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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 12, 2010 12:16:50 GMT -5
We need "The Illuminati is a work" and "The Illuminati is a shoot" banners.
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Post by HoganBai on Aug 12, 2010 12:22:55 GMT -5
TEAM WORK
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Aug 12, 2010 12:27:17 GMT -5
team work
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 12, 2010 12:31:06 GMT -5
I really don't have to explain anything? I posted videos, people discuss it, simple as that. I didn't create the videos, go complain to the creator, not me. I'm just wanting people's opinions that HAVE watched the PART 1, ONE... of 9.. NINE videos. Which very few have done. If you don't have the flash player, download it. Which I'm sure you do..
SYE, you expect me to post 9 videos? When you can watch Part 1, and then find the Part 2 in the videos that show up after you watch Part 1? No, unlike some people, I'm not going to spam a topic with videos when I can post 1 that has them all in it.
TRW, actually it was related to the topic, It's talking about the Illuminati, discussing Scarface, which is media, and media includes music.
The Champ Is Here, maybe if you watched the full videos, you'd understand where you think it's " bull " but you want answers before watching the rest of the videos, that would be like watching a movie half way through, pausing and wanting answers before watching the rest of the movie.
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Post by HoganBai on Aug 12, 2010 12:34:19 GMT -5
So, I would ask someone who has seen the full movie and say "Hey man, what happened at the end"
And hope that someone would explain
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Post by Mole on Aug 12, 2010 12:38:58 GMT -5
So, I would ask someone who has seen the full movie and say "Hey man, what happened at the end" And hope that someone would explain Oh, I'm writing some amazing notes for these amazing films. I just hope the thread doesn't get locked before I get the chance to post them all.
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Post by HoganBai on Aug 12, 2010 12:40:39 GMT -5
By the way, I relented and watched parts 2 and 3. And it has done nothing. The video makes sweeping generalisations about this Illuminati by saying what they can do, and what they have done, all while giving no proof other then "LOOK AT THE SYMBOLS!" Yeah, so...how do you know these symbols are to do with the occult. It's essentially fan fiction.
The "rain man" situation had a sort of legible argument as to why it is mentioned, but then when it said "Rain Man the movie IS THE DEVIL" is when I laughed and turned it off. This is no proof, it is a video of someone like you saying what they think. How do you know they are placing symbols everywhere, for such a secret society, this film-maker sure does know a LOT about what they've done, all the while not showing his evidence, just by saying "Well, all of these guys have referred to selling their soul, therefore it must be the occult"
Oh wait, he doesn't know. It is his opinion. He's given it a lot of thought, admittedly, however I still think it is the biggest load of bullpoop I've ever seen.
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*EDIT* I think it seems confusing what I've wrote, even though it made sense in my head. Basically my point is that when things like this are said (and these are direct quotes)
"...It's the same reason they place the symbols everywhere" "...for millenia, the Illuminati have known the power of the conscious and unconscious mind..."
That there is no proof that this has been the case. Hence why it seems like a story, to stir up some controversy, and while the story behind it is in depth, there is no proof. The fact Jay Sean dances on a black and white checkerboard floor does not prove anything. Anybody can say "Err, well, this is satanism and so is this, this and this, I know a group was behind it". Well no, you don't, you just come up with this story.
The biggest flaw is that it is meant to be a secret society, and while at points the video says "Well it hides things in plain sight", that doesn't excuse the fact some random guy with a YouTube account seems to know their entire history.
I have no doubt oskanowski will say "Well, it's obvious, these signs have been here for years", but there is still no PROOF of anything. Hence why I make the comparison to religion. Just because there is a story that has been around for a long time doesn't make it truth. So there, I've watched some, but I've had enough.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 12, 2010 12:44:59 GMT -5
By the way, I relented and watched parts 2 and 3. And it has done nothing. The video makes sweeping generalisations about this Illuminati by saying what they can do, and what they have done, all while giving no proof other then "LOOK AT THE SYMBOLS!" Yeah, so...how do you know these symbols are to do with the occult. It's essentially fan fiction. The "rain man" situation had a sort of legible argument as to why it is mentioned, but then when it said "Rain Man the movie IS THE DEVIL" is when I laughed and turned it off. This is no proof, it is a video of someone like you saying what they think. How do you know they are placing symbols everywhere, for such a secret society, this film-maker sure does know a LOT about what they've done, all the while not showing his evidence, just by saying "Well, all of these guys have referred to selling their soul, therefore it must be the occult" Oh wait, he doesn't know. It is his opinion. He's given it a lot of thought, admittedly, however I still think it is the biggest load of bullpoop I've ever seen. Agree or disagree.. That's fine. Atleast you and Mole are watching the videos & having enough common sense to state opinions after watching the videos. Unlike most in this thread who's just spamming without watching any other videos.
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Post by Mole on Aug 12, 2010 14:13:00 GMT -5
Episode 1 Rebuttals- Why many celebrities end up with mental health/drug problems or die? Stressful life, bad self-control.
- What does Rain Man have to do with Illuminati?
- Why does LL Cool J have no issues?
- The reason why Umbrella Ella Ella Ella Ehh is being used so much is that they are paying homage/referencing/making fun of the Rihannha song.
- Rain Man is Dustin Hoffman’s character in Rain Man. Rain Man is a term for someone who “makes it rain” by throwing dollar bills everywhere.
Episode 2: - If they are “automatically filtered out by the brain as insignificant and meaningless” shouldn’t it be considered odd for people to care about them? Also, if the symbolism is clear, then the meanings are not unknown.
- “…in order for secret groups to show their affiliation, they use symbols as a means to communicate.” This sentence doesn’t make sense. What does using symbols to communicate have to do with showing their affiliation?
- “Basic fluid dynamics will tell you that her body and arm movements can not create the liquid formation you just saw.” No shit. It’s called CGI.
- Oh, and who the is Baphomet?
- “So, if something is in the music video, you can be certain it was meant to be there.” Really? There is ZERO chance that someone just thought, “Hey this symmetrical water effect looks neat,”? Really?
- Why is the significance of these symbols not explained?
- As a taunt towards god? “Oh Yeah, God! Check out our black-and-white-checkered floor! Yeah, take that, God!”
- But if Satan’s words and symbolism are “automatically filtered out by the brain as insignificant and meaningless,” then why should God care?
- I can’t wait to see the new video about how the NWO delayed their attack/disaster in 2013.
- How has no one EVER stumbled upon the information of stargates, the significance of ley lines and numerology?
- “There must be real intention if you are going to do something…” This is also why musical artists get their listeners to chant certain words or names…” – If there has to be real intention, then the chanting of those certain words or names is meaningless since the crowd chanting is not chanting them with the same intention as the musicians.
Episode 3- Just to start this off, Ella is just a repetition of the end of Umbrella. Eh is just a noise. Chips, stacks, and make it rain are all references to money.
- He messed up. He says that the second set of definitions are for verb (used without object) but it’s for verb (used with object), meaning something like “raining favors on a person” or “raining confetti onto a parade”
- Hey cool, finally a real citation.
- I’ll be really interested to see how he got the last two definitions of Rain Man “someone who can give you any woman or man you desire” and “someone who can make you rich and famous.”
- Interesting how only the first few videos made reference to making it rain.
- “They do this to symbolize Rain Man.” Really? I thought it was just to show rich they are.
- “Rain Man is a devil.” I’m not too up on my religion, but is Satan the devil?
- I really have nothing to say about this discussion of mind control. It’s just that awesome.
- Yeah, so when Eminem is saying a beer is the devil in “Déjà vu,” it’s not because he has a history of addiction, it’s because it’s literally the devil.
- Actually, in the clip provided, Jay Z does NOT say “he is influenced by Rain Man when he creates songs” and when he talks about “mubl[ing] ‘Amazing numbers’” he is referring to the Dustin Hoffman character.
- Speaking of which, why is that movie not discussed at all? I figured it would be ripe for the picking.
- No, Mr. video, it’s not that interesting, because the Dustin Hoffman character Rain Man mumbled random numbers all the time in the movie.
Episode 4- Oh cool, you’re using subliminal messaging now too. OMG UR THE ILLUIMINATIII
- No, we now don’t know musicians are referring to a devil when they say “Rain Man.” That’s something you talked about without any real proof. You know, like an artist saying, “When I say Rain Man I’m referring to a devil.”
- HEYY! Finally some discussion of the Rain Main movie!
- OF COURSE! The movie’s referring to the Rain Man devil. JESUS ING CHRIST
- “Do you know who owns Hollywood?” Oooh ooh! I know. Is it the liberal jewish media?
- Wait, you didn’t say who owns Hollywood! What the ?
- “Our thoughts create matter”? Um, actually, I’m pretty sure there’s a scientific law that says otherwise.
- Oh, really, “Umbrella” is about the devil? Care to explain? No? AWESOME.
- Lenon, it’s possible that only a few strands are crossing into the triangle because she has that weird haircut with long bangs on only one side. The side that’s going over the line.
- Why isn’t the rest of her hair going to the ground? Because it’s wet and stuck to the back of her head.
- I disagree. It looks anatomically proportionate to me. Her head isn’t as low as you think, Lenon.
- Oh, sweet Christ. So that pose was Rain Man. This is so wonderful.
- Oh, cool, you’ve gained knowledge from researching Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. So does that mean you’re going to cite the references you used to research them so that we can see how you came to these conclusions?
- You’ll be focusing on Eminem later in the series? As opposed to the immense amounts of focus you’ve been putting on him already?
- No, I don’t know “why some movies and music artists refer to 3 AM…”
- Lemme guess, 3 AM is the only time you get to talk to Rain Man.
- Oh hey! Eminem. I wonder if they’ll make a Goo Goo dolls reference here too.
- I’m really expecting one of these to end with a Rick Roll at this point.
Episode 5:- You know, these minute long intros need to stop.
- Oh hey, look who called it! 3 AM is “devil’s hour.”
- Wait, why is he using a movie as the basis of his information? Doesn’t he know that Rain Man owns Hollywood?
- No, I do not wonder why singers wear a crucifix. Yes, I do think it’s because they’re Christian, what with it being the most popular religion in the western world.
- Wait, how does “making people believe 3 AM is a way for devils to mock the holy trinity” “condition some Christians to program themselves to believe that the cross is the best and only way to represent Christianity”?
- No, I wouldn’t wear the symbol of a hammer, but I also think that wearing a Crucifix is weird. I’m also not Christian. So who knows.
- Oh, so it’s a way of mocking god. I swear, if I start feeling blood trickling down my ears, I’m done.
- And how do you know Tupac’s rape case and MJ’s child molestation case were warnings, Mr. Video?
Episode 6- So it took the Illuminati 3 years to punish DMX? They’re not as powerful as you think, then.
- Ok, I really hate how this guy constantly refers to musicians as music artists.
- They use pictures from the mugshot whenever DMX gets arrested, you dipshit.
- Oh yeah, clearly it’s a setup. There was no way that TMZ knew when DMX’s court date was.
- Oh, so DMX is being ready for murder?
- DMX is saying don’t believe everything you read. So I should ignore these videos then. Cool.
- They are a coincidence, since Tupac was 25 and his death date has nothing to do with 25.
- The thing that proves this guy has no idea what the he’s talking about is he is constantly grasping at straws.
Episode 7- Hey cool no more minute long intro
- Who’s Sky Saxon?
- So let’s see how he pulls together some bullcrapsignificance to the number 25.
- If you don’t explain “the significance of numerology and its importance to the Illuminati”, then no one can understand it but you, making it really easy to make up bullshit
- Oh cool, he’s going to use 9/11, because everyone knows that was a conspiracy too.
- Hey look, another grasp for straws! After two “clean” 11’s he has to pull a 111 to get one. Sorry, 111 =/= 11. Also, he said numerology involves the addition of numbers. 1+1=2. 1+1+1=3.
- 1+1+0=2
- No, this alone did make me think this is no coincidence. This makes me think you’re a crackpot. And know, I I don’t have an idea of how important numerology is to the Illuminati because you haven’t explained why and you haven’t explained how the Illuminati was involved with all of those mentions of the number 11.
- And where did you find this information about the “master numbers”? Does no one else find it odd that this guy is claiming to have knowledge that no one else does? Shouldn’t people who believe in the Illuminati be suspicious of this guy since he clearly has been passed down this knowledge?
- No, you haven’t proven that the Illuminati use numerology.
- Um, Farrah Fawcet is high profile.
- Also, everyone knows it happens in 3s with celebrity deaths. What, are you saying that Billy Mays was killed by the Illuminati too? Because that would be hilarious.
- And now why are you multiplying? You said addition only. Also, that’s some ed up math. (7)(7)(7) is 343 not 777. And 7 + 7 +7 is 21.
- Oh cool, now we’re seeing all these references to the number 7. 7-Up IS THE DEVIL!
- Were there other mainstream music videos that showed much more sexually suggestive content in 1990?
- Wow, someone really likes looking way into Michael Jackson videos
- Also, why would the rest of the people on the production team (who are obviously under the influence of the Illuminati) not prevent MJ from making this video this way?
Episode 8- …except black panthers don’t exist. “Wild black panthers in Latin America are black jaguars (Panthera onca), in Asia and Africa black leopards (Panthera pardus), and in North America may be black jaguars or possibly black cougars (Puma concolor) (although this has not been proven to have a black variant), or smaller cats”
- Hey look a 3 year wait! The Illuminati is slow to react.
- Also, why did the Illuminati-controlled Hollywood allow This is It to come out after he died? Wouldn’t they want his reputation to stay tarnished?
- Oh, this is neat. This guy believes that MJ’s Vitiligo is real and it’s because he was infected with it by the Illuminati.
- Wait, it makes more sense that it’s a COINCIDENCE that Vitiligo happens to run in MJ’s family than the fact that is the cause of it?
Episode 9- Oh cool, the minute long annoying intro is back.
- Oh yeah, keep playing the La Toya video. Because, you know, she’s a great source.
- CLEARLY an attempt was made to kill MJ back in 2005. It wasn’t that he was depressed by the trial and unstable, so he wasn’t eating. CLEARLY it was the Illuminati.
- Didn’t Michael Jackson have a large mansion? What’s this about not using it for houses?
Why would an Islamic Michael Jackson with millions of potentially Islamic fans prove to be a threat to the Illuminati?
I’m not going to watch episode 10 since Oska only talked about 9, and I frankly can’t take any more of this shit. For anyone who hasn’t watched it, don’t. It’s as much a waste of your time as you expect without having to watch it. The guy provides very limited (if any) evidence that has ANY (let alone reputable) sources cited. I don’t understand how anyone could actually believe this is true, with there being so much wrong with what is being explained (or rather what is not being explained).
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Post by T R W on Aug 12, 2010 14:23:17 GMT -5
I just watched the first two videos. Wow....... But I did get this gem.... ILLUMINATI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 12, 2010 14:28:51 GMT -5
I just watched the first two videos. Wow....... But I did get this gem.... ILLUMINATI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *goes back to 2005* BREAKING NEWS!! DDP SUES JAY-Z OVER HAND SIGN. DIAMOND CUTTER!
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Aug 12, 2010 14:36:30 GMT -5
Guys, I have proof that The Aquabats are members of the Illuminati, and that the Illuminati were the cause of 9/11. They Formed in 1994. 9-4=5. There are 5 members in the band. Thats leaves us with 9 and 1. They have played a pivotal role in 1 tv show. Yo Gabba Gabba, which MCBC is the creator of. 9, 1 and 1. 9/11.
But wait, theres more. There new album drops on November 9th. 11/9/10. Drop the 10, 11/9. Switch it, 9/11.
This ties in to the death of JFK. He was killed when he was 46. 4+6=10. The year of the realease of the new album.
What say you of the murder of Princess Di? She was 36. switch it around, 63. 6-3 is 3, the number of music videos made by DUN DUN DUN...
The Aquabats.
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Post by Mole on Aug 12, 2010 14:37:16 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS!!! OSKANOWSKI IGNORES VALID ARGUMENTS MADE AGAINST CLAIMS HE RAISES!
And with that, I'm out of this thread.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 12, 2010 14:42:19 GMT -5
I watched the 10 minute video you posted and it's absolutely intellectually- disabled, like most of the crapyou post. You really think "I make it rain on them hoes" has some hidden meaning? Really kid? I refuse to believe that you believe this... It's about throwing money on strippers. That's all. Stop reading into things so much, because Lil Wayne and Fat Joe are not smart enough to write 'hidden messages' in anything. They're talking about throwing money at strippers. That's it. That's all. Numerous of the references of "Rain Man" are CLEARLY about the movie 'Rain Man', played by Dustin Hoffman. One of them is a referenced to "Reign Man," as in the basketball player Shawn Kemp. And other times, they're basically two different phrases as in "Rain, Man." This would be like if I made a rap that went like this: "I'm the illest rapper alive, flow like nobody can, I throw my money in the sky, I make it rain, man." It doesn't "prove" anything. Having the words "rain" and "man" in that sentence together are simply there so that "man" and "can" can rhyme. That's all. In the 10 minute video you posted, I didn't see any of the artists actually saying anything other than just referencing random words, which I have already pointed out is a completely ridiculous way of 'proving' anything. Simply saying words does not prove anything. And no, I'm not going to watch 90 minutes of stupid craplike this. I refuse to waste my time doing so. If you can actually post something where someone brings up a good point, then I'll watch it. Again, people saying words in a song is not going to prove anything. All you've posted is lyrics, so yeah, obviously I'm going to assume that's the only "proof" you have. ..No they can't have a different opinion.. They can't even state an opinion until they know the facts. I know for a fact they haven't watched Part 1 of 9. They just have their mind set to " OMGZ ITS FAKE " because they are small minded. That would be like me saying.. OH WELL I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ACTOR NAMED BRUCE WILLIS.... and not doing a simple search before hand to show that I was wrong. Just like they can't say, OH WELL I BELIEVE ITS BULL, and they haven't even watched the videos to state an opinion. I'm not going to waste my time breaking down videos, when I posted them and they can watch it themselves, they are just being too lazy to do so, I created the topic, they either should watch and talk about the topic, or quit posting spam, and looking like idiots. Okay, kid... First of all, a 90-minute video is not going to "prove" that some secret society exists which is forcing our musicians to put hidden messages in their songs. Secondly, if this society does exist, they're obviously significantly more intelligent than the people who made the video you posted, which clearly has numerous of its own facts wrong (see the 'Rain Man' references). And as such, they would do a better job of covering themselves up than allowing some borderline intellectually- disabled rapper like Lil Wayne spread propaganda about them. Third, you have posted zero proof in the videos you posted. Zero. Nilch. None. Nada. Clearly I did.. Because I knew it was going off topic. Go read the title of this thread, what's it say? Illuminati. It don't say Titanic conspiracy. LMFAO. This reminds me of when someone posted "The Obama Deception" and you responded by posting a bunch of blatantly off-topic bullcrapabout the government and NASA covering things about "Niburu." Then why I called you out on it, you made some assinnine claim that they are somehow related, when even Alex Jones himself has articles posted on his website about how preposterous the "Niburu" theory is. Your posts about Niburu were literally no less off-topic than this stupid video about the Titanic. BREAKING NEWS!!! OSKANOWSKI IGNORES VALID ARGUMENTS MADE AGAINST CLAIMS HE RAISES! And with that, I'm out of this thread. I love you. LMAO.
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Post by KMIS™ on Aug 12, 2010 15:01:32 GMT -5
If they kill singers who can reach millions with their songs, why not kill some college dork with a Mac uploading to YouTube for millions to watch and see?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 12, 2010 15:08:32 GMT -5
I watched the 10 minute video you posted and it's absolutely intellectually- disabled, like most of the poop you post. You really think "I make it rain on them hoes" has some hidden meaning? Really kid? I refuse to believe that you believe this... It's about throwing money on strippers. That's all. Stop reading into things so much, because Lil Wayne and Fat Joe are not smart enough to write 'hidden messages' in anything. They're talking about throwing money at strippers. That's it. That's all. Numerous of the references of "Rain Man" are CLEARLY about the movie 'Rain Man', played by Dustin Hoffman. One of them is a referenced to "Reign Man," as in the basketball player Shawn Kemp. And other times, they're basically two different phrases as in "Rain, Man." This would be like if I made a rap that went like this: "I'm the illest rapper alive, flow like nobody can, I throw my money in the sky, I make it rain, man." It doesn't "prove" anything. Having the words "rain" and "man" in that sentence together are simply there so that "man" and "can" can rhyme. That's all. In the 10 minute video you posted, I didn't see any of the artists actually saying anything other than just referencing random words, which I have already pointed out is a completely ridiculous way of 'proving' anything. Simply saying words does not prove anything. And no, I'm not going to watch 90 minutes of stupid poop like this. I refuse to waste my time doing so. If you can actually post something where someone brings up a good point, then I'll watch it. Again, people saying words in a song is not going to prove anything. All you've posted is lyrics, so yeah, obviously I'm going to assume that's the only "proof" you have. ..No they can't have a different opinion.. They can't even state an opinion until they know the facts. I know for a fact they haven't watched Part 1 of 9. They just have their mind set to " OMGZ ITS FAKE " because they are small minded. That would be like me saying.. OH WELL I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ACTOR NAMED BRUCE WILLIS.... and not doing a simple search before hand to show that I was wrong. Just like they can't say, OH WELL I BELIEVE ITS BULL, and they haven't even watched the videos to state an opinion. I'm not going to waste my time breaking down videos, when I posted them and they can watch it themselves, they are just being too lazy to do so, I created the topic, they either should watch and talk about the topic, or quit posting spam, and looking like idiots. Okay, kid... First of all, a 90-minute video is not going to "prove" that some secret society exists which is forcing our musicians to put hidden messages in their songs. Secondly, if this society does exist, they're obviously significantly more intelligent than the people who made the video you posted, which clearly has numerous of its own facts wrong (see the 'Rain Man' references). And as such, they would do a better job of covering themselves up than allowing some borderline intellectually- disabled rapper like Lil Wayne spread propaganda about them. Third, you have posted zero proof in the videos you posted. Zero. Nilch. None. Nada. LMFAO. This reminds me of when someone posted "The Obama Deception" and you responded by posting a bunch of blatantly off-topic bullpoop about the government and NASA covering things about "Niburu." Then why I called you out on it, you made some assinnine claim that they are somehow related, when even Alex Jones himself has articles posted on his website about how preposterous the "Niburu" theory is. Your posts about Niburu were literally no less off-topic than this stupid video about the Titanic. BREAKING NEWS!!! OSKANOWSKI IGNORES VALID ARGUMENTS MADE AGAINST CLAIMS HE RAISES! And with that, I'm out of this thread. I love you. LMAO. You do understand I didn't create the videos..
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 12, 2010 15:12:08 GMT -5
You do understand I didn't create the videos.. Did I say somewhere that you did...?
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Post by extreme on Aug 12, 2010 15:14:55 GMT -5
really?
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 12, 2010 15:24:58 GMT -5
You do understand I didn't create the videos.. Did I say somewhere that you did...? Did I say that I believe the words " I make it rain on them hoes" has some hidden meaning?
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 12, 2010 15:27:13 GMT -5
"If you had the power to protect yourself, than you would not need something more powerful than you to provide you with protection."
Look, I know people make spelling errors... But come on. If you're going to try to "inform" people, at least use correct grammar.
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