dgnr8
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Post by dgnr8 on Dec 12, 2010 20:37:01 GMT -5
In the spirit of keeping this thread alive, I've got a good one for you:
What was your favorite NON-BCA line during the post-Hasbro/BCA era? This would include, but may not be limited to:
- Thumb Wrestlers
- Mini ring & figure sets
- Bendem's
- Mini Bendem's & ring sets
- Maximum Sweat
- Camo Carnage
- Ripped & Ruthless/WWF Legends
- Bone Crunchin' Buddies
- Back Talkin' Crushers
(Non Jakks)
- Heroes Of Wrestling
- Ringmasters/Grudgematch sets
I loved them all. Simple as that... though the Back Talkin' Crushers always seemed somewhat pointless to me.
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Post by fallbrawl on Dec 13, 2010 12:14:12 GMT -5
Camo Carnage was my favorite.I used the Austin and Triple H whenever i could in my fig fed.Did anyone on here ever have the X-Pac i never could find him?
I never really cared for the Maximum Sweat line.I used them as part of the entrance way for a few ppvs.
I also like the mini ring sets.I remember using the King of the ring playset alot. Vader was my favorite figure to come from that line.
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champofakind
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Post by champofakind on Dec 13, 2010 14:37:17 GMT -5
Probably between bone crunching buddies or the mini rings and figures. Can't decide which I liked more.
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Post by slappy on Dec 13, 2010 14:44:56 GMT -5
 That would be the other Triple H I mentioned, but I've only seen it listed on eBay one or two times so I'm not 100% sure if it's an additional Backlash release or just a reseal. I'd say it's real since Jakks also re-released it in Special Edition Series 6, as seen below.  Remember, both Special Edition and Backlash lines were exclusive to KB Toys stores. Oh, and both series (SE 6, Backlash 1) were available in the year 2000 when the BCA line was, well, on life support. It is real, I have that HHH and I remember the Backlash packaging. |
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Post by Chicago on Dec 13, 2010 18:10:38 GMT -5
In the spirit of keeping this thread alive, I've got a good one for you: What was your favorite NON-BCA line during the post-Hasbro/BCA era? This would include, but may not be limited to: - Thumb Wrestlers - Mini ring & figure sets - Bendem's - Mini Bendem's & ring sets - Maximum Sweat - Camo Carnage - Ripped & Ruthless/WWF Legends - Bone Crunchin' Buddies - Back Talkin' Crushers (Non Jakks) - Heroes Of Wrestling - Ringmasters/Grudgematch sets I loved them all. Simple as that... though the Back Talkin' Crushers always seemed somewhat pointless to me. Definitely the Mini Rings figures. I had most of those sets and ended up selling 20 or so of the figures on eBay a few years back. I want to build a collection up again, but I've had a tough time finding good deals. The original WrestleMania 6-pack was my favorite of the bunch, and I always wished that Jakks had made the miniature Chainsaw Charlie in BCA form.  I liked the Thumb Wrestlers series, too, but it's unfortunate that the Series 2 prototypes made it all the way to the Toy Fair '98 showroom and were cancelled. Third favorite would probably be the Ring Masters/Grudge Match figures since they look great on display with their stands/rings. However, let's try to keep the focus on the BCA line as best as we can.  |
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Post by benjamin on Dec 13, 2010 20:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by Captain McKay on Dec 13, 2010 22:08:24 GMT -5
Pretty sure you need to have 50 posts in order to put something like this up on the forums, and then it'd go in classifieds. HOWEVER, in certain circumstances, if you're selling a Superstars 2 Bret Hart in good condition (pink top, black bottom), and you PM me about it, I'm sure the powers-that-be will let it slide. |
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Post by benjamin on Dec 13, 2010 22:16:17 GMT -5
lol, I will be PMing you now.
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Post by WCWA Online on Dec 14, 2010 11:00:36 GMT -5
was there ever any chance an El Hijo Del Santo BCA could have been made? He was pretty much the anchor of WWF Super Astros, and anyone who questions his marketability is a damn fool. He'd sell well to kids who just want a guy in a mask. He'd sell well to smarks who are marking out for El Hijo Del Santo. If it was a short run US figure and an over run Mexican figure, they wouldn't have been able to make enough of him. Considering it would be an easy repaint of the Blue Blazer/Patriot head, generic torso and legs, it seems like they could have had it ready before he even debuted. Definitely could have been released in an early 1999 wave.
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Post by Captain McKay on Dec 14, 2010 11:17:33 GMT -5
^ I've never heard of him, nor have I seen Super Astros, but I'm sure if you're right then it could have made a decent selling figure.
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Post by WCWA Online on Dec 14, 2010 11:22:42 GMT -5
^ I've never heard of him, nor have I seen Super Astros, but I'm sure if you're right then it could have made a decent selling figure. Probably the most popular Mexican wrestler of all time. was under a WWF deal at the end of 98 to early 99 to promote and compete on Super Astros, their half hour show on Univision. Featured a lot of Cruiserweights, mostly legitimate Mexican wrestlers with the usual cast of WWF guys mixed in (Kaientai, Too Much, The Hardys). It was on this show that Essa Rios/Papi Chulo got recognized and "got his deal". |
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Post by Captain McKay on Dec 14, 2010 12:47:39 GMT -5
Probably the most popular Mexican wrestler of all time. was under a WWF deal at the end of 98 to early 99 to promote and compete on Super Astros, their half hour show on Univision. Featured a lot of Cruiserweights, mostly legitimate Mexican wrestlers with the usual cast of WWF guys mixed in (Kaientai, Too Much, The Hardys). It was on this show that Essa Rios/Papi Chulo got recognized and "got his deal". Ahh, gotcha. So it was basically "Shotgun Saturday Night" with Mexican talent added... ...which brings me to BCAs - it kinda makes me wonder why they never got around to making Scott "Too Hot" Taylor. We had a Brian Christopher from a 2 Tuff pack. Who else from the Attitude era are you all surprised never got a figure? I was kind of surprised there never were Oddities figures. Golga was pretty popular at that point, as I recall. |
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Post by benjamin on Dec 14, 2010 13:13:48 GMT -5
Kurrgan got a figure and I thought there was a Golga prototype that never came to fruition. Bart Gunn didn't get a figure if I remember correct and I feel like he should have got one after the Brawl 4 All. I think the biggest exemption from the Jakks line was Jim Neidhart though.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 14, 2010 13:17:22 GMT -5
was there ever any chance an El Hijo Del Santo BCA could have been made? He was pretty much the anchor of WWF Super Astros, and anyone who questions his marketability is a damn fool. He'd sell well to kids who just want a guy in a mask. He'd sell well to smarks who are marking out for El Hijo Del Santo. If it was a short run US figure and an over run Mexican figure, they wouldn't have been able to make enough of him. Considering it would be an easy repaint of the Blue Blazer/Patriot head, generic torso and legs, it seems like they could have had it ready before he even debuted. Definitely could have been released in an early 1999 wave. There's always a chance, especially if the company prepares for it months in advance like they did with Paul Wight's debut Series 9 figure. And sure, the WWF wanted to compete with WCW's Cruiserweight division by appealing to the Hispanic population with the Spanish-only Super Astros program, so merchandise with Jakks' name on it promoting the show only could have meant good things for it. However, I'm not sure more than a few percent of the WWF's fanbase knew of the show or its Mexican talent, to be honest with you. That would spell disaster for a new series if Jakks were to invest the time and effort into making guys like Santo, Super Crazy (Loco) and others. All of the mask-loving kids and figure-collecting smarks of the world couldn't clean up that mess. I know I can speak from my own experiences that I've heard of Super Astros, but I never knew as a kid where to turn to watch it. Not that it matters anyway, since I probably would have tuned out because of the language barrier. I'm afraid the majority of kids then would feel the same way without Austin, Undertaker or any major WWF Superstar's name being attached to Super Astros. I'm sure you could make a case for anyone who was a part of the WWF roster in the late 90s, but the Mexican talent especially was nothing more than the WWF's half-assed attempt at competing with WCW and I doubt Jakks ever seriously considered tapping into that market. |
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Post by WCWA Online on Dec 14, 2010 13:24:16 GMT -5
I'm not saying a full series of Super Astros luchadors. But why not one per series in a series like Livewire?
I remember fondly watching Super Astros every Sunday at Noon on Univision. My cable or TV at the time maxed out at channel 44. Anything above 44 didn't come in, and was just the same channel as 44 over and over. Luckily, channel 44 was Univision.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 14, 2010 14:04:38 GMT -5
I implied a full series because one per series is not something Jakks was accustomed to in those days. They were more likely to release a full series since the Superstars figures were few and far between and everything else, for the most part, was repaints and re-releases.
Live Wire was a series of repaints and re-releases, not debut figures, so that wouldn't have been feasible.
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Post by WCWA Online on Dec 14, 2010 14:15:51 GMT -5
But let's say, El Hijo Del Santo as my #1 example.. his figure COULD have been a full repaint. Blue Blazer/Patriot head and random generic body painted white. I'll say the debut HHH body, because it's smallish and in tights, but literally any body would work.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 14, 2010 14:43:55 GMT -5
Kurrgan got a figure and I thought there was a Golga prototype that never came to fruition. Bart Gunn didn't get a figure if I remember correct and I feel like he should have got one after the Brawl 4 All. I think the biggest exemption from the Jakks line was Jim Neidhart though. I've never seen a Golga prototype, but an Oddities 4-pack was rumored for a while. Kaientai, too. Bart Gunn absolutely should have been made following his surprise Brawl 4 All victory, but I bet management was still seething over his knockout of Dr Death and wouldn't give the okay for a BCA figure. Other names, along with Neidhart and Taylor, to throw in the pot: --Furnas and LaFon --Fake Diesel and Fake Razor Ramon (Jakks did have the rights to the gimmicks, so...) --Chainsaw Charlie/Terry Funk --Los Boricuas sans Savio --Kaientai sans Taka --Sniper of the Truth Commission --Tiger Ali Singh and Babu --Light Heavyweight Division wrestlers (Mr. Aguila, Scott Putski, Great Sasuke, Pantera, etc) --Golga and The Giant Silva of the Oddities --Brak(k)us --The Iron Sheik (He managed The Sultan, too!) --Michael Cole, Kevin Kelly --ECW wrestlers who appeared on Raw in '97 (Rob Van Dam, Sabu, Taz, etc) --Juniors/Midget Division wrestlers (namely Max Mini) --The Quebecers --The Rock n Roll Express and others from the NWA, including Barry Windham (w/o the Blackjack gimmick) --Steven Regal --2 Cold Scorpio (different gimmick from Flash Funk) --The Acolytes (new gimmick for Bradshaw and Faarooq) --Mike Tyson and Don King --Pat Patterson and Gerald Brisco --Michael Hayes/Dok Hendrix --Mideon (new gimmick for Phineas/Dennis Knight) --Butterbean --Paul Ellering --Tori --Nicole Bass  --Ivory --Gillberg --The Hardy Boyz --The Blue Meanie --The Mean Street Posse (?) And there's probably more to add to that random list lol. |
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Post by Chicago on Dec 14, 2010 14:54:06 GMT -5
But let's say, El Hijo Del Santo as my #1 example.. his figure COULD have been a full repaint. Blue Blazer/Patriot head and random generic body painted white. I'll say the debut HHH body, because it's smallish and in tights, but literally any body would work. The Best of '98 Series 1 Skull figure would certainly agree with that, but I have never once come across anything that even hinted (not even falsely) at a figure of Santo or anyone from the Super Astros show to be made in BCA form. I'm not saying Jakks didn't consider it behind closed doors, but it never would have made it past discussions. Most of the Mexican talent was signed for, like, six months tops and they would have had a better chance if they lasted through the spring and summer of '99. |
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Post by Captain McKay on Dec 14, 2010 15:35:45 GMT -5
Those ECW guys may have technically been out of the question 'cause of them not being under WWF contract, same as Neidhart. But you raise a good point of Mideon and the Acolytes. Those would have been decent BCA sellers at that point, I think.
Fake Razor and Diesel would have been easy, simple repaints. Then just slap the new guys' photos on the card. But I guess there would have been some kind of discrepancy with Nash and Hall/WCW at the time? It seemed like kind of a no-brainer, although maybe WWF wasn't planning on having the stand-ins around for long.
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