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Post by Kliquid on Aug 14, 2010 16:19:40 GMT -5
So in a 90 minute video, you believed like 3 minutes of it?
Thank god I didn't waste my time.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 17:12:22 GMT -5
So in a 90 minute video, you believed like 3 minutes of it? Thank god I didn't waste my time. Actually it was probably more like 10 minutes I believed, then another maybe 10-20 that made somewhat some sense.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 17:33:34 GMT -5
So your criteria for whether you believe something or not is that it makes sense? And you didn't answer my question. Is your criteria for whether you believe something or not is that it make sense?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 18:01:24 GMT -5
And you didn't answer my question. Is your criteria for whether you believe something or not is that it make sense? Uh................? If I'm going to believe something, I think It needs to make sense... Or else why would I just believe it.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 18:08:33 GMT -5
And you didn't answer my question. Is your criteria for whether you believe something or not is that it make sense? Uh................? If I'm going to believe something, I think It needs to make sense... Or else why would I just believe it. Quantum physics doesn't make sense to quantum physicists (or anyone else for that matter). Yet it's still true and they still believe it. The idea that you can have an effect before you have a cause makes no sense but it's been observed under controlled conditions many, many times. Whether something makes sense or not has nothing to do with whether it is true or not.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 18:17:57 GMT -5
Uh................? If I'm going to believe something, I think It needs to make sense... Or else why would I just believe it. Quantum physics doesn't make sense to quantum physicists (or anyone else for that matter). Yet it's still true and they still believe it. The idea that you can have an effect before you have a cause makes no sense but it's been observed under controlled conditions many, many times. Whether something makes sense or not has nothing to do with whether it is true or not.Exactly, having an effect before a cause makes no sense, yet people judge a video before watching it. You said Believe, not if it's true or not.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 18:38:50 GMT -5
Quantum physics doesn't make sense to quantum physicists (or anyone else for that matter). Yet it's still true and they still believe it. The idea that you can have an effect before you have a cause makes no sense but it's been observed under controlled conditions many, many times. Whether something makes sense or not has nothing to do with whether it is true or not.Exactly, having an effect before a cause makes no sense, yet people judge a video before watching it. You said Believe, not if it's true or not. Did you miss the part where I said I'd heard all that BS before. Do I have to watch every single video about how the Illuminati are wiping out musicians right and left to comment on the problems with the theory?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 18:42:14 GMT -5
Exactly, having an effect before a cause makes no sense, yet people judge a video before watching it. You said Believe, not if it's true or not. Did you miss the part where I said I'd heard all that BS before. Do I have to watch every single video about how the Illuminati are wiping out musicians right and left to comment on the problems with the theory? Yeah I must have missed that, because I don't see it anywhere.. & yes. You do.. because you have no clue what will be said in Part 6 or Part 7 that could have changed your opinion in Part 3 or 4. It's 100% Impossible to give a good honest opinion on something without knowing anything about what you're giving an opinion on, unless... You just want to give a dumb opinion, that pretty much won't matter.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 18:48:10 GMT -5
Did you miss the part where I said I'd heard all that BS before. Do I have to watch every single video about how the Illuminati are wiping out musicians right and left to comment on the problems with the theory? Yeah I must have missed that, because I don't see it anywhere.. & yes. You do.. because you have no clue what will be said in Part 6 or Part 7 that could have changed your opinion in Part 3 or 4. It's 100% Impossible to give a good honest opinion on something without knowing anything about what you're giving an opinion on, unless... You just want to give a dumb opinion, that pretty much won't matter. That is just ridiculous logic. If someone writes a book claiming the Holocaust never happened I would have to read the entire book before responding to any of the claims according to your logic. Doesn't matter that all the claims have been debunked before, you'd still have to read the whole book first?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 18:56:37 GMT -5
Yeah I must have missed that, because I don't see it anywhere.. & yes. You do.. because you have no clue what will be said in Part 6 or Part 7 that could have changed your opinion in Part 3 or 4. It's 100% Impossible to give a good honest opinion on something without knowing anything about what you're giving an opinion on, unless... You just want to give a dumb opinion, that pretty much won't matter. That is just ridiculous logic. If someone writes a book claiming the Holocaust never happened I would have to read the entire book before responding to any of the claims according to your logic. Doesn't matter that all the claims have been debunked before, you'd still have to read the whole book first? Your comparing past to a present. The video is something someone made, just like the book would be, the video is about the Illuminati, a secret society, the death of Michael Jackson, musicians, etc... Tons of different topics all to do with the Illuminati, which hasn't been confirmed or denied by any high major force. The book is about the Holocaust, which is something that we can confirm happened, giving an opinion that it's fake would be a dumb opinion like giving one on the video without watching it, giving a opinion on how it did happen and what you think about the situation would make sense, reading the book or not because it's in the past and we already know it's happened. But this is the present and the Illuminati issue is still going.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 19:00:12 GMT -5
That is just ridiculous logic. If someone writes a book claiming the Holocaust never happened I would have to read the entire book before responding to any of the claims according to your logic. Doesn't matter that all the claims have been debunked before, you'd still have to read the whole book first? Your comparing past to a present. The video is something someone made, just like the book would be, the video is about the Illuminati, a secret society, the death of Michael Jackson, musicians, etc... Tons of different topics all to do with the Illuminati, which hasn't been confirmed or denied by any high major force. The book is about the Holocaust, which is something that we can confirm happened, giving an opinion that it's fake would be a dumb opinion like giving one on the video without watching it, giving a opinion on how it did happen and what you think about the situation would make sense, reading the book or not because it's in the past and we already know it's happened. But this is the present and the Illuminati issue is still going. Do you really expect anyone of authority to come out and deny the Illuminati exist? That's just plain ignorance.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 19:14:18 GMT -5
Your comparing past to a present. The video is something someone made, just like the book would be, the video is about the Illuminati, a secret society, the death of Michael Jackson, musicians, etc... Tons of different topics all to do with the Illuminati, which hasn't been confirmed or denied by any high major force. The book is about the Holocaust, which is something that we can confirm happened, giving an opinion that it's fake would be a dumb opinion like giving one on the video without watching it, giving a opinion on how it did happen and what you think about the situation would make sense, reading the book or not because it's in the past and we already know it's happened. But this is the present and the Illuminati issue is still going. Do you really expect anyone of authority to come out and deny the Illuminati exist? That's just plain ignorance. If it does exist, only people like us and secret groups and musicians will let it be heard, or someone that wants to just come out with the truth that was part of it all, same with UFO's and other life.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 20:17:10 GMT -5
Do you really expect anyone of authority to come out and deny the Illuminati exist? That's just plain ignorance. If it does exist, only people like us and secret groups and musicians will let it be heard, or someone that wants to just come out with the truth that was part of it all, same with UFO's and other life. And if it doesn't exist only people who are paranoid and/or crazy will come out and claim it's true. And I'm still looking for any artists who have openly said anything about the Illuminati. Nothing in those videos and nothing you've posted convinces me that the author of the video isn't just finding stuff that's not there.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 20:29:40 GMT -5
If it does exist, only people like us and secret groups and musicians will let it be heard, or someone that wants to just come out with the truth that was part of it all, same with UFO's and other life. And if it doesn't exist only people who are paranoid and/or crazy will come out and claim it's true. And I'm still looking for any artists who have openly said anything about the Illuminati. Nothing in those videos and nothing you've posted convinces me that the author of the video isn't just finding stuff that's not there. Michael Jackson's sister and brother has, they've said, " They know who killed him and they know it's not the doctor " & DMX has said it several times. It's in the videos, KRS-One talks about it.. Several artist do. You'll have to just look around youtube, lots of videos of them saying things about the underground societies and what not.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 14, 2010 20:33:20 GMT -5
I saw a video once where Ian Mckellan told Tom Hanks all about the Priory Of Scion and the Knights Of Templar and Jesus Christ's relationship with Mary Magdalene. It was in a book, too, so I'm pretty sure it's true.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 20:47:01 GMT -5
I saw a video once where Ian Mckellan told Tom Hanks all about the Priory Of Scion and the Knights Of Templar and Jesus Christ's relationship with Mary Magdalene. It was in a book, too, so I'm pretty sure it's true. That was in a book. Oskankowski got his facts from the Internet. Anyone can write a BS book about anything. If it's on the Internet it's got to be true. And if a celebrity says it, there's no chance in hell they're wrong.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 20:47:21 GMT -5
I saw a video once where Ian Mckellan told Tom Hanks all about the Priory Of Scion and the Knights Of Templar and Jesus Christ's relationship with Mary Magdalene. It was in a book, too, so I'm pretty sure it's true. The Da Vinci Code is interesting. I don't know much about it, never really have gotten into it, nor have I wanted too. Though I did play this computer game long ago where you had to find things and do research and at the very end you had to put together a phone number and if you did it all right and got the correct number right, you called it and they would tell you that you solved it. I'm pretty sure it was the Da Vinci Code game online or something like that.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 20:53:33 GMT -5
And if it doesn't exist only people who are paranoid and/or crazy will come out and claim it's true. And I'm still looking for any artists who have openly said anything about the Illuminati. Nothing in those videos and nothing you've posted convinces me that the author of the video isn't just finding stuff that's not there. Michael Jackson's sister and brother has, they've said, " They know who killed him and they know it's not the doctor " & DMX has said it several times. It's in the videos, KRS-One talks about it.. Several artist do. You'll have to just look around youtube, lots of videos of them saying things about the underground societies and what not. Why do you believe MJ's brother and sister? Why do you believe DMX or any other artist? Jenny McCarthy says that vaccinations cause autism. Should I believe her too?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 20:54:57 GMT -5
Michael Jackson's sister and brother has, they've said, " They know who killed him and they know it's not the doctor " & DMX has said it several times. It's in the videos, KRS-One talks about it.. Several artist do. You'll have to just look around youtube, lots of videos of them saying things about the underground societies and what not. Why do you believe MJ's brother and sister? Why do you believe DMX or any other artist? Jenny McCarthy says that vaccinations cause autism. Should I believe her too? Already explained why, the points they made stood out and sounded interesting to me and made sense. I guess you could believe her? Don't matter too me, that's what you believe, I could careless. Simple research could prove her wrong or correct and let you have an opinion on it.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 21:03:45 GMT -5
Why do you believe MJ's brother and sister? Why do you believe DMX or any other artist? Jenny McCarthy says that vaccinations cause autism. Should I believe her too? Already explained why, the points they made stood out and sounded interesting to me and made sense. I guess you could believe her? Don't matter too me, that's what you believe, I could careless. Simple research could prove her wrong or correct and let you have an opinion on it. This is my biggest frustration with you. You don't even bother to vet your information. It never crosses your mind to vet anything. You believe them because their points "stood out, sounded interesting and made sense." That's your criteria for believing something. You don't care whether it's true or not.
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