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Post by Chicago on Jun 9, 2013 0:41:06 GMT -5
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 9, 2013 1:38:42 GMT -5
Damn, rikishi? I had no idea
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Post by UNK on Jun 9, 2013 12:26:55 GMT -5
A quick observation... The line-up would be as such (from left to right): Kama Mustafa ( 2 Tuff Series 2 re-release from October) "The Rock" Rocky Maivia ( Shotgun Saturday Night Series 1 re-release from April) D'Lo Brown ( 2 Tuff Series 2 re-release from October) Mark Henry ( Superstars Series 6 re-release from September) The reasoning for using the old Rocky Maivia sculpt is because the Fully Loaded Series 1/ 2 Tuff Series 3 Rock figure was not ready until the following year. The same goes for Mark Henry's Live Wire Series 2 repaint and the new sculpts for both D'Lo Brown and The Godfather (and to a lesser extent "Danger" Owen Hart). I believe it would have provided collectors the unique opportunity to pick up all four figures at once (as a Toys"R"Us exclusive), especially for those fans who may have missed out and were new to the line. Also, I think the BCA line needed some sort of filler in between the various incarnations of "The Nation" and its members. What do you guys think? Would you have bought it or passed on it at the time? How would it stack up to the original NOD boxed set? Obviously, I was going for a more realistic approach (new sculpts and repaints were the furthest thing from my mind), so I had to take into account Jakks' usual cost-cutting measures. I definitely would've bought it. I didn't watch at the Mason / Crush / Vega time so that gives me a definite preference between the two. But that aside, young me would've loved a fully playable Nation box set. My parents didn't like to go TOO nuts buying me figures (as far as tracking down store exclusives goes, forget about it) so the chance to have Kama, D-Lo, Rocky and Faarooq in one shot would've been great. Especially in lieu of unplayable figures like Vega and Mason. Mason ended up be my fed's commissioner so at least he wasn't wasted but Vega sat in a box and one day I took him out, accidentally dropped him on his head and the peg broke clean off the neck. I shrugged, superglued him and put him back in the box. The 2Tuff Kama & D-Lo team dominated my tag division. So on behalf of 11 year old me, yeah, I would've preferred the newer Nation. And these days I'd love to have a box set of the newer Nation MOC on display. Was it ever even discussed to your knowledge?
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Post by Chicago on Jun 9, 2013 13:54:40 GMT -5
I definitely would've bought it. I didn't watch at the Mason / Crush / Vega time so that gives me a definite preference between the two. But that aside, young me would've loved a fully playable Nation box set. My parents didn't like to go TOO nuts buying me figures (as far as tracking down store exclusives goes, forget about it) so the chance to have Kama, D-Lo, Rocky and Faarooq in one shot would've been great. Especially in lieu of unplayable figures like Vega and Mason. Mason ended up be my fed's commissioner so at least he wasn't wasted but Vega sat in a box and one day I took him out, accidentally dropped him on his head and the peg broke clean off the neck. I shrugged, superglued him and put him back in the box. The 2Tuff Kama & D-Lo team dominated my tag division. So on behalf of 11 year old me, yeah, I would've preferred the newer Nation. And these days I'd love to have a box set of the newer Nation MOC on display. Was it ever even discussed to your knowledge? No, not to my knowledge. Thanks for responding to my fantasy suggestion, by the way; I appreciate the feedback. The Nation (of Domination) saw so much turnover in those days that it would have been nearly impossible for Jakks to produce a timely boxed set that would appeal to the average consumer (mainly children and their parents). If any of the later incarnations would have lasted three to six months longer on WWF TV, then it might have been a possibility.
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Post by Chicago on Jun 15, 2013 11:23:49 GMT -5
they made all of DOA and NOD......why didn't they make Los Boriquas? [ From the Slammers Series 2 thread] Los Boricuas very well should have made an appearance in the BCA line, unless you count Savio Vega's Shotgun Series 1 repaint as a group representation. Savio's debut figure in Nation attire was released (in October '97) several months after both he and Crush were kicked out (in June '97) of the Nation of Domination. The Shotgun repaint didn't hit stores until April of 1998, which leads me to believe that the chances of a Los Boricuas stable being made in the BCA line were slim after the spring of '98. 2 Tuff Series 1 was released around that time and would have been the perfect venue for a Savio Vega/Miguel Perez 2-pack alongside DOA's first figures. Unfortunately for them, the line-up for 2 Tuff Series 1 was a hybrid of the previous Tag Team and Managers Series, and there wasn't room for Los Boricuas if there were existing plans to include two tag teams (DOA, Truth Commission) and two manager's sets (HHH/Chyna, Goldust/Marlena) in the first assortment. 2 Tuff Series 2 would arrive in the fall (October of '98), and by that time the group was a non-factor on WWF TV and may have even split entirely. I have heard rumors of a proposed Los Boricuas set (this was in November of '97), but there likely wasn't any truth to the rumors and it was all speculation. Jakks saw fit to produce all members of DOA and NOD, as you've mentioned, but likely skipped out on Los Boricuas due to mismanaged scheduling (timing is everything with this line, and I doubt they were ever even scheduled) and/or a general lack of interest (coming from the consumer's way, too). Developing new sculpts for all four members was not something I believe Jakks ever considered, and ultimately I think that was the hurdle that Los Boricuas would never overcome. If Savio, the leader of the group, couldn't get a second sculpt, the others had no chance at a first look. I definitely would've bought it. I didn't watch at the Mason / Crush / Vega time so that gives me a definite preference between the two. But that aside, young me would've loved a fully playable Nation box set. My parents didn't like to go TOO nuts buying me figures (as far as tracking down store exclusives goes, forget about it) so the chance to have Kama, D-Lo, Rocky and Faarooq in one shot would've been great. Especially in lieu of unplayable figures like Vega and Mason. Mason ended up be my fed's commissioner so at least he wasn't wasted but Vega sat in a box and one day I took him out, accidentally dropped him on his head and the peg broke clean off the neck. I shrugged, superglued him and put him back in the box. The 2Tuff Kama & D-Lo team dominated my tag division. So on behalf of 11 year old me, yeah, I would've preferred the newer Nation. And these days I'd love to have a box set of the newer Nation MOC on display. Was it ever even discussed to your knowledge? No, not to my knowledge. Thanks for responding to my fantasy suggestion, by the way; I appreciate the feedback. The Nation (of Domination) saw so much turnover in those days that it would have been nearly impossible for Jakks to produce a timely boxed set that would appeal to the average consumer (mainly children and their parents). If any of the later incarnations would have lasted three to six months longer on WWF TV, then it might have been a possibility. I wanted to update this post because I found a tidbit that I forgot I had on a proposed second Nation of Domination 4-pack. In January of 1998, Jakks was "definitely" considering a new set to be released in May or June of that year. The first Nation of Domination boxed set was released to Toys"R"Us stores in October '97, and rumor has it that it was produced in limited quantities with the intent to follow up on the changes made to the group in a second NOD set. It would have included Faarooq, Rocky Maivia, Kama Mustafa, and D'Lo Brown. Nothing more ever came of that rumor, but I would like to think there is some truth to it.
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Post by UNK on Jun 15, 2013 13:49:27 GMT -5
Chi is right about timing. Los Boricuas were all but off television (except to job) after Wrestlemania 14. The brand completely shifted its focus going into Brawl for All and Rocky's push and DX without HBK. The gang warfare stuff would've been the best (and in hindsight, only) time for any other Boricua representation. There were rising stars in early / mid-1998 that Jakks would have been crazy to skip in lieu of Boricuas. So yeah, timing. And thanks for the tidbit about the Nation. Something else out there to dream about, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2013 16:14:11 GMT -5
It's too bad Chainsaw Charlie never got made either.
I think an exclusive 2 pack of Chainsaw and Cactus would have been sweet. They did it with Bret/Owen and Razor/Diesel, they could have done it with Cactus and Chainsaw.
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Post by blu3blazer on Jun 16, 2013 20:37:32 GMT -5
I always found it odd that they made a mini-figure of Chainsaw Charlie, but not a BCA. Especially because pretty much all of the mini-figures were exact replications of BCA figures.
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 18, 2013 21:05:40 GMT -5
What were the most scalped BCA's
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Post by blu3blazer on Jun 18, 2013 22:27:08 GMT -5
What were the most scalped BCA's The Blue Blazer. That figure literally hit stores less than a month before he died. I had mine before.
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Post by Chicago on Jun 19, 2013 15:34:01 GMT -5
It's too bad Chainsaw Charlie never got made either. I think an exclusive 2 pack of Chainsaw and Cactus would have been sweet. They did it with Bret/Owen and Razor/Diesel, they could have done it with Cactus and Chainsaw. Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie were scheduled for a 2 Tuff Series 2 release in September/October 1998, but plans changed between late May and early July of that year leading to the Brian Christopher/Jerry Lawler replacement. It's been said that Cactus would have come with S.T.O.M.P. Series 1 Ahmed's club accessory wrapped in barbed wire. Obviously, this news came at a time when the details of the Triple Threat/"Faces of Foley" 3-pack were unknown and the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire had yet to debut alongside the BCA Cactus Jack figure. I think the prospects of an exclusive Foley set (having all three characters in one place was the perfect way to debut BCA Cactus), as well as the changes made to Foley and Funk's characters on TV, prevented Funk/Charlie from having a 6" figure made in the BCA line.
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Post by fallbrawl on Jun 20, 2013 16:46:27 GMT -5
I have been trying to set somethings up and get my old bca fig fed going again. I just bought a titan tron from a yard sale for $1.00 I just have to get a few more things setup and i will be ready to go.
I know this will sound weird but i always wanted a set of the nasty boys in bca form.
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Post by UNK on Jun 21, 2013 21:36:37 GMT -5
I would have LOVED a Cactus and Chainsaw 2Tuff. My most tried and failed and restarted custom of all is a BCA Chainsaw. Somedayyyyyyy.....
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Post by Chicago on Jun 21, 2013 22:27:10 GMT -5
You've got to love eBay.
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Post by blu3blazer on Jun 21, 2013 22:32:09 GMT -5
You've got to love eBay. Needs blinking red lights!
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Post by zappa2510 on Jun 24, 2013 16:38:56 GMT -5
hey all just wanted to let you all know that I just posted some of my extra bca figures for sale in the classifieds. they are loose but in good condition. hopefully someone here will take them off my hands. long live the bca figure!
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Post by Wicked on Jun 25, 2013 11:16:52 GMT -5
Double J, E, Double F, J, A, Double R, E, double T and buttercup the pony. GANGSTER!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 12:44:00 GMT -5
I don't see a lot of people talk about the Honkey Tonk Man when they mention there child hood federations. I was never able to find him when I was younger but considering he was a regular BCA figure, did anyone have him in their federations?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 13:04:53 GMT -5
Also for anyone starting up a BCA federation, the LOPW figures go really well with BCA's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2013 14:51:11 GMT -5
I loved the figures themselves but didn't care for the bone crunching action. I couldn't believe the first time I saw Razor and diesel in the toy aisle of my local AMES. I was floored ad immediately positioned myself to have my father purchase the whole set for ....Lots of chores were done lol
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