -5
I remember when this guy was the Ryan Seacrest of Smackdown, never did I ever think he could be a WWE Champion, but ever since se switched to trunks, he looks like a believable champion.
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 20, 2010 14:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by J12 on Jul 20, 2010 14:39:54 GMT -5
I notice a lot of Miz/Morrison comparison here, which is to be expected.
I'm a huge fan of John Morrison, in fact, for a long time, I liked him better than The Miz, but unfortunately, Morrison is plagued by a generic gimmick and sub-par mic skills.
Given some time, Morrison will get better on the mic, and then, I would most definitely consider him a total package. His promos are almost painful to listen to, you can tell he struggles, which sucks, because he's incredibly talented.
The Miz, on the other hand, may not be quite as refined in the ring as Morrison, but he's got the charisma down to a science. WWE will ALWAYS go with the guy that can wrestle fairly well AND talk over the guy that can really wrestle but struggles through a promo.
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